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'China's well treatment of Uighurs priority of Turkey'
BY DAILY SABAH
ISTANBUL DIPLOMACY
FEB 23, 2021 8:35 PM GMT+3
Ruling Justice and Development Party's (AK Party) spokesman Ömer Çelik speaks during a press conference in Ankara on Feb. 13, 2021 (AA Photo)'s (AK Party) spokesman Ömer Çelik speaks during a press conference in Ankara on Feb. 13, 2021 (AA Photo)
Ruling Justice and Development Party's (AK Party) spokesman Ömer Çelik speaks during a press conference in Ankara on Feb. 13, 2021 (AA Photo)



"Turkey's utmost priority is that Uighur Turks in China are treated well," ruling Justice and Development Party's (AK Party) spokesman Ömer Çelik said in a statement late Tuesday.
"We follow footage from region with concern," he added.
"Only way to eliminate bad news coming from region is for China to end some of its unfavorable practices against Uighur Turks," he said.
In a statement in late last year, Çelik also urged China to correct its policies. "A clear distinction must be made between terrorists and innocent civilians," he said.
The Foreign Ministry also previously said that Turkey is concerned over the human rights situation in China’s Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, adding that Ankara expected Uighurs to be treated as equal citizens of China.


According to the ministry, a Turkish committee voiced Ankara’s concerns over Uighurs at the 75th United Nations General Assembly (UNGA).
"While respecting China’s territorial integrity, the expectations of our country and the international community from Chinese authorities is that Xinjiang’s Uighur Turks and other Muslim minorities live in peace as equal citizens of China and that their cultural and religious identities are respected, as well as guaranteed," the committee said.
It was stated that Turkey, as a country with ethnic, religious and cultural ties with Uighur Turks, is monitoring reports on human rights violations against the Uighurs and other Muslim minorities with concern.
Turkey reminded China of the U.N. Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination’s (CERD) eight recommendations made in August 2018. “The committee's concerns and suggestions are also valid today and steps have to be taken in this manner,” it said.
The statement said that Turkey would continue constructive and direct dialogue with China in this regard while following the issue on international platforms including the U.N. and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
In a separate statement, the ministry stressed once again that Turkey placed high importance on the peace, security, happiness and welfare of the Uighur Turkic people. "Our country has a national line regarding this issue and made a national declaration within this scope," Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hami Aksoy said.
Beijing's policy in Xinjiang has drawn widespread criticism from rights groups, including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch (HRW).
The region is home to 10 million Uighurs. The Turkic Muslim group, which makes up around 45% of Xinjiang's population, has long accused China's authorities of cultural, religious and economic discrimination.
Up to 1 million people, or about 7% of the Muslim population in Xinjiang, have been incarcerated in an expanding network of "political reeducation" camps, according to U.S. officials and U.N. experts.

All the Xinjiang related stuff you have to post it in it's original thread. Forum has created a specific designed thread for it. This one seems geninue but majority of them are propaganda and they all belong to that thread the propaganda once and the real ones. As per forum rules
 
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Uighurs are not massacred, are not robbed of their homes, are not deported. China sought to de-radicalize the community because of widespread terrorism. So instead of committing a genocide like the US did to Iraq in bombing the sh*t out of the country and murdering 10%+ of Iraqi population, or kicking the Uighurs out of their homes like zionists did to Palestinians... China instead did a quick re-education and de-escalation of tensions... and the West went apesh*t and lost their minds because the plan to balkanize China with Free Tibet. Free Hong Kong. Free Taiwan. Free East Turkistan. and soon to be Free Manchuria was defeated. And later was planned Free Inner Mongolia. And then even further balkanization of the rest of China. China defeated the nazi plan to use the Uighurs as terrorists to bring down China. Bankers can't handle this. Zionists can't handle this. trump Nazis can't handle this. The genocide gang of the West was defeated by China. No Uighurs died.

Here is a real genocide:


1/3 of the entire population of Chechens were murdered by Russians.

Here is another genocide:


Up to 1/10 of entire population of Chechen were murdered by Russians.

Here is another genocide:


1/4 of entire population of Chechens were murdered by Russians over a false flag by putin blamed on the people of the Caucasus.

You have to be insane to call **not one dead Uighur** - a "genocide". Uighurs live on ancestral homes. Uighurs not deported. China brings jobs and development to Uighurs. More than those rebellious Turks deserve. China is too good for Uighurs because Chinese are good and humble people.

Those who need to be driven from the land are Western genociders driven from occupying much of the world from Iraq to Japan. And after that driven from the Americas and after that driven from Europe. Those lands were stolen by a heinous unforgivable crime of genocide. The presence of genociders on those lands is an unspeakable horrendous crime.
 
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Canada votes to recognize China’s treatment of Uighur population as genocide
Parliament’s move was not supported by Trudeau and likely to raise diplomatic tensions between the two nations
Umer Jan attends a rally on 19 February outside the Canadian embassy to encourage Canada in labeling China’s treatment of its Uighur population as genocide.

