ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[OIO]

Are you official representative of CPC?

official statement of any Chinese.

 

[Aryan0395]

 

[Dubious]

only you can troll?
you are intervening Chinese internal affairs, good or bad is not your business, Islam is no special in China.

1) Where do you see me trolling?

I have mentioned multiple times QUESTIONING is not trolling...
Questioning is part of the discussion process if you cant reply, dont be part of the discussion coz clearly you cant answer nor can you keep your cool!

you are intervening Chinese internal affairs, good or bad is not your business, Islam is no special in China.

THIS is not a Chinese forum, nor us discussing about China is effecting China in any ways...

China is discussed by millions all over the world, with the behaviour you are showing, it kind of proves to AT LEAST THE PDF MEMBERS that Chinese members are INCAPABLE of discussing anything with!

So kindly leave if you cant keep your cool!

This report is objective, but no religious actives in public is law, it's not for Islam only.

And such a law is against BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS!

THAT is what the "report" is highlighting! Maybe in China the Chinese dont know what basic rights of a human means!

All I did is normal reaction of what you have done.

NORMAL? Then I suggest you seek professional help if that is normal...

However, if it is normal in China, I suggest you people stop replying, trolling and derailing PDF threads...THANK YOU!

"Broadly speaking, it is understood that the Chinese constitution is very easily misinterpreted. So Muslims should not apply their religion well in the public space. So they are not allowed to wear headscarves or prayers in public spaces. If found, (they will be) put in radical groups. Then put in "The vocation camp, (being) considered not nationalist," Junaidi said.

THIS is abuse of human rights!

And IF these people are called terrorists JUST because they choose to have a religion then China is wrong on all accounts!

 

[Aryan0395]

Maybe in China the Chinese dont know what basic rights of a human means!

Maybe?
Like credit score of individuals in all economies, China went one step ahead and introduced Social score.
Sorry going off topic but replying to the human right question u had.
continue

 

[Dubious]

"We hope that the Chinese government will give Muslims the opportunity to perform ritual worship on the sidelines of their training. Participants are also entitled to Muslim food. Secondly, the CIA (China Islamic Association) (should be) included in the process of issuing fatwas about radicalism, religious viewpoints. ask and hope that the Chinese Government does not generalize Muslims who carry out worship related to radicalism, "Junaidi said.

UNFORTUNATELY the Chinese govt is!

 

[OIO]

1) Where do you see me trolling?

I have mentioned multiple times QUESTIONING is not trolling...
Questioning is part of the discussion process if you cant reply, dont be part of the discussion coz clearly you cant answer nor can you keep your cool!


THIS is not a Chinese forum, nor us discussing about China is effecting China in any ways...

China is discussed by millions all over the world, with the behaviour you are showing, it kind of proves to AT LEAST THE PDF MEMBERS that Chinese members are INCAPABLE of discussing anything with!

So kindly leave if you cant keep your cool!

So could you tell me why Christian women want to flee Pakistan via marriage? If they are persecuted?

 

[Dubious]

free to pray

Yes in their homes as the Chinese here already admitted and the "Western reports" declare...that the "concentration camps" are considered public spaces so as long as they are in these camps they cant pray...THAT IS 5 daily prayers missed per day in that camp!

And they can be in such a camp for as little as displaying religious practices in public spaces! Just for small issues they are called radicalized and terrorists!

Now we even object about Asia bibi and others who have been falsely accused of blasphemy for personal gains...How is this not false accusations and why cant we voice out?


China maybe our friend and help us in many ways...but they are harming 5x daily prayers of an individual coz of their skewed interpretation of their own laws!

So could you tell me why Christian women want to flee Pakistan via marriage? If they are persecuted?

How is it related to this thread?
DO they want to or are the deceived into doing so? ALL reports suggest Chinese pimps are lying and "marrying" these ladies even your own govt admitted that it is a misdoing!

 

[beijingwalker]

What I don’t understand is why chinese members think they can come here and insult our religion, culture, and identity without repercussions?

For a country with a fast growing economy, once in a lifetime opportunity of making alliances, and a responsible government, it is sad to see such uncivilized and frankly barbaric views among members here about Muslims, Turks, Arabs, Islam, and Pakistanis.

It is shameful.

