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Racism and Islamophobia, Soviet-type propaganda machines, systematic humiliation of the Uighurs, trying to prevent even the non-party states by demonizing them over fake claims, and all of these absurd arrogance that I see under this threads; all of these makes me understand better Chinese new generation. I've already started sharing some parts of these posts with my friends. Keep it up!
 
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Uyghurs are the people of the land. They have been living there since time immemorial. Han Chinese are not the people of the land. They were implanted by the Chinese authorities since 1950's or so.

Mao scrubbed Chinese culture a few decades ago with industrial quality bleach. Your great leader Mao thought Chinese culture was worth destroying.

Can you ever make up your mind ?

not true. Uyghurs are immigrants who are later to Xinjiang than Han Chinese. During the Uyghur Khaganate in 744-844 AD, they did not control Xinjiang.

The first Uyghur presence in Xiyu (today's Xinjiang) was in 843 when refugees from the khaganate established Qocho.

Han Chinese first conquered Xiyu from the Xiongnu in 100 BC and established a protectorate over the region. Han were there millenia earlier than Uyghurs and have equal rights to Xinjiang as white Americans in North America.
 
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no one wants to come to China tourism is down by 58%

I dont blame them

you are lying again .
You are very good at lying ,you explaining that people are traveling less to follow the government's policy to prevent and control the epidemic as domestic travel is down because no one wants to go to China!

You are a master at lying ,you giving links to the news without mentioning that the news said that the government was doing policies to prevent and control the epidemic.

Take a look at the Chinese government's website for a notice on prevention and control policies during the Chinese New Year. See what China is doing to stop the spread of foreign outbreaks to China and look at those visa policies.

I Suggestion you to check the global airfares, especially to China. There are surprises, haha


this is 2021 march wuhan
 
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not true. Uyghurs are immigrants who are later to Xinjiang than Han Chinese. During the Uyghur Khaganate in 744-844 AD, they did not control Xinjiang.

The first Uyghur presence in Xiyu (today's Xinjiang) was in 843 when refugees from the khaganate established Qocho.

Han Chinese first conquered Xiyu from the Xiongnu in 100 BC and established a protectorate over the region. Han were there millenia earlier than Uyghurs and have equal rights to Xinjiang as white Americans in North America.

The Tarim mummies are a series of mummies discovered in the Tarim Basin in present-day Xinjiang, China, which date from 1800 BC to the first centuries BC.[1][2][3] The mummies, particularly the early ones, are frequently associated with the presence of the Indo-European Tocharian languages in the Tarim Basin,[4] although the evidence is not totally conclusive and many centuries separate these mummies from the first attestation of the Tocharian languages in writing. Victor H. Mair's team concluded that the mummies are Caucasoid, likely speakers of Indo-European languages such as the Tocharians.



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Writing in the journals BMC Genetics and BMC Biology, Chunxiang Li, an ancient DNA specialist at Jilin University, and colleagues report on their analysis of human remains from the Xiaohe tomb complex also on the eastern edge of the basin. Dating to about 4000 years before present, the site boasts notable artifacts like "numerous large phallus and vulva posts made of poplar, striking wooden human figurines and masts, well-preserved boat coffins, leather hides," as well as grain and other preserved organic material, they write. More importantly, Xiaohe has produced the oldest, best-preserved mummies in the Tarim Basin, ideal for testing hypotheses about the origins of these people, and the site spans a millennium, making it ideal for looking into population interaction after initial settlement.






In a Feb. 18, 2011 photo, the Beauty of Xiaohe, a mummy discovered in the Tarim Basin in far western... [+] China, is shown at the Secrets of the Silk Road exhibit at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology in Philadelphia. The exhibit is scheduled to run through until March 15. Philadelphia is the final stop before the artifacts return to China. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

In a Feb. 18, 2011 photo, the Beauty of Xiaohe, a mummy discovered in the Tarim Basin in far western... [+]
From the earliest layer of burials, Li and colleagues tested 20 individuals who produced affinities with 5 different mitochondrial DNA haplogroups, or major branches on the female side of the genetic family tree. "The dominant haplogroup," they write, "in the Xiaohe people was the East Eurasian lineage C" which corresponds with a likely origin in South Siberia. But there were also "two West Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups H and K." In looking more closely at the lineages and mutations, however, Li and colleagues noted that several of the samples had mutations that are either rare in modern people or are not found in modern gene banks. They further analyzed Y chromosome haplogroups to attempt to identify major branches of the male line. But all seven males in the study belonged to a haplogroup that is widely distributed throughout Eurasia.


 
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You are point blank painting everyone else like they are living in dark ages... .

Fanboy... your people were in the dark ages too all along. only now you are awakening. Your people will realise money does not buy the soul.

You keyboard guys don’t even know the situation in southern Xinjiang. They have difficulty even using water. Most of the places are deserts, and there are still so many births.
 
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Do not interfere with our internal affairs, and there will be no problems. In general, Chinese take little interest in the internal governance and politics of others - until they interfere with ours.
Unfortunately for you, genocide is not an internal affair.
 
