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Patch on this guys uniform is of poor quality and poorly sewed. And the uniform doesn't fit his body.

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Just too many people involved to keep things hushed up forever. People are starting to talk.


  • A former detective detailed the torture tactics used on ethnic Uyghurs in China's Xinjiang region.
  • Among them: Electrocutions, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, starvation, and sexual abuse, he said.
  • The Biden administration this year called China's actions "genocide and crimes against humanity."

A Chinese former detective who worked in the Xinjiang region told CNN in an interview published Tuesday about some of the torture tactics he and other detectives used on individuals detained in the Xinjiang region.

The torture tactics against ethnic Uyghurs included shackling detainees to a chair designed to immobilize them called the "tiger chair," hanging them from the ceiling, electrocutions, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, starvation, and sexual violence, he told the news organization.

The man was only identified by CNN as Jiang over fears the Chinese government would retaliate against his family still living in China, according to the outlet. The interview was conducted in Europe where Jiang currently lives in exile, CNN reported.

Jiang said he had been deployed to several areas of Xinjiang about "three or four" times while he was a detective as part of China's "Strike Hard" campaign that targeted ethnic minorities, according to CNN. He was deployed to the region several times over the course of several years, per the CNN report.

Every detainee was beaten during the interrogation process, he said, including children as young as 14, he told CNN.

"Kick them, beat them (until they're) bruised and swollen," he said. "Until they kneel on the floor crying."

In April, the human-rights organization Human Rights Watch released a 53-page report on China, detailing incarceration, torture, disappearances, and cultural erasure of ethnic Uyghurs in Xinjiang, as Insider previously reported. The Biden administration a month earlier imposed sanctions on the Chinese government for what it called "genocide and crimes against humanity in Xinjiang."

"Everyone uses different methods. Some even use a wrecking bar or iron chains with locks," Jiang told CNN. "Police would step on the suspect's face and tell him to confess."

He said he believed none of the people were guilty of the terrorism-related offenses they were accused of by the Chinese government.

"They are ordinary people," he told CNN.

But the torture ended only after the people confessed, he said. Then, they were transferred to prisons or internment camps, he told CNN. The Chinese police were given quotas on how many Uyghurs to detain, he said.

Sometimes, police would ask local leaders to call entire communities together only for them all to be arrested in large groups, according to CNN. Around 900,000 Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities were detained in one year, he said.

"It's all planned, and it has a system," Jiang said. "Everyone needs to hit a target."

If a person refused to comply, the detectives put a gun to their head and threatened to kill them, the man told CNN. He said the detectives would download the data from the detainee's phones and computers after arresting them.

"If you want people to confess, you use the electric baton with two sharp tips on top," Jiang said. "We would tie two electrical wires on the tips and set the wires on their genitals while the person is tied up."

Some detectives and prison guards even enjoyed the torture tactics, he said. Jiang said he quickly became "disillusioned" with the job, according to CNN.

Some guards and detectives even directed the detainees to sexually abuse other detainees, he said.

Abduweli Ayup, a 48-year-old Uyghur scholar from Xinjiang told CNN he was gang-raped by over a dozen other inmates after multiple guards directed them to do it. Eventually, he said he was freed from the facility in November 2014 after he was forced to confess to a crime of "illegal fundraising," according to the CNN report.

"The agony and the suffering we had (in the camp) will never vanish, will never leave our mind," 45-year-old Omir Bekali told CNN.

Bekali said police attempted to get him to admit to terrorism for crimes while he was detained and tortured four days and nights while on a business trip to the region in 2017. He said he was kept in internment camps for the following eight months.

"When they put the chains on my legs the first time, I understood immediately I am coming to hell," he told CNN.

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Oh shut up, I’m a Muslim and I don’t buy into this garage pumped out by Western media. The world isn’t that old we all forgot about the trained Kuwaiti Ambassador daughter and her drama of Iraqis soldiers taking babies out of incubators, and throwing them out the window. Lol.
 
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Could be true, but what doesn’t make sense is why would China allow a person who works in these top secret facilities to move out of China?

Since these are super secret, there couldn‘t be many officers working there that China couldn‘t find out, especially one that‘s gone - that surely narrows it down to the point where his reasoning of not releasing evidence due to family is moot.
 
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Just too many people involved to keep things hushed up forever. People are starting to talk.


  • A former detective detailed the torture tactics used on ethnic Uyghurs in China's Xinjiang region.
  • Among them: Electrocutions, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, starvation, and sexual abuse, he said.
  • The Biden administration this year called China's actions "genocide and crimes against humanity."

A Chinese former detective who worked in the Xinjiang region told CNN in an interview published Tuesday about some of the torture tactics he and other detectives used on individuals detained in the Xinjiang region.

The torture tactics against ethnic Uyghurs included shackling detainees to a chair designed to immobilize them called the "tiger chair," hanging them from the ceiling, electrocutions, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, starvation, and sexual violence, he told the news organization.

The man was only identified by CNN as Jiang over fears the Chinese government would retaliate against his family still living in China, according to the outlet. The interview was conducted in Europe where Jiang currently lives in exile, CNN reported.

Jiang said he had been deployed to several areas of Xinjiang about "three or four" times while he was a detective as part of China's "Strike Hard" campaign that targeted ethnic minorities, according to CNN. He was deployed to the region several times over the course of several years, per the CNN report.

Every detainee was beaten during the interrogation process, he said, including children as young as 14, he told CNN.

"Kick them, beat them (until they're) bruised and swollen," he said. "Until they kneel on the floor crying."

In April, the human-rights organization Human Rights Watch released a 53-page report on China, detailing incarceration, torture, disappearances, and cultural erasure of ethnic Uyghurs in Xinjiang, as Insider previously reported. The Biden administration a month earlier imposed sanctions on the Chinese government for what it called "genocide and crimes against humanity in Xinjiang."

