Aljazeera: 'China is after us': Uighurs in Pakistan report intimidation

[Hamartia Antidote]

Are you sure you are not going to bomb us to stone age? Feed the gullible people with lies such as hi tech caves of tora bora and wmds in iraq. I don't think so.

How many off-topic tangents are you planning on going on with your whataboutism??

 

[lightoftruth]

Says a fvcking Indian. Why do you want our approval? Aren’t you the superpower and dog of USA? Doesn’t your Uyghur support suffice?

Why do you always have to beg Pakistan for support? We show you a big middle finger. You are all alone in this desperation.

You can't make a sentence even if your life depends on it.
No-one ,literally no-one gives two shits about your bankrupt country,but it is hilarious that the sole islamic nuclear power has his balls in his mouth when millions of muslims are getting crushed.

You are the poodle ,you retarded idiot.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

You can't make a sentence even if your life depends on it.
No-one ,literally no-one gives two shits about your bankrupt country,but it is hilarious that the sole islamic nuclear power has his balls in his mouth when millions of muslims are getting crushed.

You are the poodle ,you retarded idiot.

@Dubious

 

[valkyr_96]

How many off-topic tangents are you planning on going on with your whataboutism??

How many do you see? comprehension problem much? you falsely suggest that we have knack of send over people considered "worst of the worst" by your dumb politicians (was this not whataboutism?) when in fact the list was mostly fictitious and led to false imprisonment of many individuals some of which were let go only if they did not pursue legal action against America while the rest are still languishing in Gitmo because they won't let go. All this was sold with a lot of brouhaha. Feeling hurt, sod off!

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

Pakistanis in China seek answers about detained Uighur wives

(26 Sep 2018)

Two Pakistani men went to their embassy in Beijing on Wednesday to lobby for help reuniting with their wives, who they say are ethnic Uighurs blocked from leaving China in the latest example of how a sweeping crackdown has spilled across China's borders. "I am very, very unhappy," said Mirza Imran Baig, a 35-year-old Pakistani cosmetics trader. He added that Pakistan was "not interested" in helping him.

His wife, 33-year-old Malika Mamiti, was sent to a political indoctrination camp upon returning to China's far west Xinjiang region in May of 2017, Baig said. Such internment camps, which have alarmed a United Nations panel and the US government, are estimated to hold around 1 million Uighurs and other Muslim minorities. China denies their existence and maintains that current security measures are necessary for maintaining stability in a region that has previously seen ethnic unrest.

There are dozens of Pakistani men whose mostly Uighur Chinese wives are detained or unable to leave Xinjiang, according to Mian Shahid Ilyas, a Lahore-based businessman who has been tracking such cases. China's foreign ministry said Tuesday that it was not aware of the situation involving the Pakistani husbands, and reiterated its stance that its policies maintain "stability and lasting peace" in Xinjiang. Baig's wife has since been released from the internment camp but is confined to her hometown in a southwest part of the region. Her passport and the passport of their four-year-old daughter, also a Chinese citizen, were confiscated, Baig said.

Baig has visited the Pakistani Embassy in Beijing several times and met with the Pakistani Ambassador to China, Masood Khalid, in the hopes of helping his wife leave the country.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I would think the first people saying "Thank you Pakistan" would be fellow Muslims. If you think nobody is going to say anything...well that isn't a good sign.

No one said thank you for breaking up Soviet union and making America sole super power and a small matter of giving refugee to millions of Afghans! Been there done that.

 

[Feng Leng]

https://www.globalresearch.ca/infow...eyre-targeting-pakistan-pm-imran-khan/5665499

The Western Mainstream Media’s infowar about the true state of the anti-terrorist situation in Xinjiang failed after a group of diplomats and journalists were unprecedentedly allowed to visit some of the education and job-training facilities in the strategically located province, after which the weaponized narrative was tweaked to become one of “China buying off Pakistan’s silence”, which dishonestly portrays the Muslim Great Power’s pious leader as a religious hypocrite and dangerously risks provoking terrorist attacks against him and his government.

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

'China is after us': Uighurs in Pakistan report intimidation

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...dation-lament-china-ties-190113223009841.html

Members of Uighur Muslim community say Islamabad is not fighting for their rights as it keeps close ties with China.

Muhammad Hassan Abdul Hameed from the Uighur community runs a restaurant along with his brother in Rawalpindi's China Market [Saiyna Bashir/Al Jazeera]

On a cold winter evening, Mohammad Hassan Abdul Hameed, 34, walks towards his restaurant, past silk stores in the busy China Market in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.

