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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

  • Total voters
    119
Perhaps you should spend more time on my post history to learn that i have done it countless times.

However, east Turkestan history is equally or even older than Kashmir and the brutalities and oppression on them is unlike what's happening in Kashmir and Palestine. It's a holocaust worst than Nazis.

I guess you and me are different kind of Muslims. I see a holocaust on Muslims and my blood boils. I don't choose sides.

A thought doesn't go into my mind that it's okay what China is doing because my country is allies with Pharaoh. Because my religion Islam is very clear. If you can't stop oppression by force, then use your voice. If you can't use your voice consider it bad BUT don't ever become an ally of the Pharaoh.

The Uighers holocaust is also recognised by the UN.

Do you think the billions of enemies of Allah will be able to aid you on the day of judgement? If not, when are you going to do what Islam says and not what your worldly benefits dictate. Or do you feel content that you could say Brother Eddie, Zakir Naik, Mullas, Erdoğan, Arsalan Hidayat and every vocal Muslim was on CIA payroll? And only your beloved Pharaoh was the truth?
You said you would come to fight Jihad in Xinjiang, when will you put the money where your mouth is, or you are just all all empty talk no show?
 
@beijingwalker You remember I created a thread to show everyone how CIA is forcing American Muslim scholars to push forward anti-China propaganda through Muslim Brotherhood. The same tactic they use to shut down Pakistani voices in the US for being friendly with China.

Yet China speaks up for Kashmir and Palestine, while these 'scholars for dollars' become shy to even mention real occupation and bloodshed which is bleeding the Muslim world.
 
@beijingwalker

Here is the link to that thread here. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/130-american-muslim-imams-sign-a-statement-on-uighurs.604034/

I am very well connected to Islamic scholarship in the US, and I have seen genuine cases of blackmail and intimidation used against Islamic scholars by CIA and their agents in the US.

The case of Nouman Ali Khan is an obvious example. He was a Pakistani American Imam who was becoming too powerful, actually he could have become Mufti of the US, so Muslim Brotherhood man Omar Suleman and others fabricated lies against him and against his character to bring him down.

I am sure you know what happened to Yusuf Islam, i.e. Cat Stevens, Michael Jackson (supposedly he converted to Islam,) and Princess Dianna (assassinated as she was going to marry a Muslim.)

Recent case of attempted murder of Zakir Naik by Indian government also reveals how they function.

Many more strange and unexplained instances like cases against a blind Egyptian Imam for a terrorist act (how?,) Imam Siraj Wahhaj and his missing son, assassination of Malcolm X, and known case of the shaming of Muhammad Ali the boxer.
 
Then these people say China is the enemy.

Remember what Muhammad Ali said when he rejected the draft.

"Ain't no Vietcong call me a Nigger."
 
You said you would come to fight Jihad in Xinjiang, when will you put the money where your mouth is, or you are just all all empty talk no show?

Violent jihad happens when the leader of a community declares it. In this case, Bajwa and Niazi are my leaders and they have the authority to declare it. When they do declare it, it will be farz on everyone. Because killing anyone even Chinese military who aren't fighting you is haram and a sin and an act of terrorism. I can't pick up a gun and shoot Chinese military, i would earn Jahanam (hell) because despite their wretched deeds, God still loves them and their blood is haram on us until we are fighting in a declared war.

Perhaps if you actually studied Islam rather than mocking Islam and Muslims all day, you would know this basic fact.

But i don't blame you. You're surrounded by a bunch of weasels for Muslims who want your pleasure rather than speak a word of truth to you so you would learn something. You're better than these weasel Muslims, you're proud of being an Islam hater but these weasel Muslims are ashamed of telling you what Islam is all about.

Anyway, i have been doing vocal Jihad since i joined. Speaking against oppression is a Jihad.
 
Violent jihad happens when the leader of a community declares it. In this case, Bajwa and Niazi are my leaders and they have the authority to declare it. When they do declare it, it will be farz on everyone. Because killing anyone even Chinese military who aren't fighting you is haram and a sin and an act of terrorism. I can't pick up a gun and shoot Chinese military, i would earn Jahanam (hell) because despite their wretched deeds, God still loves them and their blood is haram on us until we are fighting in a declared war.

Perhaps if you actually studied Islam rather than mocking Islam and Muslims all day, you would know this basic fact.

But i don't blame you. You're surrounded by a bunch of weasels for Muslims who want your pleasure rather than speak a word of truth to you so you would learn something. You're better than these weasel Muslims, you're proud of being an Islam hater but these weasel Muslims are ashamed of telling you what Islam is all about.

