All Talibans / TTP / Alqaeda are one?

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But some people still believe that ttp are cia/raw agents and afghan taliban are glorious freedom fighters.For this conspiracy theory to exist they need to assert constantly that there is no cooperation between afghan taliban and ttp(even though there are countless evidences suggesting othervise).I remember a thread about mullah fazlullah along afghan taliban capturing a district in afghanistan,those conspiracy theorists here twisted the story completely to make it look like mullah fazlullah joined with ANA/NATO Attacked afghan taliban!

Well it is Ironic.... When these guys kill NATO troops many people here celebrate the news yet when then kill Pakistanis they are called CIA agents.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Well it is Ironic.... When these guys kill NATO troops many people here celebrate the news yet when then kill Pakistanis they are called CIA agents.

whats so ironic about that?

when there are blasts in Pakistan then the web forums fill up with Indian taunts and sarcasms
but when similar things happen due to LeT or Naxalites then you cry and blame the ISI

 

[untitled]

whats so ironic about that?

when there are blasts in Pakistan then the web forums fill up with Indian taunts and sarcasms
but when similar things happen due to LeT or Naxalites then you cry and blame the ISI

You think I am an Indian ?

 

[Kevrai]

Afghan Taliban is against US = attacking NATO...

TTP - is against US = attacking Pakistan for being Ally of US...

AlQaeda = God knows about it or CIA knows.... It has been used / 'or the reason' to invade Afghanistan...

im confused....all pakistanis here on this forum say that the TTP are funded by the yanks( some also say india)...why would they be against the US then???

 

[untitled]

im confused....all pakistanis here on this forum say that the TTP are funded by the yanks( some also say india)...why would they be against the US then???

Welcome to the world of deceit and double agents

 

[Imran Khan]

im confused....all pakistanis here on this forum say that the TTP are funded by the yanks( some also say india)...why would they be against the US then???

he is wrong TTP never killed a single US solder they never attack USA in there history.

 

[LeGenD]

he is wrong TTP never killed a single US solder they never attack USA in there history.

No! You are wrong.

Here is an example: Taliban attack US diplomats in Peshawar - Threat Matrix

TTP is enemy of NATO and also Pakistan (being an ally of NATO).

These are the fundamental objectives of TTP:

1. Enforce sharia.
2. Unite against coalition forces in Afghanistan.
3. Perform defensive jihad against the Pakistani Army.

TTP is also closely associated with AlQaeda network so this alliance automatically make it the enemy of NATO.

The agenda of TTP is to put pressure on Pakistan to break its alliance with NATO for the Afghan front.

These quotes are directly from TTP leadership:

The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan demanded the Pakistani military halt operations in Taliban territory and release of their members. The Taliban also stated it would continue the fight against Coalition forces in Afghanistan.

"The meeting participants have demanded an immediate end of the military operation being carried out in Swat, and given a 10-day ultimatum to the government to pullout troops from the area," the Nation reported. The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan also demanded "the closure of the military checkposts in North and South Waziristan and release of all Taliban activists including former Lal Masjid Khateeb Maulana Abul Aziz."

"Our main aim is to target the US allies in Afghanistan but the government of Pakistan's ill-strategy has made us to launch a defensive Jihad in Pakistan," spokesman Maulvi Omar stated. "The government of Pakistan would be paid in the same coin now," Mehsud said.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/12/pakistani_taliban_un.php#ixzz1SqnFwZXW

 

[Kevrai]

No! You are wrong.

Here is an example: Taliban attack US diplomats in Peshawar - Threat Matrix

TTP is enemy of NATO and also Pakistan (being an ally of NATO).

These are the fundamental objectives of TTP:

1. Enforce sharia.
2. Unite against coalition forces in Afghanistan.
3. Perform defensive jihad against the Pakistani Army.

TTP is also closely associated with AlQaeda network so this alliance automatically make it the enemy of NATO.

The agenda of TTP is to put pressure on Pakistan to break its alliance with NATO for the Afghan front.

These quotes are directly from TTP leadership:



Read more: Pakistani Taliban unites under Baitullah Mehsud - The Long War Journal

so all this crap im hearing on this forum about the US funding the TTP is untrue!!!