He, like many others here, belongs to the persecuted Uighur community from the Xinjiang province of China.

Abdul Hameed's father arrived in Rawalpindi 50 years ago to work in a pilgrims' guesthouse intended for Uighurs heading to Saudi Arabia for the annual Hajj.

Today, the guesthouse sits abandoned in the market, not far from Abdul Hameed's restaurant.

According to members of the community, it was closed down at the request of China in 2006.

Uighurs have been migrating to Pakistan since the late 19th and early 20th centuries, some to work as traders and others escaping communist persecution.

Today, China's brutal crackdown on the community has made headlines around the world as up to three million Uighurs are believed to be held in so-called "re-education camps" where they are made to renounce Islam.

In Pakistan, there are around 2,000 Uighurs and for decades they have kept a low profile in the country - so much so that very few people are even aware of their presence.

But their presence here has not gone unnoticed by China, Pakistan's "iron brother" and a helping hand at a time of economic crisis. According to the community, China has started putting pressure on Pakistan to silence its critics.

"They want to finish off Uighurs," Abdul Hameed says, referring to the Chinese. "Here, we cannot do anything according to our wishes because China is after us."

Beijing has invested $62bn in the construction of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which will connect Kashgar in Xinjiang to the southern Gwadar port in Pakistan.

China has also promised financial aid to the country, which is desperate to sort out its economic woes.

Muhammad Hassan Abdul Hameed, left, says his family members in China are being persecuted [Saiyna Bashir/Al Jazeera]

Despite Pakistan frequently highlighting the plight of Muslim minorities across the globe, when it comes to Uighurs, Islamabad does not wish to anger its powerful neighbour.

The Uighurs in Pakistan know too well what goes on in China since many have family members who still reside in Xinjiang. Most have not been able to talk to them for the past two years because they have been held in the camps.

"From our family, 300 people are inside [the camps]," Abdul Hameed says. "Even my brother is inside."

Others at the China Market have similar stories.

Abdul Latif, a silk trader, has relatives in Xinjiang.

"There's no news about them," he says. "We can't call them. If they get a phone call from here, even if they don't pick it up, after a couple of hours the police will come and ask who called them, what their relationship to them is, how long they have known them, and only with this excuse, they will be picked up.

"If someone dies, there is no one to read the funeral prayers," he sighs.

"It is such injustice that even injustice itself becomes ashamed," Abdul Raheem, another trader, interjects, agitated.

Muhammad Adil Obaid from the Uighur community runs his own business in the China Market in Rawalpindi, Pakistan [Saiyna Bashir/Al Jazeera]

According to Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia programme at the Wilson Center, the Uighur community in Pakistan is of some concern for China, despite being minuscule in numbers.

"China knows that the plight of Uighurs has already generated major headlines and negatively impacted its global image. So, it doesn't want Uighurs in Pakistan, where they have more freedom to speak out, bringing more attention to an issue that Beijing wants kept quiet," he says.

Recently, news broke of the Uighur wives of Pakistani businessmen locked away in internment camps in China. Pakistan's inaction has infuriated the community, although it has not come as a surprise.

"Pakistan is the greatest friend [of China]. Higher than the skies, deeper than the oceans," Raheem says.

Some members of the community say they have started facing harassment and intimidation in Pakistan for being too vocal.

One of them is Abdul Rehman, who requested his real name not be used because of the risks to himself and his family members in China.

"The Chinese government has put everyone here after each other. Me after him, him after me and him after him. We are afraid of each other. We cannot talk openly," he says.

"The problem here is that there is pressure on the Pakistani government from China and the government of Pakistan puts pressure on us so that we wouldn't talk about [the issues of] Uighurs in the media here," Rehman says.

"The agencies here put pressure on us from their side. They pick us up. They have taken many to safe houses. I am one of them. I was there for 12 days last year," he continues in a hushed voice.

"They ask us about CPEC, what our opinion is about it. What opinion should we have about it?"

Abdul Raheem, right, a silk trader, is one of around 2,000 Uighurs in Pakistan [Saiyna Bashir/Al Jazeera]

According to Kugelman, CPEC is one of the main reasons that the community has now come under increasing pressure in Pakistan.

"Beijing has ample influence over many things in Pakistan, thanks to its frequent largesse and to the trust it enjoys in Islamabad. China's leverage has further intensified as it builds out CPEC, a major infrastructure project that's critically important to Pakistan," he says.

But China has also repeatedly raised alarm about what it calls "Uighur terrorists" who it believes are plotting attacks against it from the border areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

In 2015, Pakistan said "almost all" fighters had been eliminated in army operations.