Anyway, i have been doing vocal Jihad since i joined. Speaking against oppression is a Jihad.




Are you going to speak against the genocide NATO has carried against Afghan civilians?:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53597137
 
I never seen him talk about Kashmir. I think he will fight Hindutva jihad on Indian side against us.

InshaAllah, i have no doubt that i and many devout Muslims will fight a Jihad against you and many other hypocrites like you who support and defend Pharaoh when Imam Mehdi comes InshaAllah. May Allah give me the opportunity to fight Jihad with Imam Mehdi. Do you think Nauzbillah, that Imam Mehdi will side with Pharaoh xi and CCP and fight against Uighurs? Astaghfirullah. I have chosen the side of Imam Mehdi from this day so i will be prepared and be a soldier of Islam when the time comes InshaAllah!!!

Allah is not unaware of what you do and what is in your heart. Dr Zakir Naik, Nouman Ali Khan and all these religious scholars you claim to represent are on the opposite side of your beliefs. They suffer racism and hatred from Chinese for speaking up for Uighurs. You defend the Pharaoh and you feel offended when Xi Jinping is called a Pharaoh. You side with Pharaoh and you fight against Muslims and the oppressed Muslims rather than be their voice.

You're not fooling me, you think you will fool God?


You made a thread on how to counter Muslims because those Muslims became a voice for the oppressed Uighurs who are being forced to declare Xi Jinping as a dog.

Nauzbillah. I have no words for your hypocrisy.
 
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InshaAllah, i have no doubt that i and many devout Muslims will fight a Jihad against you and many other hypocrites like you who support and defend Pharaoh when Imam Mehdi comes InshaAllah. May Allah give me the opportunity to fight Jihad with Imam Mehdi. Do you think Nauzbillah, that Imam Mehdi will side with Pharaoh Chinese and fight against Uighurs? Astaghfirullah. I have chosen the side of Imam Mehdi from this day so i will be prepared and be a soldier of Islam when the time comes InshaAllah!!!

Allah is not unaware of what you do and what is in your heart. Dr Zakir Naik, Nouman Ali Khan and all these religious scholars you claim to represent are on the opposite side of your beliefs. They suffer racism and hatred from Chinese for speaking up for Uighurs. You defend the Pharaoh and you feel offended when Xi Jinping is called a Pharaoh. You side with Pharaoh and you fight against Muslims and the oppressed Muslims rather than be their voice.

You're not fooling me, you think you will fool God?


You made a thread on how to counter Muslims because those Muslims became a voice for the oppressed Uighurs who are being forced to declare Xi Jinping as a dog.

Nauzbillah. I have no words for your hypocrisy.







You don't care about Muslims. You just care about demonizing China. When will you speak up against the murder of the Kashmiris, Palestinians, Iraqis, Afghans etc?
 
Perhaps you should spend more time on my post history to learn that i have done it countless times.

However, east Turkestan history is equally or even older than Kashmir and the brutalities and oppression on them is unlike what's happening in Kashmir and Palestine. It's a holocaust worst than Nazis.

I guess you and me are different kind of Muslims. I see a holocaust on Muslims and my blood boils. I don't choose sides.

A thought doesn't go into my mind that it's okay what China is doing because my country is allies with Pharaoh. Because my religion Islam is very clear. If you can't stop oppression by force, then use your voice. If you can't use your voice consider it bad BUT don't ever become an ally of the Pharaoh.

The Uighers holocaust is also recognised by the UN.

Do you think the billions of enemies of Allah will be able to aid you on the day of judgement? If not, when are you going to do what Islam says and not what your worldly benefits dictate. Or do you feel content that you could say Brother Eddie, Zakir Naik, Mullas, Erdoğan, Arsalan Hidayat and every vocal Muslim was on CIA payroll? And only your beloved Pharaoh was the truth?

Oh I have gone through your history and the last time you even mentioned Kashmir was on June 21st, nearly two months ago. But to be honest that's rare as well. Now if you compare it to how many times you go on about China, it's not comparable.
So now you're saying what's happening in Xinjiang is worse than Kashmir and Palestine, that's an outright fallacy. Let's concentrate on Kashmir, something you should know well. The whole population is in complete lockdown and brutal occupation, there is evidence of women and children being shot at point blank range, there has been mass rape, people denied medical aid etc. This was just recent;

A-trhee-year-old-Kashmir-child-sitting-on-his-shot-dead-grandfater-636x395.jpg


Also I wouldn't use the term holocaust, as that means mass slaughter of a population, I'd say oppression is a fitting term.

