Al Qaeda leader Abu Hafs al Shahri killed in Pakistan: claims US official

[praful]

WASHINGTON: US officials said on Thursday that al Qaeda’s chief of operations, Abu Hafs al Shahri was reportedly killed in Pakistan this week.
According to a US official who did not wish to be named, al Shahri’s death was labeled as a blow to al Qaeda’s core group present in Pakistan. According to the US official, al Shahri played a “key operational and administrative role for the group.
“Abu Hafs al Shahri’s death, said the official, will also pose a challenge for Ayman al Zawahiri, now al Qaeda’s leader after Osama Bin Laden’s death in Abbottabad in May. Speaking to The Express Tribune, the US official said that al Shahri was a contender to assume the group’s second in command Atiyah Abd al Rahman’s duties.
Al Shahri “coordinated al Qaeda’s anti-US plotting in the region, and worked closely with the Pakistani Taliban to carry out attacks inside Pakistan.”
The US official did not comment on the circumstances leading to al Shahri’s death, however earlier this week, the media reported that at least three people had been killed in a drone strike in North Waziristan on September 11.
On August 22, another US drone strike in North Waziristan led to the death of alQaeda’s second in command Atiyah Abd al Rahman.
Another senior US administration official confirmed to The Express Tribune that al Shahri had been killed in Waziristan earlier this week.
“Al Shahri’s death will further degrade al Qaeda’s ability to recover from the death last month of al Qaeda’s number two, Atiyah, because of his operations experience and connections within the group. Al Shahri’s death removes a key threat inside Pakistan, where he collaborated closely with Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan to conduct coordinated attacks.”

Al Qaeda leader Abu Hafs al Shahri killed in Pakistan: US official – The Express Tribune

 

[praful]

no doubt al qaeda top leadership along with zawahiri is in pakistan.

 

[Jango]

does not really make a big difference, one is killed, another one is always ready to take his place. The ideology and reasons behind it also need to be tackled, not just some people. This is not a government, that , kill the PM and it is finished, it is a fight against a different ideology.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

as per BBC:

Abd al-Rahman had reportedly been number two on a list of the five top militants in Afghanistan and Pakistan whom Washington and Islamabad most wanted to capture or kill.

BBC News - 'Al-Qaeda leader in Pakistan Abu Hafs al-Shahri killed'


in all honesty, it is just another name we've never even heard of.....if he posed a threat to the region, then it's a good thing he was struck down

however just whacking people from above isn't going to solve a greater problem which is more long-term.

 

[DV RULES]

as per BBC:




BBC News - 'Al-Qaeda leader in Pakistan Abu Hafs al-Shahri killed'


in all honesty, it is just another name we've never even heard of.....if he posed a threat to the region, then it's a good thing he was struck down

however just whacking people from above isn't going to solve a greater problem which is more long-term.

Worst scenario when in one region they are eliminating but in other region they are supporting them for own purpose. It can't be solution but phasing out as per requirement.

This region needs permanent solution and probably solution comes when US will establish permanent military bases in Afghanistan but till that time US's SECURITY IN DAMN THREAT as default.

Thanks to ZIA & Saudi Arabia for all this mess. (Off topic)

 

[Respect4Respect01]

all of those fake unknown people die everyday, nobody have ever heard of them,

usa has very bad script-writers.

 

[muse]

Lovely thread - The evil US kills off the central coordinator of Al=Qaida in Pakistan, and most Pakistanis are just not interested and those who are will only offer that they had not heard of this charcater, as if they had heard of all the others.

So, why the disconnect? Will the real Pakistan please stand up! - oh, wait, since Pakistanis are deliberately kept unclear about who is the enemy and why the enemy is the enemy, we must not expect much more - after all the US is a better enemy, it gives dollars while the Islamists offers heaven on earth, if you survive, that is.

 

[Jango]

well, muse, what we meant, or me specifically, was that killing these high profile is all well and good, and it does serve a good purpose, but, kill one guy, another is ready to take his place. So, you also have to tackle the ideology and the lower ranks.

 

[muse]

So, you also have to tackle the ideology and the lower ranks.

Well the drones can't do everything for Pakistan, Pakistan have to do somethings for themselves, and it seems logical that the first thing Pakistan ought to do is be clear about who and what is the enemy and WHY, unfortunately Pakistanis do not seem able or wiling to do that - and of course this begs the question, why are Pakistan unwilling to identify their enemy and why

 

[mitth]

[video]http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/16/no-confirmation-senior-al-qaeda-militant-dead-pakistan.html[/video]

 

[Don Jaguar]

No confirmation senior al Qaeda militant dead: Pakistan

No confirmation senior al Qaeda militant dead: Pakistan – The Express Tribune

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Lovely thread - The evil US kills off the central coordinator of Al=Qaida in Pakistan, and most Pakistanis are just not interested and those who are will only offer that they had not heard of this charcater, as if they had heard of all the others.

