ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Dubious]

Well, I have to thank you about this clarification. Because the news that I read some time ago was only about she changed her religion, and she got a death sentence.

huh? No she was accused of some blasphemous action...I am not even sure what it was...burning the Quran or something...

For someone who live in Indonesia, who respect more than one religion, my first reaction was "What the hell?" In disbelieve. But then I think Pakistan has their own value and law. So I should respect them; and should not question them no matter what.

Well yes we have our laws but we do question them afterall we are a democratic nation not a dictatorship!

Due to the "questioning" process she was released and her case was dropped! She was allowed to go to Canada without any troubles...Canada sponsored her "to save her" despite she being released with a clean slate (as opposed to our laws)....

 

[war&peace]

Best to ignore. Just like Indian Muslims aren't our concern, neither are they.

Knowing the truth and facts is important. Rest we are not interfering but we should know especially about something that is being shared here on daily basis.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Nice 1 !

This is the way forward, not forcing women in those horrible full black arab thing like ISIS and Taliban minded savages.

Very cool, she should learn some Chinese dances, and K-pop and J-pop etc stuff too.

This frees and empowers women, encourages integration and keeps the vulnerable populations away from dangerous terrorist ideologies like jihad etc

I think women in general should avoid advice from Indians on empowerment.

No praying in public schools is true, I m pretty sure about that cause that's the law from day one of PRC, it's nothing new and I guess the whole world knows that.

I don't think it's unreasonable as you treat all religions the same. But my honest 2 cents worth of advice to China is that you should actually be far more proactive against Christian fundamentalists. I don't know if you noticed but they were all singing hallelujah in Hong Kong recently - there is your real problem right there - western media was jumping up and down with glee over this sing along, almost as much of a love in as they had with the umbrella brigade. This is how Europe and USA infiltrate, on the back of fundamentalist xtians. Next thing you know, they will be singing their way to independence and a US air base. Your best approach with the uighurs is the tartar/chechnyan model where the Russians and Slavic nations traded off a degree of local governance and preservation of culture and religion, in exchange for a fiercely loyal Muslim population.

 

[Dubious]

We need something like this in Kashmir in India.

Pakistan could also do something similar for people who might have sympathies for the Taliban etc.

Should be implimented nation wide in Afghanistan.

We already have something similar and the people are put in based on their affiliation not on their background/ ethnicity

Kindly deal with india only and dont drag Pakistan into everything! Keep the thread clean and to the topic!

We need something like this in Kashmir in India

What Kashmir needs is freedom from indian army oppression! Now quit littering this thread with your insecurities!

No praying in public schools is true, I m pretty sure about that cause that's the law from day one of PRC, it's nothing new and I guess the whole world knows that.

So some of the reports were true! Thank you for admitting it finally!

You see the world sees that as oppression to practice religion and is the type of oppression that is being hyped and others are talking about!

Irrespective of your laws, it is oppression nonetheless

 

[beijingwalker]

Where are the white stripes?

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You think all the prison wear the same uniform? which education centers video( already tons of them by different sources) do you see them wear those blue uniform?

So some of the reports were true! Thank you for admitting it finally!

You see the world sees that as oppression to practice religion and is the type of oppression that is being hyped and others are talking about!

Irrespective of your laws, it is oppression nonetheless

We never said the we allow worship in public schools, so what do you mean by " admit"? It's common sense that Chinese schools don't have a time and place to pray for religions, be them Christianity, Buddism or Islam. Now you suddenly start to talk about something that's been around in China for 70 years.

 

[beijingwalker]

"Concentration camp" car mechanic training

"Concentration camp" infant nursing training

"Concentration camp" massage training

 

[Goku]

This concentration camp bullshit is peddled by the west , there might be tough on measures on extremists but not on said "3million" . Chinese are doing good work

 

[beijingwalker]

"Concentration camp" electrician training

"Concentration camp" dance training, with Xinjiang's booming tourism, dancers working in local hotels , restaurants fairs and guest houses make good money comparing to other occupations.

Poverty mostly is caused by lack of knowledge, skills and business awareness, the Chinese government always believes the best and most effective way to fight terrorism is to eliminate poverty and get people rich, so China always focuses on teaching people how to make a good life for themselves and their families.

 

[Itachi]

Some of them are and some of them not, I guess, Some of them may committed minor offences so for them they have no choice, others may just want to sign up to learn a trade. By the way, this kind of correctional center are very common in US too.

Satellite View of ODRC - Northeast Ohio Correctional Center (NEOCC) - CoreCivic

lol this literally looks like a concentration camp or jail

@war&peace @313ghazi @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

Half the videos posted here don't even look real...like Uyghurs dancing lol?? wtf?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We never said the we allow worship in public schools, so what do you mean by " admit"? It's common sense that Chinese schools don't have a time and place to pray for religions, be them Christianity, Buddism or Islam. Now you suddenly start to talk about something that's been around in China for 70 years.

Muslims are required by their faith to pray five times daily, regardless of the reasons. In our faith, the one who does not pray is no longer a Muslim. It is a covenant with Allah swt and the first thing asked on the Day of Judgement.