"Everyone uses different methods. Some even use a wrecking bar or iron chains with locks," Jiang told CNN. "Police would step on the suspect's face and tell him to confess."

He said he believed none of the people were guilty of the terrorism-related offenses they were accused of by the Chinese government.

"They are ordinary people," he told CNN.

But the torture ended only after the people confessed, he said. Then, they were transferred to prisons or internment camps, he told CNN. The Chinese police were given quotas on how many Uyghurs to detain, he said.

Sometimes, police would ask local leaders to call entire communities together only for them all to be arrested in large groups, according to CNN. Around 900,000 Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities were detained in one year, he said.

"It's all planned, and it has a system," Jiang said. "Everyone needs to hit a target."

If a person refused to comply, the detectives put a gun to their head and threatened to kill them, the man told CNN. He said the detectives would download the data from the detainee's phones and computers after arresting them.

"If you want people to confess, you use the electric baton with two sharp tips on top," Jiang said. "We would tie two electrical wires on the tips and set the wires on their genitals while the person is tied up."

Some detectives and prison guards even enjoyed the torture tactics, he said. Jiang said he quickly became "disillusioned" with the job, according to CNN.

Some guards and detectives even directed the detainees to sexually abuse other detainees, he said.

Abduweli Ayup, a 48-year-old Uyghur scholar from Xinjiang told CNN he was gang-raped by over a dozen other inmates after multiple guards directed them to do it. Eventually, he said he was freed from the facility in November 2014 after he was forced to confess to a crime of "illegal fundraising," according to the CNN report.

"The agony and the suffering we had (in the camp) will never vanish, will never leave our mind," 45-year-old Omir Bekali told CNN.

Bekali said police attempted to get him to admit to terrorism for crimes while he was detained and tortured four days and nights while on a business trip to the region in 2017. He said he was kept in internment camps for the following eight months.

"When they put the chains on my legs the first time, I understood immediately I am coming to hell," he told CNN.


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So things that the US has been doing at Guantanamo Bay, right?
 
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Oh shut up, I’m a Muslim and I don’t buy into this garage pumped out by Western media. The world isn’t that old we all forgot about the trained Kuwaiti Ambassador daughter and her drama of Iraqis soldiers taking babies out of incubators, and throwing them out the window. Lol.
I see a lot of tears for the Palestinians, for the Syrians, for the Kashmiris, for the Bosnians, for the muslims in CAR, for Rohingas (Nobel Peace price anyone) for the muslims in Iraq and even for journalists quartered and stuffed in bags. I see the great arc of human rights organizations and Western political governments speak about these atrocities and take action. Nope. Just a few crocodile tears for some this stuff and then silence. Probably almost similar to how they might have processed enslaving black people, killing indigenous in North America, and South America and Australia. And then centuries later after all consumed and fattened (on the dead bones of entire cultures and civilizations), come out with a few movies like "Dances With Wolves" and profess how sad we white people are in killing the colored and that yes there must have been some who stood up, because our hearts are white as snow. BULLSHIT!!!!
 
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I see a lot of tears for the Palestinians, for the Syrians, for the Kashmiris, for the Bosnians, for the muslims in CAR, for Rohingas (Nobel Peace price anyone) for the muslims in Iraq and even for journalists quartered and stuffed in bags. I see the great arc of human rights organizations and Western political governments speak about these atrocities and take action. Nope. Just a few crocodile tears for some this stuff and then silence. Probably almost similar to how they might have processed enslaving black people, killing indigenous in North America, and South America and Australia. And then centuries later after all consumed and fattened (on the dead bones of entire cultures and civilizations), come out with a few movies like "Dances With Wolves" and profess how sad we white people are in killing the colored and that yes there must have been some who stood up, because our hearts are white as snow. BULLSHIT!!!!

It’s an attempt to white wash their crimes or make it look less violent than it actually was. That is the problem with media at the scale we have now, that opinions can change as the day goes from sunrise to sunset. The critical analysis ability of the coming generation to absorb and analyze data is almost non existent to be honest. The ability of future generation is now limited to 140 characters.
 
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These are all tactics to make the ppl forget what the US and western animals did in abu ghureb and in bagram and guantanamo bay. The stories are horrific and shows their true face. They are trying to prevent ICC proceedings for war crimes in Afghanistan. The Australians killed children in Afghanistan, just for fun.
 
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Oh shut up, I’m a Muslim and I don’t buy into this garage pumped out by Western media.

That's fine. It won't be the first time in world history people dismissed serious warning signs only to find out the harsh truth decades later and start feeling stupid for ignoring things. The most important thing is to at least get the word out so the people who aren’t the type to quickly dismiss things can do some fact finding themselves. That doesn’t obviously apply to you.
 
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Want to know what a safe and peacefully beautiful life is and how people enjoy it, take a night walk in today's Kashgar old town. How many American cities which people can safely leisurely take a late night walk in old quarters alleys?

 
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Want to know what a peacefully beautiful life is and how people enjoy it, take a walk in today's Kashgar old town


It is funny how the Western world collectively keeps begging Pakistan to recognise so-called Uyghur oppression/genocide/massacre. Is it a coincidence? There is not a day where Jewish, Indian and Western media collectively keep reminding 200+ million Pakistanis how wicked they are for not condemning China. It goes to show how fvcked up these people are and how far their tentacles go once they unite against their adversaries. They lie in sync and their media tactics are very sophisticated. Of course Pakistani and Chinese authorities are absolutely cognizant of this fact.

It is a miracle that the majority in a country like Pakistan haven't fallen for this BS. I must give credit to the Pakistani people. It is not easy to differentiate between a web of lies and facts nowadays.
 
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