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The sterilization program is happening, our Chinese Indonesian friend @Reashot Xigwin who can read Mandarin has found the China government document talking about the program
That shill didnt find crap

Hes just parotting a precooked U.S. state propaganda mouthpiece lie aggressively spread by U.S. shills and U.S. regime run media mouthpices, inventend by some evangelical bible thumbing Nazi apologist called Adrian Zenz who hates Muslims as much as Chinese and who is paid by the U.S. regime and U.S. military to lie about China for at least a decade.
Its the same fake researcher who made dumb lies about China "paying" Muslims to pray in front of tourists and China "forcing" Muslims and teens to celebrate Eid, lied about Uighur messages being hidden in shoes actually Made in Vietnam and used Google Translate to invent another "Chinese data exposing China" story of forced labour based on a completely false translations of laudable Chinese proverbs,

Hes simply lying while waving completely uncontrovesial Chinese data around that you can find in public healthcare data all over the world including the U.S.A. who pays these liars in first place. The document proves absolutely nothing about this sterilization program story the U.S. regime invented which is about forced sterilization targeting minorites. to produce more fake reasons to cyncically accuse a country rivaling the U.S.A of genocide. The usual attrocity propaganda program by the biggest warcriminal and most genocidal country in history, the U.S.A..

The only thing the public data proves is that China has a working healthcare system and that it is bringing he exact same medical standards and services as all more developed Chinese regions already have also to Xinjiang. The only reason how these liars even could spin data for medical procedures completely normal in the country funding these lies itself and turn them into yet another big "Chinese attrocity" lie to discredit the Chinese government and create concent for U.S. support of terrorism and discrimination of Chinese, is by not just obviously spinning and pulling relative numbers out of the context that Xinjiang simply had as a remote region had less medical service access beforehand and deliberately omitting old and absolute numbers about Xinjiang and other regions that contradict the entire story, but also simply faking numbers they claim to have cited from these documents. Like turning 8% growth rates over years to 80%. The original U.S. state propaganda report before it was debunked as clompete bullshit was claiming something as stupid as everyone effecively being sterilized half a dozen times every day. They even lied when covering up the most blatant "mistakes" that completely discredit this story "based on Chinese data" like "errors" of magninute of 10, adding fake edit dates into the past into the doument so it looks like it had been long corrected.

Of course it all doesnt matter how wrong it is. The point is making the accussations, when the goal is to dehumanize and demonize a country rivaling the U.S. regime. Wether debunked or not the damage is done and seeds for doubt as planted. Just like the incubator baby stories for Iraq and the baby rape stories for Cuba and the rape stories for Lybia by the precedessors of the same "independent" CIA agents and U.S. governemnt "journalists" and "experts. They just have to continously pretend they stilll have any shred of credence or moral authority to judge China and never been exposed as liars. Just like that YouTuber who pulled off the usual editing and fake translations tricks to lie about nobody being able to pray in Mosques in some Chinese city while passing by a dozen Mosques open to pray, who already exposed himself parotting lies directly from nobody less than the U.S. government paid propagandist Adrian Zenz, that these shills still spam like they still have a point talking about that fraud. Or like that photo of a smiling Han Chinese migrant worker granny in the cotton fields from a documentation about automatition of jobs, cynically hiding her face and suggesting shes a Uighur forced slave worker 5 times a day.
 
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Chinese gov do good with China Muslim community but Xi Jin Ping piss off with recent Uigyur terrorist attack, so the condition is different, my mother and sister have also visited China for vacation late 2019 but not Xin Jiang.

We dont know for sure what happened there since China gov limit access in Xin Jiang to any Muslim fact finding mission.

At least we can heard some from Uigyur refugess and this Indonesian girl dont talk nice about China gov treatment on Uigyur, and latest Idul Fitri prayer in Xin Jiang can be done due to pressure form Western countries, so you must thank them that have concern on our Muslim brothers and sisters despite we should be critical as well to their accusation


You can contact ACT Indonesia since they are objective NGO who will not talk lies and has connection with Uigyur refugee community in Turkey


The sterilization program is happening, our Chinese Indonesian friend @Reashot Xigwin who can read Mandarin has found the China government document talking about the program

There is family planning in Xinjiang, which started later than the other places and is not as strict as the other places. This is not because they are Muslims, but because they are Chinese.
 
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The birth rate across the western Chinese region of Xinjiang, home to many of the country’s repressed Uighur minority, has almost halved amid accusations of genocide against the community.

Such an extreme decline is unprecedented in the 71 years that the UN has been collecting global fertility statistics, and is even larger than falls in birth rates during the Syrian civil war and genocides in Rwanda and Cambodia, according to Nathan Ruser, an author of a report by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, a think tank.

 
Just because people are dancing doesn't mean they're happy. This is why I never understand chinese propaganda & their use of dancing uighur in their propaganda push. Is this a mainland chinese things that you have to be a part of to understand?

The CCP even uses dancing in their propaganda film. Beside obvious propaganda being obvious who the hell do they think they're fooling with this?