Sir, I must register a rather strong protest

I laud the killing itself. However common sense tells me that whacking them with hellfires is a failed strategy in the long-run because for every dude they whack, 3-4 will replace them. Of course your immediate reaction is -- why wait till they are replaced. Well hey, the Army is not sitting idly either. There have been mass arrests, there have been cleanup operations going on in the insurgency-belt for quite some time now. There is much work ahead. Whatever intel deficiencies we require -- we ought to request for intel. Though i am 99% sure that it is Pakistani intelligence and informants who have helped lead to many of these men.

Pakistanis are interested in seeing an end to the menace of terrorism. However in the minds of many Pakistanis, drone strokes and bomb blasts are 2 sides of the same coin. Both kill innocents, and this is a confirmed fact. Innocents being killed puts the government in a tricky position. The government instead choses to shoot themselves in the foot by never taking people into confidence.

So, why the disconnect? Will the real Pakistan please stand up! - oh, wait, since Pakistanis are deliberately kept unclear about who is the enemy and why the enemy is the enemy, we must not expect much more

I dont really agree with that statement. I think we can all agree that the people see the government as more of a problem than a solution. Besides, how can you ''know'' the enemy when they dress like civilians and blend in easily?

Using Muse logic, we should have Arabization-detectors and deploy them throughout the country.

after all the US is a better enemy, it gives dollars while the Islamists offers heaven on earth, if you survive, that is.

funny thing is, there is some truth to this statement.....i guess some people feel that giving//receiving money (to political parties which have their own militant wings in cities like Karachi) is better than working hard for it.




by the way, i really did never hear of this guy ''Al Shahri''


DG ISPR released a statement, saying the death is still yet to be confirmed.

 

[muse]

Sir, I must register a rather strong protest

Indeed, must you? Well lets look at the substance of your protest

common sense[/B] tells me that whacking them with hellfires is a failed strategy in the long-run because for every dude they whack, 3-4 will replace them. Of course your immediate reaction is -- why wait till they are replaced. Well hey, the Army is not sitting idly either. There have been mass arrests, there have been cleanup operations going on in the insurgency-belt for quite some time now. There is much work ahead. Whatever intel deficiencies we require -- we ought to request for intel. Though i am 99% sure that it is Pakistani intelligence and informants who have helped lead to many of these men.

Common sense, you say, perhaps you prefer the reality that Pakistan are now the suicide bombing capital of the world?? Nothing about common sense there?? Which do you prefer more? Suicide bombings or Drone attacks to kill the coordinators and managers and financiers?? As you are fan of common sense, which makes you rather uncommon in the Pakistani context, tell me does common sense have anything to say about the innocents involved int he deaths below :

In 303 suicide attacks carried out in almost every nook and corner of Pakistan 4,808 people were killed and 10,149 others injured in the decade to September 11, 2011, according to Ministry of Interior data.

Statistically speaking, that staggering death toll means that on average, suicide bombers have killed 480 people and injured 1,014 others every year across Pakistan since September 11, 2011 - though, post-9/11, the phenomenon first struck in 2002. Likewise, Pakistan has suffered an average 30 suicide bombings every year of the decade, or four attacks a month.

Pakistanis are interested in seeing an end to the menace of terrorism.

And evidence of this is reflected in their opposition to the Drone attacks targeting Islamists ??

I think we can all agree that the people see the government as more of a problem than a solution. Besides, how can you ''know'' the enemy when they dress like civilians and blend in easily?

Thank God for common sense then, since govt is part of the problem, the people of Pakistan have only the Islamist suiciders to look to for salvation - common sense, you say -- and of course you would also have us believe that the substance of "knowing" the enemy is by their clothing - indeed you cup of common sense runeth over and risks being the cup of nonsense.

Using Muse logic, we should have Arabization-detectors and deploy them throughout the country.

Common sense seems to have struck again - "arabization" thread seems to have left a mark on your psyche and effected the common sense you find useful - and that is good, because it is.

So, AZ, have acknowledged your protest, reviewed it, I can in good conscience dismiss your protest as "frivolous" - I encourage you to seriously consider the dimension of the problem we face and given the tools available to deal it the problem, how best we may do so - protest less, identify with solutions not our enemies.

 

[muse]

Duplicate..... some sort of database error

 

[Durrak]

Why everyone is dying in Pakistan