Umer Jan attends a rally on 19 February outside the Canadian embassy to encourage Canada in labeling China’s treatment of its Uighur population as genocide. Photograph: Leah Millis/Reuters

Leyland Cecco in Toronto
Mon 22 Feb 2021 16.27 EST


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Canada has become the second country in the world to describe China’s treatment of its Uighur minority as a genocide, following a contentious parliamentary vote which is likely to further raise diplomatic tensions between the two nations.
Lawmakers approved the non-binding motion, brought forward by opposition Conservatives, to recognize China’s actions in the north-western Xinjiang province as a genocide against Muslim Uighurs.

Prime minister Justin Trudeau and senior members of cabinet did not attend the vote on Monday. All other Liberal members present voted in favour of the motion, except the foreign affairs minister, Marc Garneau, who abstained on behalf of the government.
By calling the actions in China a genocide, Canada joins the United States, which made the determination shortly before Donald Trump left office. A similar attempt on a vote in the UK failed earlier this month.
But the move by the Canadian parliament is likely to bring a host of new political challenges for the prime minister, who has tried in recent years to strike a balance between pushing back against China’s hostilities and maintaining cordial relations with Beijing.
Trudeau, whose Liberal party governs without a parliamentary majority, had previously spoken out against bringing the motion to a vote, telling reporters that genocide was an “extremely loaded” term and that more study of the issue was needed before a determination could be made.
Over the weekend, China’s ambassador to Canada criticized the vote, telling the Canadian Press that officials in Ottawa should stay out of China’s internal politics.
“We firmly oppose that because it runs counter to the facts. And it’s like, you know, interfering in our domestic affairs,” said Cong Peiwu. “There’s nothing like genocide happening in Xinjiang at all.”

'Our souls are dead': how I survived a Chinese 're-education' camp for Uighurs
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More than 1 million Uighurs have been detained in camps in Xinjiang province, and reports have emerged of systematic rape and sexual violence. China denies such allegations and describes the facilities as vocational and educational training centres, saying it is trying to stamp out extremism.
But last October, a Canadian parliamentary subcommittee determined that China’s treatment of Uighurs constituted a genocide.
The motion is likely to escalate tensions between the two countries, whose relationship has already undergone significant strain since the arrest on a US warrant of Huawei’s Meng Wanzhou in December 2018. Within days, two Canadian citizens – Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor – were detained in China.
Canada has described the men’s detention as “hostage diplomacy”.
Ahead of the vote, the Conservative leader, Erin O’Toole, had said the motion was necessary to send a “clear and unequivocal signal that we will stand up for human rights and the dignity of human rights, even if it means sacrificing some economic opportunity”.
The Conservatives, New Democrats, Bloc Québécois and Greens have all called for sanctions against Chinese officials and for the upcoming Olympic Winter Games to be moved from Beijing.



Maybe five/four eyes will not join Beijing winter olympic games, nothing more.
 
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Trudeau realized that Canada has more to lose In a longer run. But he does not know how to get out of it.
The question here is: Does China give a damn?
IMO for Canada, this is an era of waste opportunity. What a pity? :coffee:
 
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Canada votes to recognize China’s treatment of Uighur population as genocide
Parliament’s move was not supported by Trudeau and likely to raise diplomatic tensions between the two nations
Umer Jan attends a rally on 19 February outside the Canadian embassy to encourage Canada in labeling China’s treatment of its Uighur population as genocide.

Umer Jan attends a rally on 19 February outside the Canadian embassy to encourage Canada in labeling China’s treatment of its Uighur population as genocide. Photograph: Leah Millis/Reuters

Leyland Cecco in Toronto
Mon 22 Feb 2021 16.27 EST


1,041

Canada has become the second country in the world to describe China’s treatment of its Uighur minority as a genocide, following a contentious parliamentary vote which is likely to further raise diplomatic tensions between the two nations.
Lawmakers approved the non-binding motion, brought forward by opposition Conservatives, to recognize China’s actions in the north-western Xinjiang province as a genocide against Muslim Uighurs.

Prime minister Justin Trudeau and senior members of cabinet did not attend the vote on Monday. All other Liberal members present voted in favour of the motion, except the foreign affairs minister, Marc Garneau, who abstained on behalf of the government.
By calling the actions in China a genocide, Canada joins the United States, which made the determination shortly before Donald Trump left office. A similar attempt on a vote in the UK failed earlier this month.
But the move by the Canadian parliament is likely to bring a host of new political challenges for the prime minister, who has tried in recent years to strike a balance between pushing back against China’s hostilities and maintaining cordial relations with Beijing.
Trudeau, whose Liberal party governs without a parliamentary majority, had previously spoken out against bringing the motion to a vote, telling reporters that genocide was an “extremely loaded” term and that more study of the issue was needed before a determination could be made.
Over the weekend, China’s ambassador to Canada criticized the vote, telling the Canadian Press that officials in Ottawa should stay out of China’s internal politics.
“We firmly oppose that because it runs counter to the facts. And it’s like, you know, interfering in our domestic affairs,” said Cong Peiwu. “There’s nothing like genocide happening in Xinjiang at all.”