Uighur Birthrates literally dropped by half in 2018 in the span of one year. I don't know why are you even gaslighting when literally your government own sources confirm this
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lol. lame.... atleast stick to one thing its either Chinese forcing muslims away from their religion or forcing them to practice their religion. Cant be both at the same time..
As for the practice , its more of a rehearsal to make sure of the security arrangements done so that your people dont walk in and blow themselves.

Nobody can force thousands of people to gather and celeberate.they have been doing this over decades.....And assuming you are right that they are all forced to dance then i dont think a person who can forcefully be made to dance really deserves any freedom.

You have actually lost the Uygur argument, its time for you to pack up your bags and find something better to defend.
 
Or reduction in birth rate..

I doubt it, Muslims tend to have higher than average birth rates compared to most other people. If true then it's unlikely it fell just naturally. It's not like China is not an expert in forcing people to not have kids. They destroyed their own demographics with that 1 child rubbish.
 
I doubt it, Muslims tend to have higher than average birth rates compared to most other people. If true then it's unlikely it fell just naturally. It's not like China is not an expert in forcing people to not have kids. They destroyed their own demographics with that 1 child rubbish.
Can be ascertained by their statement that "muslim women are no longer baby making machines". Maybe one child policy worked here as well.
 
Can be ascertained by their statement that "muslim women are no longer baby making machines". Maybe one child policy worked here as well.

Ideally should not be the case ! since the one child rule was restricted to urban areas of china only !

Xinjiang should have seen a growth !!
 
Ideally should not be the case ! since the one child rule was restricted to urban areas of china only !

Xinjiang should have seen a growth !!
I don't think Chinese would have allowed it in rural areas as well. Unless we have a concrete evidence, we can speculate all we want.
 
Xinjiang's birth rate is still twice as high as China's average, clear manifestation of China's decades old minority preferential policies.

China's overall birthrate also dropped significantly. Average Uighur families have 4 to 5 children while Hans have just one, before people living in border regions were very poor and children grew up to 12 or 13 and started to help their families and contributed to the family income, older children can also took care of younger siblings, so the more children , the better for the family.

But in recent couples of years, living standard in those regions skyrocketed, almost every child now can go to college, it means children won't be able to help their families financially at least until they are in their early 20's, and during these years families have to support the children all the way from kingdergarten to college and even beyond. Most families now can't afford having many children, the same is also true to eastern regions, but because birthrate in eastern region is already very low, the drop is not as significant. Now families just can't afford having many babies and so Chinese scholars suggest the government pay 1 million Yuan for each new born baby.
 
lol. lame.... atleast stick to one thing its either Chinese forcing muslims away from their religion or forcing them to practice their religion. Cant be both at the same time..
As for the practice , its more of a rehearsal to make sure of the security arrangements done so that your people dont walk in and blow themselves.

Nobody can force thousands of people to gather and celeberate.they have been doing this over decades.....And assuming you are right that they are all forced to dance then i dont think a person who can forcefully be made to dance really deserves any freedom.

You have actually lost the Uygur argument, its time for you to pack up your bags and find something better to defend.

Forgive for being a non muslim so I might have a lack of knowledge concerning this, but since when Iftar is performed by clapping hands while singing a communist propaganda songs during prayers. While banning children below 18 to join the prayer? Also besides there's no beard & other Uyghur cultural identifiers while the area around the mosques are littered with Han chinese like red paper lantern among other things & communist regalias. You might be justified in your concern that maybe the communist is lying about religious freedom in Xinjiang.

Whose losing who's argument? It's the communist side that needs to make a blatant propaganda disguised as a movie to hide human rights issue. Which mind you only makes them SUS as hell.

Stop strawmanning the argument and let international observers inside the country after all the CCP did nothing wrong according to you, so you should have no problem with it.
 
Forgive for being a non muslim so I might have a lack of knowledge concerning this, but since when Iftar is performed by clapping hands while singing a communist propaganda songs during prayers. While banning children below 18 to join the prayer? Also besides there's no beard & other Uyghur cultural identifiers while the area around the mosques are littered with Han chinese like red paper lantern among other things & communist regalias. You might be justified in your concern that maybe the communist is lying about religious freedom in Xinjiang.

Whose losing who's argument? It's the communist side that needs to make a blatant propaganda disguised as a movie to hide human rights issue. Which mind you only makes them SUS as hell.

Stop strawmanning the argument and let international observers inside the country after all the CCP did nothing wrong according to you, so you should have no problem with it.
im sure the world Uygur congress would be face-palming in distress after reading what you wrote.
whodafuq told you they are clapping to break iftar on an EID DAY? and who told u they are chanting a pro-ccp song? How do you know a boy walking in is under or over 18?
BHUHAHAHA
just stop it now ,stop embarrassing yourself
 
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im sure the world Uygur congress would be face-palming in shame they have you defending them..
whodafuq told you they are clapping to break iftar on an EID DAY? and who told u they are chanting a pro-ccp song? How do you know a boy walking in is under or over 18?
BHUHAHAHA
just stop it know ,stop embarrassing yourself
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Don't messed with the guy that actually has done some research into this & actually have more than 10 tabs on the ready for any kind of counter arguments.

Nah man these guy done better to defending the Uyghur than me. I heard he is quite famous in the state.
 
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