Al-Khalid tank (Type 90-IIM / MBT-2000) Information Pool

[smarthief]

Dont believe everything in the media.. look what good that has brought to us..or for that matter our neighbours.

valid point .... things should be improved day by day

 

[farhan_9909]

It seems like AL KHALID II is all set to roll out soon.

Though china's Don't have any 1200hp engine but rather 1300HP.
Considering a 1300HP engine we can assume that the Al khalid II indeed would have crossed the 50tons benchmark and may weighs around 52-53tons

Experts: Missile Test Firing Shows Development Complete
Nov. 6, 2013 - 06:07PM |
By USMAN ANSARI

Pakistan's army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani was onhand to witness the test of Pakistan's Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as 'Nasr,' on Oct. 5. (Aamir Qureshi / Getty Images)
ISLAMABAD — The Oct. 5 test of Pakistan’s Hatf-IX/Vengeance-IX missile, otherwise known as ‘Nasr,’ shows its development has been completed and the command-and-control systems are in place, allowing it to be deployed, say analysts.

A press release by the military’s Inter Service Public Relations (ISPR) media branch stated the successful test was “conducted with successive launches of 4 x missiles (salvo) from a state of the art multi tube launcher.”

Nasr is a mobile, quick-reaction, four-round weapon system capable of delivering its nuclear-armed, short-range ballistic missiles up to 60 kilometers.

The test was witnessed by the Chief of the Army Staff, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kiyani; the director general of the Strategic Plans Division (which handles all aspects of the non-conventional program) Lt. Gen Khalid Ahmad Kidwai; and the chairman of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (which designed the Nasr missile system), Muhammad Irfan Burney.

Mansoor Ahmed from Quaid-e-Azam University’s Department of Defence and Strategic Studies, who specializes in Pakistan’s national deterrent and delivery program, says the test signified the commitment to enhancing the Nasr’s effectiveness, but that two aspects stand out.

“It was the second test of a salvo fired from a four-round launcher, and its in-flight maneuver capability is being improved to defeat potential Indian missile defenses against artillery rockets and short-range ballistic missiles, such as the Israeli Iron Dome system,” he said.

Ahmed said this means Nasr has “passed the initial R&D phase and has been accepted and possibly been inducted into service by the Pakistan Army’s Strategic Forces.”

The ISPR statement’s mention of full-spectrum deterrence at tactical and strategic level, Ahmed believes, means the Nasr missile system has been “fully integrated into the centralized command-and-control structure through round the clock situational awareness in a digitized network centric environment to decision makers at National Command Center.”

Nasr is obviously India-specific, he said, and the salvo launch capability is a key ability in stopping Indian armored thrusts into Pakistani territory.

“The salvo launch demonstrates that Pakistan is steadily improving its counterforce capabilities against Indian armored thrusts as part of the Indian ‘Cold Start’ doctrine with the option of using low-yield, boosted fission, plutonium warheads in the possible range of 0.5 to 5 kilotons in case of a breakdown of conventional defenses,” he said.

It also “implies Pakistan has fully integrated the concept,and procedures to employ tactical nuclear weapons when, and if, required against the enemy, as part of its flexible force posture in the face of emerging and evolving threats,” says Ahmed.

Pakistan’s switch to the production of plutonium and stockpiling fissile material has been very topical, and Ahmed says the test show “Pakistan appears to have increased confidence in continuing to build sophisticated, miniaturized warheads for the Nasr missiles.

“Such tests are also designed re-enforce the message that Pakistan’s capabilities to produce miniaturized warheads for battlefield nuclear weapons have progressively matured,” Ahmed added.

However, Ahmed points out that “tactical nuclear weapons used to supplement conventional defenses would be only employed in case of deterrence failure.”

Given a paucity of funds as a result of Pakistan’s economic downturn, much of the military’s modernization plans have been postponed or even abandoned.

If the development of Nasr is complete, and if there are no other major non-conventional related programs in need of funds, it could mean finances could be freed up for conventional programs.

Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said Nasr’s development has not yet finished. However, there nevertheless could be some movement in bringing the conventional modernization programs back on track.

He highlights the Army’s tank fleet, which has seen mixed fortunes. The T-80UD upgrade appears to have been postponed, but further development of the Al-Khalid MBT has continued and development of the Al-Khalid II is nearing completion.

“The Al-Khalid II is to be equipped with a Chinese 1,200 HP diesel engine with a German or South Korean gear box, and the Army has also evaluated the Ukrainian Kombat tandem-warhead gun fired anti-tank guided missile,” he said.

Generally however, the government has recently released a small amount of “much needed procurement funds for all three services” that should keep their modernization/procurement programs alive until the economy can improve further allowing for deals to be finalized.

“The Army is exploring acquiring a new wheeled APC [the Serbian Lazar 2], a general utility helicopter, and an attack helicopter from Turkey or the USA. The Navy is hoping to finalize a deal to manufacture four more improved F-22P frigates plus, if enough funds are available, new subs from China and/or Germany.
“The Air Force, on the other hand, hopes to acquire more F-16s, seal a deal for J-10 aircraft from China, and more transport aircraft, plus a new SAM system also from China”, he said.