Same thing with Hijab, it is a requirement, not an electable ritual.

It is not allowed to serve any state, or even parents, which keep one away from practicing Islamic obligations (five pillars, salat, fasting, hijab, halal food, and reading Quran.)

In Islam, loyalty to Allah swt and Prophet saws comes before any other.

If such a state banned Islamic obligations, it is not only allowed to rebel against such a state, but a praiseworthy action.

Perhaps China should revisit this policy if it wants to keep a Muslim-majority province as part of China, otherwise allow them the rights to practice their faith in an independent nation.

 

[beijingwalker]

Muslims are required by their faith to pray five times daily, regardless of the reasons. In our faith, the one who does not pray is no longer a Muslim. It is a covenant with Allah swt and the first thing asked on the Day of Judgement.

Same thing with Hijab, it is a requirement, not an electable ritual.

It is not allowed to serve any state, or even parents, which keep one away from practicing Islamic obligations (five pillars, salat, fasting, hijab, halal food, and reading Quran.)

In Islam, loyalty to Allah swt and Prophet saws comes before any other.

If such a state banned Islamic obligations, it is not only allowed to rebel against such a state, but a praiseworthy action.

Perhaps China should revisit this policy if it wants to keep a Muslim-majority province as part of China, otherwise allow them the rights to practice their faith in an independent nation.

No religious activities in public schools, it doesn't matter what religions, they are all equal. Do western countries or Pakistan allow Christians or Buddist students to pray in the middle of class? I don't know, even they do, it doesn't mean we have to follow, I guess that would cause conflicts between different religions, China also has a large Christian and Buddist popultion, bigger than Muslim groups in number, we don't want them to go for each other's throats, Rohingya style conflicts can never happen in China.

 

[OIO]

Muslims are required by their faith to pray five times daily, regardless of the reasons. In our faith, the one who does not pray is no longer a Muslim. It is a covenant with Allah swt and the first thing asked on the Day of Judgement.

Same thing with Hijab, it is a requirement, not an electable ritual.

It is not allowed to serve any state, or even parents, which keep one away from practicing Islamic obligations (five pillars, salat, fasting, hijab, halal food, and reading Quran.)

In Islam, loyalty to Allah swt and Prophet saws comes before any other.

If such a state banned Islamic obligations, it is not only allowed to rebel against such a state, but a praiseworthy action.

Perhaps China should revisit this policy if it wants to keep a Muslim-majority province as part of China, otherwise allow them the rights to practice their faith in an independent nation.

all religions in China are under the Chinese law, all Chinese Muslims are Chinese first.

 

[war&peace]

No religious activities in public schools, it doesn't matter what religions, they are all equal. Do western countries or Pakistan allow Christians or Buddist students to pray in the middle of class? I don't know, even they do, it doesn't mean we have to follow, I guess that would cause conflicts between different religions, China also has a large Christian and Buddist popultion, bigger than Muslim groups in number, we don't want them to go for each other's throats, Rohingya style conflicts can never happen in China.

They are being kept imprisoned. They are not allowed to go home so how can you say it is a school? It is a jail. Which school has classes 24x7? All the schools at max have 5-6 hrs of classes and even those are not continuous and are dotted with breaks. Students are free to do whatever they want during the breaks and after the classes.
When I was studying, I used to pray in one of the breaks that fell on or around the time of the prayer and for that I didn't need anyone's permission. Same is true when I'm doing the business.

 

[Itachi]

No religious activities in public schools, it doesn't matter what religions, they are all equal. Do western countries or Pakistan allow Christians or Buddist students to pray in the middle of class?

They do, plus it's not "in the middle of the class". Islamic prayer timing are vast, like you have a couple of hours to do the prayers so you can finish them before or after class. Before work, at work (during lunch time) and after work.


It's called "Freedom of Religion"....no matter how much economic prosperity you have, if you don't provide your people the freedoms they require, it won't last long.

They are being kept imprisoned. They are not allowed to go home so how can you say it is a school? It is a jail. Which school has classes 24x7? All the schools at max have 5-6 hrs of classes and even those are not continuous and are dotted with breaks. Students are free to do whatever they want during the breaks and after the classes.
When I was studying, I used to pray in one of the breaks that fell on or around the time of the prayer and for that I didn't need anyone's permission. Same is true when I'm doing the business.

Obviously they won't show the parts where these "students" are being made to chant the Chinese national anthem or sing praises to Xi Jinping or being forced to eat pork or being indoctrinated to hate their culture and accept mainstream culture.

There were stories of these "students" being encouraged to sell out their parents by reporting any "bad behavior" of their parents to their "teachers". There are countless other stories out there too, each with the same horrific pattern.

 

[OIO]

They do, plus it's not "in the middle of the class". Islamic prayer timing are vast, like you have a couple of hours to do the prayers so you can finish them before or after class. Before work, at work (during lunch time) and after work.


It's called "Freedom of Religion"....no matter how much economic prosperity you have, if you don't provide your people the freedoms they require, it won't last long.

you don't want to obey the Chinese law but want the law to protect your right of religion.