Al Jazeera: Kashmir Meeting ends without consensus!

[war&peace]

Pakistan achieved three main goals.

1. Internationalisation of the issue. Kashmir is being discussed now every where.
2. Tried the diplomatic channel like a responsible nation and now if we take an action, no one can complain
3. It exposed who is your friend or not.

And the meeting did what exactly? Let's imagine you secure an interview in Google, you go there, you give it, you come back. Now was there a point to it unless you got what you needed?

Your analogy is sick and flawed, like always, but still yes the interviewee gets the exposure and gets to know the process & question is better prepared and can re-apply or apply somewhere else.

 

[Lincoln]

So analogy is sick and flawed, like always, but still yes the interviewee gets the exposure and gets to know the process & question is better prepared and can re-apply or apply somewhere else.

I just want to know what this meeting got us? Did UN issue any statement, did Russia, US, France issue any statement?

Why is a meeting, put forward by China only on Pakistan's request, being portrayed as some sort of a victory when we got nothing out of it?

Kashmir is dying, and here our prime minister is celebrating this useless of a meeting.

 

[Norwegian]

Keep worshipping this Government

And what results were achieved by worshiping Godfather, Patwari?

Not everybody is an idiot like you.

He is a Patwari. I have debated with him before.

 

[KeyBORED Warrior]

That's not an answer. That's stupidity.

You don't have a counter argument, so you will just say "5th Generation Warfare" and be done with it.



Yes, an assault in which we left our own for dead, and 95% of both Military and Civil leadership did not know about, that could've been a success. Brilliant.

And if UN is a toothless tiger, then why is the Army and Government invoking China to take the matter up at UNSC?

Are you for real? What was your great plan? Just go out all guns blazing? Dont you understand the idea of building a narrative first? Let say, for arguments sake, we went in iok and liberated it within a day, what will happen next? The same unsc will intervene and tell you to back off, go back to the loc, all the gains gone down the drain.

Now that we have taken the issue to unsc, and internationalized the conflict, we have shown alot of maturity and if we go into iok now, we can lay some of the blame on unsc that look, we warned you but you didnt pay heed. We have brought some legitimacy to our future 'act of aggression' in their eyes

 

[Lincoln]

And what results were achieved by worshiping Godfather, Patwari?


He is a Patwari. I have debated with him before.

Oh, get lost. I am not a Patwari, youthia. But this Government really has done nothing.

 

[Rakesh]

Frankly speaking, this is the first time I am seeing GOP in combative mode (diplomatically).
This is like ringing big bell of church in middle of the night. You may not have got attention of GOD, but at least you have waken the entire neighborhood.

 

[Lincoln]

Are you for real? What was your great plan? Just go out all guns blazing? Dont you understand the idea of building a narrative first? Let say, for arguments sake, we went in iok and liberated it within a day, what will happen next? The same unsc will intervene and tell you to back off, go back to the loc, all the gains gone down the drain.

Now that we have taken the issue to unsc, and internationalized the conflict, we have shown alot of maturity and if we go into iok now, we can lay some of the blame on unsc that look, we warned you but you didnt pay heed. We have brought some legitimacy to our future 'act of aggression' in their eyes

The issue has not internationalized. How many except China said it should be solved as per UN resolutions? Russia said it's 'better to not touch on certain issues.'

 

[Norwegian]

Kashmir is dying, and here our prime minister is celebrating this useless of a meeting.

While Kashmir was dying your useless Godfather was busy accommodating Modi on his grandchilds wedding

 

[Lincoln]

Frankly speaking, this is the first time I am seeing GOP in combative mode (diplomatically).
This is like ringing big bell of church in middle of the night. You may not have got attention of GOD, but at least you have waken the entire neighborhood.

That's all fine and good, I appreciate it. But I hate the fact that the Government is manipulating people into thinking that a meeting we got nothing out of is somehow a victory.

 

[war&peace]

I just want to know what this meeting got us? Did UN issue any statement, did Russia, US, France issue any statement?

Why is a meeting, put forward by China only on Pakistan's request, being portrayed as some sort of a victory when we got nothing out of it?

Kashmir is dying, and here our prime minister is celebrating this useless of a meeting.

Read my post again as I updated

 

[Lincoln]

While Kashmir was dying your useless Godfather was busy accommodating Modi on his grandchilds wedding
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Don't forget your daddy Imran was busy phoning Modi, inviting Modi, writing for love letters to Modi, hoping for Modi to win elections.

 

[Lahorie]

Fact of the matter is, there's no 'genocide' happening in Kashmir and never will, this fake narrative is not being bought by any other country in the world. Everyone knows Pakistan has vested interests in Kashmir and Afghanistna - the population of Sunni muslim kashmiri's have quadrupled in the 25 years of so called "Indian occupation".

If so, then ....

1. Why internet is shutdown in Kashmir?
2. Why international media is NOT allowed to operate freely in Indian Occupied Kashmir?
3. Why UN observers have been barred from monitoring situation in Indian Occupied Kashmir & CFL (previously LOC)?

Actions of Indian state & your words do NOT coincide.

 

[Norwegian]

But this Government really has done nothing

O really. Maybe Imran Khan should have invited Modi to Bani Gala on his sons wedding for a change?

 

[rak_987]

Russia was one of the states that requested convening of formal UN meet on KAshmir alongwith Britain, China while US and France called it bilateral issue.

Whatever Aljazeera reporter says or Russian diplomat tries to give ambigious statement. India knows Russia will side with China in UNSC
I was not happy with Imran Khan's decision to take it diplomatically, and we all know the only way to solve this is WAR.

India had envisaged that UNSC won't be able to convene on Kashmir. They sent there China expert foreign secretary Jaishankar with lucrative offers to Beijing if China stays mum on the issue.

Indian narrative is this is 'India's internal matter' and they have bulldozed all treaties and agreement s esp. good for us the Simla declaration 1972. Post UNSC meet, its diplomat was in a bind saying the same old crap 'we are ready to talk', 'Kashmir status not changed','talks according to Simla declaration', blah blah bakwaas. Moi\di in away has screwed his diplomatic team.

Indian diplomat had to accept on UN forum Kashmir is a bilateral matter as no one is Security Council supported India on internal matter excuse.

Pakistani diplomats are limited in their ability, it was the overseas public power that Imran Khan invoked on August 15 where Indians abroad felt the pressure on Kashmir. London, Tokyo, Seouil,, Malaysia Indians wereridiculed on the strets and their flag desecrated on their national day. On social media the hashtag August15blackday spread over the world on Indian Independence Day so much that twitter had to disable it from world trends.

Even after these setbacks India tries to play with information, they are experts on disinformation we need up our game there and not take the bait. Our liberal agent thugs take randian non-credible information as relevant news reports they need to be discredited. Indian media today around the world is completely discredited as they have to peddle propaganda for their Hindu Taliban state narrative. PAkistan public response in last week or so has been incredible to say the least. Mobilizing and shaming Indians around the world screwing their image worldwide. We have the ability to hit India hard if we want to .

 

[Lincoln]

O really. Maybe Imran Khan should have invited Modi to Bani Gala on his sons wedding for a change?

Relax, he gave a brigadier the PM house garden for wedding and Bollywood songs.