 

[Imran Khan]

No! You are wrong.

Here is an example: Taliban attack US diplomats in Peshawar - Threat Matrix

so how many killed in that attack? answer is 0

TTP is enemy of NATO and also Pakistan (being an ally of NATO).

They are enemy of usa nato and they are fighting there 99% war in pakistan lolz .they are bunch of MFers which sleep with anyone who pay them .if there enemy is USA why they kill 30000 pakistanis dude ? a stupid can understand that attack was from afghan support taliban not by TTP.

These are the fundamental objectives of TTP:

there is one point agenda of TTP .who to destroy pakistan make is worse then afghanistan and rule it as they like .

1. Enforce sharia.

sharia lolz which shairya are you talking abut? they rape they lash in public they kill daily 50-100 innocents by the name of sharia-blast in mosques? blasts in hospitals?destroy defenders of muslims? attack on muslim solders? kill old age muslim scholars?loot civilions?beheed capture muslim solders? marry beautiful girls by force?use teens for suicide blast ? we kick this sharia with our boots

2. Unite against coalition forces in Afghanistan.

unite and kill muslims more then nato us ? unite for occupy muslim land rather then free afghanistan? unite for destroy pakistan security structure ?

3. Perform defensive jihad against the Pakistani Army.

what the f0ck is defensive jihad? they damage our forces as much as the can they attack on every city every cantonment every major facility like POFWAH -MEHRAN BASE-NAVAL CENTERS-GHQ-PAC KAMRA-and you call its foken defensive?these bastards make our country near complete destroyed and its defensive god damn jihaaaaaad or f0kening full scale fassaad?

TTP is also closely associated with AlQaeda network so this alliance automatically make it the enemy of NATO.

TTP is bunch of uneducated idiot mullahs which dont even travel once any other country and watch a civil world .most of them are totally brainless idiots which believe they are best muslims on earth and they deserve to rule .they are not alliance with alqaide but alqaida use these stupids .

The agenda of TTP is to put pressure on Pakistan to break its alliance with NATO for the Afghan front.

they put it since last 4 years and we kick there @ss .pak army know well who to tacle with animals these bastards have no choice but to surrender or ready to go hell .

 

[humanfirst]

he is wrong TTP never killed a single US solder they never attack USA in there history.

Ttp was behind the attack of cia station last year,which killed 8 high ranking cia officials.
Taliban suicide attack kills CIA agents at US outpost in Afghanistan | World news | The Guardian
Although afghan taliban claimed the attack,a video was later released in which the suicide bomber was sitting next to hakeemullah mehsud(ttp leader) and delivering their terror message.Apart from that,ttp have torched 100+ nato supply trucks,attacked U.S consulate in peshawar etc..

 

[LeGenD]

so how many killed in that attack? answer is 0

Point is not about how many killed. It proves that TTP can act against Americans when it desires to do so.

TTP is allied with AlQaeda network. This is sufficient evidence of where TTP stands in the grand picture in terms of its agenda.

When TTP was expanding inside Pakistan, NATO was also getting frustated and concerned. Their came a time, when US leadership thought that Pakistani nuclear assets are unsafe. Something had to be done about this, and this is when the top secret contingency plan for the Pakistani nuclear assets was hinted upon for the first time. However, our military operations against TTP quelled these worries.

They are enemy of usa nato and they are fighting there 99% war in pakistan lolz .they are bunch of MFers which sleep with anyone who pay them .if there enemy is USA why they kill 30000 pakistanis dude ? a stupid can understand that attack was from afghan support taliban not by TTP.

That is because TTP came in to existence inside Pakistan in 2007. Most of its manpower is from Pakistan. Also, you are forgetting that USA took out Baitullah Mehsud for us. Under his leadership, TTP defeated Pakistan army in some battles. He was a big threat to our efforts against terrorism.

there is one point agenda of TTP .who to destroy pakistan make is worse then afghanistan and rule it as they like .