All Chinese come to this forum are or were very pro Pakistan, we have no reason to attack Pakistan for anything, no Chinese comes to this forum with the intention of picking fight against Pakistan, as for some recent hostility between some posters from both sides against each other, we all know how it started, it was not caused by Chinese posters accusing Pakistan about Pakistani internal affairs, even after Chinese facilities were regularly attacked and some Chinese nationals were kidnapped and killed in Pakistan, Chinese government and posters here were all on the Pakistan's side and supported Pakistan at those difficult times.

 

[Dubious]

only you can troll?
you are intervening Chinese internal affairs, good or bad is not your business, Islam is no special in China.

and your repeated trolling has earned you a your last strike!

Congratulations!

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Spot on....my intention is not to troll otherwise I would be doing that...


I'm here just to ask the questions that need to be asked and reveal the truth that should be....not spread half truths and lies.



Look in my history, you'll find all that you need to find. If you're accusing me then go on. I have been accused of being a Indian, a CIA agent, a American paid stooge and much more.

I'll add your accusations to the list too.



Sadly....yes, anyone that acts like a Muslim or/& talks like a Muslim is a existential threat to the CPC/Chinese govt.....they need (or think they need) a "iron hand" over Xinjiang.

If you didn't know this already, the Chinese govt. has been actively importing Han Chinese to Xinjiang to dilute the Uyghur/other Muslim minority population. That itself signifies mal intent.

As others have said, the Chinese do not wish to target and eradicate Muslims, like many other nations do wish they could. China wishes to eradicate separatism and diminish the footprint of ALL religions equally in line with its socialist policy. We can all see the problems that the unchecked rise in Christian fundamentalism is having in Hong Kong. It is no surprise that separatism and singing hallelujah go hand in hand for these pseudo-Christians. Note how even non-Christians jumped on the hallelujah bandwagon during the protests. It is clearly a threat and even a tactic to use religion to disguise separatism in China, hence they have ways to counter this.

In Pak we deal with extremists in ways that have some similarities to what the Chinese do, some differences, as objectives and threats are slightly different.

If China's approach produces a population of loyal, hard-working citizens who can privately retain their religious and cultural identity, then people should be able to sleep easy and give these cyclical arguments a rest already. Any referencing of western propaganda is hypocritical and a waste of time as the same propaganda sources damage Pakistan and Muslims even more than they damage China.

All Chinese come to this forum are or were very pro Pakistan, we have no reason to attack Pakistan for anything, no Chinese comes to this forum with the intention of picking fight against Pakistan, as for some recent hostility between some posters from both sides against each other, we all know how it was started, it was not caused by Chinese poster accusing Pakistan about Pakistani internal affairs, even after Chinese facilities were regularly attacked and some Chinese nationals were kidnapped and killed, Chinese government and posters here were all on the Pakistan's side and supported Pakistan at those difficult times.

All of Pak - including those in Pak and expats - has the utmost respect for China's many different modes of support for the Pakistani nation, regardless of a few pdf members stubborn attitudes. And yes, we should cooperate in some fields of counterterrorism too as some of China's methods are clearly successful.

 

[war&peace]

Yes in their homes as the Chinese here already admitted and the "Western reports" declare...that the "concentration camps" are considered public spaces so as long as they are in these camps they cant pray...THAT IS 5 daily prayers missed per day in that camp!

And they can be in such a camp for as little as displaying religious practices in public spaces! Just for small issues they are called radicalized and terrorists!

Now we even object about Asia bibi and others who have been falsely accused of blasphemy for personal gains...How is this not false accusations and why cant we voice out?


China maybe our friend and help us in many ways...but they are harming 5x daily prayers of an individual coz of their skewed interpretation of their own laws!

It is complicated and we need to work together and sort it out amicably. Not by pointing fingers.

 

[Dubious]

It is complicated and we need to work together and sort it out amicably. Not by pointing fingers.

Well then tell the Chinese members to behave! Unkay baap ka forum nai hai!

 

[war&peace]

Well then tell the Chinese members to behave! Unkay baap ka forum nai hai!

As if they accept what I tell them

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

All Chinese come to this forum are or were very pro Pakistan

What changed? Some people asking you tough questions?

some Chinese nationals were kidnapped and killed in Pakistan

By India. Don't leave that out.

Chinese government and posters here were all on the Pakistan's side and supported Pakistan at those difficult times.

Again, what changed?

 

[beijingwalker]

What changed? Some people asking you tough questions?

Xinjiang disputes did change many Chinese posters views about Pakistan, of course the other way around is also true.