 

[snkhan]

A wonderful Tank of Pakistan.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

 

[Manticore]

Requirements met by al-khalid


KSA had in principle agreed to buy 150 Al-Khalid tanks worth $600 million. All trails are COMPLETED and some modification have already made to Al-Khalid. (current Al Khalid)

1- Trials at 55 C were successful with very fine dust not making any impediment on the engine and performance of the tank. (not many Indian Tanks have achieved that)

2- Turret power control now is all electrically controlled backed by manual control (KSA)

3- A new European Renk LSG 3000 transmission has been incorporated (KSA) (SESM 500 for Pak)

4- There is some type of ‘special’ armor has been installed. During trails this ‘special’ armor (on the hull and turret) tested through live firing which defeated all types of 120 & 125 mm tank projectiles. (PA & KSA) (this is the armor is was talking about)

5- Modifications have been completed which resulted in increasing the 125 mm rounds from 39 to 49

6- Ammo storage for 12.7 & 7.62 mm has increased from 1,000 to 1,500 and 4,000 to 7,100 rounds respectively, thus, making Al-Khalid the most heavily weaponized tank in the world.

7- The power pack (engine, transmission & cooling system) can be removed in 30 minutes and reinstalled in 35 minutes.

8- KSA Al-Khalid will be equipped with (PA also), IBMS (PA also), and active threat-protection system.



Peru's requirements were:

1) Capability of withstanding modern ammo fired by 120L55 from distances higher than 2000 meters.
2) Acceptable capability of resisting a Spike hit.
3) Capability of tracking and destroying a Leo-2A6 from 2800 meters in all weather conditions.
4) Delivery of tanks within a year.

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This is some info I had found on the net in the past- As members were discussing this stuff these days, Ive brought it to your attention
@al-Hasani @Yzd Khalifa @Arabian Legend

 

[Dazzler]

 

[Arsalan]

This is some info I had found on the net in the past- As members were discussing this stuff these days, Ive brought it to your attention
@al-Hasani @Yzd Khalifa @Arabian Legend[/quote]

It is really unfortunate that nothing materialized afterwards. More due to the Saudi Arabia's love for the US/EU machines then any short coming on Al Khalid's part.

 

[Informant]

This is some info I had found on the net in the past- As members were discussing this stuff these days, Ive brought it to your attention
@al-Hasani @Yzd Khalifa @Arabian Legend

It is really unfortunate that nothing materialized afterwards. More due to the Saudi Arabia's love for the US/EU machines then any short coming on Al Khalid's part.[/quote]

Their requirement was for a heavy tank. AK doesnt fall in that category plus AK doesnt have just as much protection.

 

[Bilal.]

It is really unfortunate that nothing materialized afterwards. More due to the Saudi Arabia's love for the US/EU machines then any short coming on Al Khalid's part.

Their requirement was for a heavy tank. AK doesnt fall in that category plus AK doesnt have just as much protection.[/quote]

The requirements might have shifted but they actually gave a set to upgrades that they required in AK(increased ammo carriage, etc that ended up being AK-1) if the requirement were not their, there won't be demos, user trials, planned trials in KSA and wish lists for upgrades.

 

[Dazzler]

Their requirement was for a heavy tank. AK doesnt fall in that category plus AK doesnt have just as much protection.

my friend, they had to replace their AMX fleet with an appropriate replacement, they already had M1A2, if they needed heavy beasts, why they never went for more Abrams or Leo-2Axxs? Its all politics, also, we held our noses high and were not interested in selling 40-50 pieces. So it didnt work out.

 

[Informant]

my friend, they had to replace their AMX fleet with an appropriate replacement, they already had M1A2, if they needed heavy beasts, why they never went for more Abrams or Leo-2Axxs? Its all politics, also, we held our noses high and were not interested in selling 40-50 pieces. So it didnt work out.

Didnt KSA go for the new Turk tank i forget the name or whatever that behemoth ( 65 tons, 18 tons more than AK ) is. KSA can and has the ability to attain top of the line stuff so they did. Plus they do need heavy tanks, their infrastructure can support it.

Plus the Altay's per unit price is $5.5 mil, whats the AK-I or AK-II unit price?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Didnt KSA go for the new Turk tank i forget the name or whatever that behemoth ( 65 tons, 18 tons more than AK ) is. KSA can and has the ability to attain top of the line stuff so they did. Plus they do need heavy tanks, their infrastructure can support it.

Altay is still in development .. Not to forget the reports tht the Turks received tot or help for its armour..

Also based on specs AK beats T-90 hands down .. Does tht mean it's not top of the line or inferior ?Amigo?

 

[Informant]

Altay is still in development .. Not to forget the reports tht the Turks received tot or help for its armour..

Also based on specs AK beats T-90 hands down .. Does tht mean it's not top of the line or inferior ?Amigo?

I know AK beats T-90s hands down in performance, my comparison was with French Leclerc and Altays. Armor protection in AK seems minimal.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I know AK beats T-90s hands down in performance, my comparison was with French Leclerc and Altays. Armor protection in AK seems minimal.

Sure go ahead .. But how can you compare a tank thts still under development with one thts in service?

As for minimum protection .. This issue has been discussed to death ..@Dazzler

As for price per unit .. Bangladeshis bought the watered down MBT-2000 version for almost 4 million $.. Compare tht to a AK or AK I .. Probably much more..

 

[Informant]

Sure go ahead .. But how can you compare a tank thts still under development with one thts in service?

As for minimum protection .. This issue has been discussed to death ..@Dazzler

As for price per unit .. Bangladeshis bought the watered down MBT-2000 version for almost 4 million $.. Compare tht to a AK or AK I .. Probably much more..

Altay has been procured by KSA at $5.5m a piece, sure it still needs time to complete trials.

Whats the AK resolution for video input in thermal imaging range? 1080p, 720p or lower?