The objectives that I mentioned are stated in reputable sources. I know that TTP is not fit to rule Pakistan. No one in his right state of mind would accept it.

sharia lolz which shairya are you talking abut? they rape they lash in public they kill daily 50-100 innocents by the name of sharia-blast in mosques? blasts in hospitals?destroy defenders of muslims? attack on muslim solders? kill old age muslim scholars?loot civilions?beheed capture muslim solders? marry beautiful girls by force?use teens for suicide blast ? we kick this sharia with our boots

Brother, I am not in cahoots with TTP. I simply listed its primary objectives here.

unite and kill muslims more then nato us ? unite for occupy muslim land rather then free afghanistan? unite for destroy pakistan security structure ?

To TTP, we are the infidels who sided with US in Afghanistan. According to TTP, we need to be answered in the same coin; just like NATO and its Afghan allies are being answered in Afghanistan by Taliban under command of Mohammad Omar. This simple logic explains it all.

what the f0ck is defensive jihad? they damage our forces as much as the can they attack on every city every cantonment every major facility like POFWAH -MEHRAN BASE-NAVAL CENTERS-GHQ-PAC KAMRA-and you call its foken defensive?these bastards make our country near complete destroyed and its defensive god damn jihaaaaaad or f0kening full scale fassaad?

Same as right above.

TTP is bunch of uneducated idiot mullahs which dont even travel once any other country and watch a civil world .most of them are totally brainless idiots which believe they are best muslims on earth and they deserve to rule .they are not alliance with alqaide but alqaida use these stupids .

No complains from me on this.

they put it since last 4 years and we kick there @ss .pak army know well who to tacle with animals these bastards have no choice but to surrender or ready to go hell .

TTP is still a credible threat to our society. The Mehran Base incident is a reminder of this. And do not forget that USA helped us in stopping expansion of TTP.

TTP wants to break the alliance formed between NATO and Pakistan for counter-terrorism operations in Pakistan and Afghanistan. And from the look of current state of affairs, it seems as if TTP with assistance from AlQaeda have actually managed to fracture Pak-US alliance in WOT. And we all have fallen for this trap. Sad turn of events indeed.

 

[S.M.R]

he is wrong TTP never killed a single US solder they never attack USA in there history.

I didn't say that US has killed US soldiers, they are killing Pakistanis for being ally of Uncle Sam.

 

[CENTCOM]

Dear Readers, has the past not told us who the Taliban really are? Have they not been a force of intimidation and killings since 1998 when they ruled large parts of Afghanistan?

The Taliban and Al-Qaida have just one agenda, rule with intimidation and kill to achieve the goals. That is what they have been doing whether it is Pakistan or Afghanistan. Taliban has killed over 35,000 Pakistanis so far through cold blooded murder which includes suicide bombing, IEDs, and shooting down their victims. We just saw the gruesome video of them gunning down 16 helpless policemen with their hands tied behind their backs. This is common with Taliban on both sides of the border. In Afghanistan, is it not a fact that the United Nations human casualty report clearly records that the majority of deaths in Afghanistan (82% as of May 2011) are caused by anti-government terrorists? In fact, in the past year, UNAMA documented that the Taliban killed more than 2300 Afghan civilians. Over the same period, the number of US soldiers killed by Taliban insurgents was a mere fraction of this figure. How, then, do you term them a “genuine domestic resistance?”
http://unama.unmissions.org/Portals/UNAMA/SG Reports/110623 SG report June 2011.pdf

This video show the brutality and real face of Taliban:

Is this the face of a “genuine domestic resistance?”. Please also watch the following video of local Afghans. They are residents of Daikondi. They are revolting against Taliban because Taliban were not allowing services. The Taliban were also not allowing teachers to teach their students. The Taliban did not want their country to develop; because, in the words of these residents, they wanted the people of Afghanistan to live like slaves. “But we refuse to live like slaves,” was their response. One resident quoted vowed to continue the fight to remove them from their area.

The real agenda of Taliban and Al-Qaida has been to enslave the populace through intimidation and murder and enforce their version of religion, where no one dares to oppose their ideology. Have we not seen this when they ruled Afghanistan and when they got a chance to administer their rule in Swat (under the agreement with the Pakistani government) at both instance they showed us their true color and created mayhem in the region? They have been tried and tested. We know that people on both sides of the border want to live a normal life without having to face fear or intimidation. It can only be achieved when these terrorists are eliminated, and that is a part of our efforts along with the Pakistani military and ANA. We are succeeding and soon peace will prevail.