'Our souls are dead': how I survived a Chinese 're-education' camp for Uighurs
Read more

More than 1 million Uighurs have been detained in camps in Xinjiang province, and reports have emerged of systematic rape and sexual violence. China denies such allegations and describes the facilities as vocational and educational training centres, saying it is trying to stamp out extremism.
But last October, a Canadian parliamentary subcommittee determined that China’s treatment of Uighurs constituted a genocide.
The motion is likely to escalate tensions between the two countries, whose relationship has already undergone significant strain since the arrest on a US warrant of Huawei’s Meng Wanzhou in December 2018. Within days, two Canadian citizens – Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor – were detained in China.
Canada has described the men’s detention as “hostage diplomacy”.
Ahead of the vote, the Conservative leader, Erin O’Toole, had said the motion was necessary to send a “clear and unequivocal signal that we will stand up for human rights and the dignity of human rights, even if it means sacrificing some economic opportunity”.
The Conservatives, New Democrats, Bloc Québécois and Greens have all called for sanctions against Chinese officials and for the upcoming Olympic Winter Games to be moved from Beijing.



A boycott of the Olympics will for sure dent their prestige depending on the block that forms and agrees to it.

A good idea.

Coupled with sanctions.

Money and prestige.

Cheers, Doc
 
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they are only confirming the inevitable, i.e. a clash of civilizations. and its not lookin' too good for the western civilization with almost every western economy is severe turmoil. I see on the american streets on a daily basis...
 
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1,200+ people from over 100 countries have visited Xinjiang since 2018, including UN officials & foreign diplomats posted in China. China welcomes foreign friends who uphold the principles of objectivity & justice to visit Xinjiang to see the economic & social development there. Editors: Jin Jianyu and Huo Siyu/GT Graphic: Xu Zihe/GT
 
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Bottom line is the Western world is on a rapid decline in every area. Europe is the sick man of the world and barely clinging onto any relevance. The Anglo-Saxon era is coming to an end too. This petrifies them because the next most powerful civilisation is China. They fear China’s scale, efficiency and unity.
 
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That doesn't go in quotes. China is already a superpower by every measure, and they haven't invented the word yet for what it will be called in the future.

Seriously, WTH? I understand someone not liking the PRC but they're a super power in their own right at this point.

As far as the Uyghur's are concerned, from what I've seen it's not great. But it also doesn't seem to exceed the vast, vast array of crimes other nations have and continue to commit for their own benefit.
 
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As far as the Uyghur's are concerned, from what I've seen it's not great.
Frankly speaking, that's true. But the capacity for any nuanced discussion about China's policy toward its Uighur population (and its minority populations in general) has been obliterated by Western propaganda.
 
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Kick out the genociders from Europe and return Europe to the natives of Europe. The longer this theft goes on, the worse injustice to those who were victims of mass genocide. The level of genocide in Europe is not comparable in human history. All the native men were murdered and the native European women who did not share their husband's and father's fate of genocide, were raped to produce sons who went and committed genocide to the next European community. Europe has a huge problem of evil seed, which is why most evils in the world are from Europe/North America. Because it is genetic, the identity of fake "whites" in Europe is to bully and genocide.

The US Has Been at war 225 out of 243 years since 1776


Many of those wars, especially against the Native Americans were genocidal.

The lesson of the story, is genociders get weapons that are better than peaceful European native people, and the genociders wipe out the natives using superior weapons. So, very imperative for China to have better technology than the West. It is about survival of not only this planet, but other planets too.
 
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Bottom line is the Western world is on a rapid decline in every area. Europe is the sick man of the world and barely clinging onto any relevance. The Anglo-Saxon era is coming to an end too. This petrifies them because the next most powerful civilisation is China. They fear China’s scale, efficiency and unity.

It is the anglo-saxon world, not the entire west world, the anglo has lots of enemies in the west world to begin with.

To believe the entire west world will fight for them is like Hitler to believe, that, in 1945, Germany can form an alliance with the US and Britain to fight Russians, it is only a dotard's wet dream.

There are already so many people outside of China, believe China is about to replace the US, it is already approach the tipping point.

If the US were lose a war to China, thats the last straw, they will lost most of their supports in the world, since their loss will greatly encourage all the regional powers to challenge them, and with China's win, China only need some small effects to replace them in the world.

Thats why they could not afford to lose a war to China, thats why recently their generals and military leaders keep talking about using nuclear weapons, thats the stuff they believe they still have an advantage vis-via China now.

China should prepare the coming war very seriously, especially the nuke part, since in case of a war when the US were in disadvantage position, they could really use tactical nukes if China's nuke arsenal were insufficient, because they could not afford to lose this one, its not korea war or vietnam war, its a war that could end their era.

So when China take back Taiwan, better be fully prepared an all-out war with the US and their anglo-lapdogs, and better get sufficient nukes just in case.
 
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