According to Kugelman, the number of Uighur fighters is modest.

"Inflating the threat posed by Uighurs gives Beijing a useful pretext to crack down on them," he says.

Mohammad Umer Khan, founder of an organisation called Umer Uighur Trust in Rawalpindi, says the problems for him and other Uighurs in Pakistan have increased significantly in recent years.

"There is danger for every one [of us] in Pakistan now," he says. "Whoever starts saying I am Uighur, I am Turkistani, is in danger."

He says the problems started in 2006.

Men, who he thought were from Pakistan's intelligence agencies, would periodically pick him up and detain him for a day or two.

In 2010, Pakistani authorities closed down a school he had set up to teach the Uighur language to the community's children, he says.

"They used violence against me and they put my name on an ECL (exit control list) so I couldn't travel anywhere," Khan says. His name was finally removed from the list in 2014 after he took the matter to the Supreme Court.

About a year ago, he says, he was picked up again and held for around two weeks.

Khan says he was beaten severely which left permanent scars on his left arm. He was subsequently made to sign documents where he promised to no longer protest against China's policies.

Khan's account could not be verified because the Interior Ministry of Pakistan did not respond to Al Jazeera's repeated requests for comments.

"They say I am ruining the friendship between China and Pakistan," he says.

But Khan says the real issue is not with the Pakistani government. "Definitely [the Chinese] have a hand in it," he says.

The situation, say analysts, is unlikely to change for the better as long as China continues to hold sway in Pakistan.

"It's quite striking that while Pakistan often laments the plight of Rohingya, Syrian, Kashmiri, and Palestinian Muslims, you rarely hear Islamabad making statements in solidarity with Uighurs," Kugelman says."To be fair to Islamabad, it's not just Pakistan that's so hands off.

"The Muslim world on the whole, with a few exceptions, has taken a position of studied silence because of a desire not to upset a key global player that offers investments and other useful benefits."

The Uighurs are aware of this and are slowly starting to lose hope.

"We have become very disappointed with Muslim countries, especially Arab countries," Khan says. "After that, we had a lot of hopes from Turkey, but so far they haven't done anything that big. When it comes to Pakistan, we don't even have any hopes that they would raise their voice [for us]."

Despite the threats, Khan intends to continue speaking about his community's problems.

"I am not against Pakistan or CPEC. But injustice is being done to my nation, to my relatives. I speak for their rights," he says defiantly.

China wants more organs.

 

[Aryan0395]

Funny how when aljazeera writes anything against India, members of the forum consider as the word of god but when aljazeera writes about uyghurs, they call it propaganda to malign China

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Y should we..we not intrested in religious chumma from them.u are thekedar for all prosecuted muslims all over the world

and same goes for Afghanistan?

We play diplomacy for our benefit..we dont sell to the chinise or the arabs

And Pakistan does the same!

 

[Tokhme khar]

Any propaganda you hear in the western media regarding what Russia/ China/ Iran doing, just fukking ignore it!

Simple!

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Well then stop railroading people by arresting them and sending them to us:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/25/guantanamo-detainees-captured-pakistan-afghanistan

Only three of 116 Guantánamo detainees were captured by US forces
Bulk of remaining detainees – who US politicians refer to as ‘worst of the worst’ – were rounded up by Pakistani and Afghan spies, warlords and security services

On America's orders, Musharaf had ready admitted that in Pakistan, it was one of major things that brought his demise in Pakistani politics.

Biggest example is of Dr Afia Siddiqui!!!!!!!!

 

[Baby Leone]

for instance if we say that al jazera or the likes are making issues than what about the camps for Uighur muslims are they also fake?

i mean there must be something going on agianst Uighur muslims and i wonder why not even religious parties in Pakistan dont raise voice for them or they knew that its fake and if that so how?

havent even seen UN or other human rights champions in US or west raise voice for them.

or is it that the whole world want only Pakistan to raise voice for them?

 

[OIO]

for instance if we say that al jazera or the likes are making issues than what about the camps for Uighur muslims are they also fake?

i mean there must be something going on agianst Uighur muslims and i wonder why not even religious parties in Pakistan dont raise voice for them or they knew that its fake and if that so how?

havent even seen UN or other human rights champions in US or west raise voice for them.

or is it that the whole world want only Pakistan to raise voice for them?

what's going on are educations,
including language education, career education, law education, patriotism education.

 

[Feng Leng]

China wants more organs.

Gangadesh lacks brains and there is great demand, I hear.