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Unfortunately for you, genocide is not an internal affair.

Where's the proof there's any genocide occuring? The only genocide in Central Asia is the one US drones have been conducting in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Some say the Pakistani government even allows this.
The Tarim mummies are a series of mummies discovered in the Tarim Basin in present-day Xinjiang, China, which date from 1800 BC to the first centuries BC.[1][2][3] The mummies, particularly the early ones, are frequently associated with the presence of the Indo-European Tocharian languages in the Tarim Basin,[4] although the evidence is not totally conclusive and many centuries separate these mummies from the first attestation of the Tocharian languages in writing. Victor H. Mair's team concluded that the mummies are Caucasoid, likely speakers of Indo-European languages such as the Tocharians.



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Writing in the journals BMC Genetics and BMC Biology, Chunxiang Li, an ancient DNA specialist at Jilin University, and colleagues report on their analysis of human remains from the Xiaohe tomb complex also on the eastern edge of the basin. Dating to about 4000 years before present, the site boasts notable artifacts like "numerous large phallus and vulva posts made of poplar, striking wooden human figurines and masts, well-preserved boat coffins, leather hides," as well as grain and other preserved organic material, they write. More importantly, Xiaohe has produced the oldest, best-preserved mummies in the Tarim Basin, ideal for testing hypotheses about the origins of these people, and the site spans a millennium, making it ideal for looking into population interaction after initial settlement.






In a Feb. 18, 2011 photo, the Beauty of Xiaohe, a mummy discovered in the Tarim Basin in far western... [+] China, is shown at the Secrets of the Silk Road exhibit at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology in Philadelphia. The exhibit is scheduled to run through until March 15. Philadelphia is the final stop before the artifacts return to China. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

In a Feb. 18, 2011 photo, the Beauty of Xiaohe, a mummy discovered in the Tarim Basin in far western... [+]
From the earliest layer of burials, Li and colleagues tested 20 individuals who produced affinities with 5 different mitochondrial DNA haplogroups, or major branches on the female side of the genetic family tree. "The dominant haplogroup," they write, "in the Xiaohe people was the East Eurasian lineage C" which corresponds with a likely origin in South Siberia. But there were also "two West Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups H and K." In looking more closely at the lineages and mutations, however, Li and colleagues noted that several of the samples had mutations that are either rare in modern people or are not found in modern gene banks. They further analyzed Y chromosome haplogroups to attempt to identify major branches of the male line. But all seven males in the study belonged to a haplogroup that is widely distributed throughout Eurasia.



Proof that Tocharians are the ancestors of Uighurs?
 
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Where's the proof there's any genocide occuring? The only genocide in Central Asia is the one US drones have been conducting in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Some say the Pakistani government even allows this.

Here Chinese own data, our friend @beijingwalker who posted it. It shows huge reduce of birth rate in Xinjiang province in just a year, a very anomaly event if we look on previous trend

Xinjiang birth rate.jpg
 
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Here Chinese own data, our friend @beijingwalker who posted it. It shows huge reduce of birth rate in Xinjiang province in just a year, a very anomaly event if we look on previous trend

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The same laws enforced on Han are now beginning enforced on Uighurs. It hasn't fully been enforced yet. Proof: their birth rate is still higher than national average.

When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Uighurs privilege in Xinjiang is ending.
 
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The same laws enforced on Han are now beginning enforced on Uighurs. It hasn't fully been enforced yet. Proof: their birth rate is still higher than national average.

When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. Uighurs privilege in Xinjiang is ending.

Some said in the Western side that CCP uses forced sterilization to the women there. As far as I know there is no new regulation from CCP to limit the number of kids that Uigyur parent can have. And since China has declining birth rate, I doubt they are going to limit minority ethnic birth rate

Just curious, How many kids that Han now can have ??? I heard the gov has changed previous policy
 
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Turkey may have been more supportive of Uighur independence back in the 90s and 00s. But they've backed off a bit in the past few years because they need to cooperate with China economically.
no one wants to come to China tourism is down by 58%

I dont blame them


Actually Chinese tourism is booming because Chinese tourists, who are the world's biggest spenders, are keeping their money at home and domestic tourism is soaring. China was never a huge international destination of foreign tourists anyways because of negative propaganda in the West, so domestic tourism is booming.

Don't take my word for it. This Venezuelan guy works in China as a hotel manager.

 
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Some said in the Western side that CCP uses forced sterilization to the women there. As far as I know there is no new regulation from CCP to limit the number of kids that Uigyur parent can have. And since China has declining birth rate, I doubt they are going to limit minority ethnic birth rate

Just curious, How many kids that Han now can have ??? I heard the gov has changed previous policy

2. Declining birth rates mean nothing by themselves, particularly if they're still higher than the national average by far. The previous difference is bigger than the difference between developed countries and sub Saharan African ones.
 
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2. Declining birth rates mean nothing by themselves, particularly if they're still higher than the national average by far. The previous difference is bigger than the difference between developed countries and sub Saharan African ones.

So you still cannot answer my questions there ??
 
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