Me and you are different types of Muslims agreed, I am honest and forthright, don't have any agenda here. You do. Like I said before, I couldn't give a hoot about your anti-Chinese views, it's what your views about Pakistan that are the most troubling.
Drop the act, you were banned on for saying this;

"Pakistani army kills Pashtuns"

It's clear to all. This just shows our tolerance, that someone like you can come back, even though you put on the whole I'm a pious Muslim act, I care for all Muslims, you don't, you are allies with Kaffirs etc. We've seen it all before, it doesn't phase us because you revealed long ago what you are about.

The UN has commented on the Uighurs, but's it's not a territorial dispute, I should have made that clear. I don't agree with these camps, there were other ways to solve such issues.

As for the rest I've already commented on the issue. The people you mention, aside Eddie and Naik, I don't know every well. Naik is also anti-Pakistani, however he did speak about Kashmir after article 370 was removed.

The rest of what you wrote I've already answered in my first post and the one now. If you want to carry on talking about the day of judgment, go right ahead.
 
Oh I have gone through your history and the last time you even mentioned Kashmir was on June 21st, nearly two months ago. But to be honest that's rare as well. Now if you compare it to how many times you go on about China, it's not comparable.
So now you're saying what's happening in Xinjiang is worse than Kashmir and Palestine, that's an outright fallacy. Let's concentrate on Kashmir, something you should know well. The whole population is in complete lockdown and brutal occupation, there is evidence of women and children being shot at point blank range, there has been mass rape, people denied medical aid etc. This was just recent;

A-trhee-year-old-Kashmir-child-sitting-on-his-shot-dead-grandfater-636x395.jpg


Also I wouldn't use the term holocaust, as that means mass slaughter of a population, I'd say oppression is a fitting term.

Me and you are different types of Muslims agreed, I am honest and forthright, don't have any agenda here. You do. Like I said before, I couldn't give a hoot about your anti-Chinese views, it's what your views about Pakistan that are the most troubling.
Drop the act, you were banned on for saying this;

"Pakistani army kills Pashtuns"

It's clear to all. This just shows our tolerance, that someone like you can come back, even though you put on the whole I'm a pious Muslim act, I care for all Muslims, you don't, you are allies with Kaffirs etc. We've seen it all before, it doesn't phase us because you revealed long ago what you are about.

The UN has commented on the Uighurs, but's it's not a territorial dispute, I should have made that clear. I don't agree with these camps, there were other ways to solve such issues.

As for the rest I've already commented on the issue. The people you mention, aside Eddie and Naik, I don't know every well. Naik is also anti-Pakistani, however he did speak about Kashmir after article 370 was removed.

The rest of what you wrote I've already answered in my first post and the one now. If you want to carry on talking about the day of judgment, go right ahead.






Bro, have you checked his IP address? He may actually be an indian troll.
 
Instead just harassing Pakistanis who support China. Agenda is clear.

Mujhe yoo lagda he ke ye waqi koi gangu hoga.






Question is, is he even a Pakistani or a Muslim to begin with? Funny how he is okay and fine with indians, americans and israelis killing Muslims and actually defends them.
 
Bro, have you checked his IP address? He may actually be an indian troll.

No he's Pakistani but with a breaking apart Pakistan agenda.

This was one of his posts last year. He also stated in the past that Pakistani army kills Pashtuns.



He is jahil because he had a troubled beginning and suffered at the hands of talibans and army. He didn't have the luxury of Oxford education, heck, he couldn't even have the luxury of education that a common Pakistani especially Punjabi enjoys.

There is 100% truth to his demands and his movement is based on reality, that's why he's gaining followers and respect in KPK.

The Waziristani people have been used like toilet paper by Pakistani army especially Pashtuns dating back to when Pakistan wanted to fight Americas war against Soviets.

People sitting in Punjab don't have an iota of clue the horrors that KPK people have gone through. They give examples of Syria and Iraq ignorant to the fact that people of KPK actually went through those conditions.

The army is scared and can't do anything because PTM is innocent and nothing like TTP. If army tries anything stupid against them then Pashtuns will leave army which make up 80% of army's fighting force and it will probably divide Pakistan.

So the fifth generation warfare is the tactics. Spread bullshit like PTM attacking checkpoints (failed to see a single gun in the hands of protestors) which only idiots would believe and call them RAW funded meanwhile Kalbushan Yadev is loved by our army and given coverage on TV.

Pakistan army wants to have an enemy in KPK so they can then get foreign aid and dollars. If KPK prospers like Punjab then how will Army get funding and who will they fight?

Obviously army wants peace with India and China and want to fight Pakistanis.
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