CDR Bill Speaks
DET-United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

 

[salmakh84]

Dear Readers, has the past not told us who the Taliban really are? Have they not been a force of intimidation and killings since 1998 when they ruled large parts of Afghanistan?

The Taliban and Al-Qaida have just one agenda, rule with intimidation and kill to achieve the goals. That is what they have been doing whether it is Pakistan or Afghanistan. Taliban has killed over 35,000 Pakistanis so far through cold blooded murder which includes suicide bombing, IEDs, and shooting down their victims. We just saw the gruesome video of them gunning down 16 helpless policemen with their hands tied behind their backs. This is common with Taliban on both sides of the border. In Afghanistan, is it not a fact that the United Nations human casualty report clearly records that the majority of deaths in Afghanistan (82% as of May 2011) are caused by anti-government terrorists? In fact, in the past year, UNAMA documented that the Taliban killed more than 2300 Afghan civilians. Over the same period, the number of US soldiers killed by Taliban insurgents was a mere fraction of this figure. How, then, do you term them a “genuine domestic resistance?”
http://unama.unmissions.org/Portals/UNAMA/SG Reports/110623 SG report June 2011.pdf

This video show the brutality and real face of Taliban:

Is this the face of a “genuine domestic resistance?”. Please also watch the following video of local Afghans. They are residents of Daikondi. They are revolting against Taliban because Taliban were not allowing services. The Taliban were also not allowing teachers to teach their students. The Taliban did not want their country to develop; because, in the words of these residents, they wanted the people of Afghanistan to live like slaves. “But we refuse to live like slaves,” was their response. One resident quoted vowed to continue the fight to remove them from their area.

The real agenda of Taliban and Al-Qaida has been to enslave the populace through intimidation and murder and enforce their version of religion, where no one dares to oppose their ideology. Have we not seen this when they ruled Afghanistan and when they got a chance to administer their rule in Swat (under the agreement with the Pakistani government) at both instance they showed us their true color and created mayhem in the region? They have been tried and tested. We know that people on both sides of the border want to live a normal life without having to face fear or intimidation. It can only be achieved when these terrorists are eliminated, and that is a part of our efforts along with the Pakistani military and ANA. We are succeeding and soon peace will prevail.


CDR Bill Speaks
DET-United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Hello (insert appropriate swear word here)

Please don't lecture us on right and wrong when YOUR country has KILLED more people than any other in the world! What The EFF are u doing in Afghanistan/Iraq etc?

And How the hell can you justify drones when your own law states that it is illegal. So I hope your country keeps suffering and that you all go to hell. STOP interfering in PAKISTAN/IRAQ/Afghanistan and go and protect your own borders and stay the EFF out..

The word Peace coming out from your mouth is like the word Virgin coming out from a slut

Some random examples
(2008)
US warplanes 'bomb Afghan wedding party' - 2 DOZEN children among dead
(US warplanes 'bomb Afghan wedding party' - Asia, World - The Independent)

US bomb blunder kills 30 at Afghan wedding (2002)
US bomb blunder kills 30 at Afghan wedding | World news | The Guardian

Thousands of Innocents killed by American war
(Thousands of Innocents killed by American war... - Bangladesh.com Discussion Forum)

And how can you justify Guantamo and Abu Ghuraib And Bagram?

You have killed more innocents/children than saddam/taliban/alqaeda/IRA/Eta/Tamil/etc/etc/etc combined... and have gotten urself immunity from your OWN human rights courts and openly SUPPORT the terrorist ISRAEL

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@salmakh84

sorry but your rant is irrelevant to the thread, the allegations are true but please create a thread or look for one in the international or geopolitical section , not this one.
and please try to convey your message without profanity.

Think of the Prophet PBUH and his companion’s conduct with the enemies who had killed their loved ones but there was never use of any vulgar language from the Muslims.

Agree that American’s own human rights record in the conflict zones is not example ray but this fact can be stated with decency as well and that too in the right section.

thanks