Al Jazeera: 40,000 Hong Kong protesters use China National Day to call for democracy

[egodoc222]

Democracy equals protest against China?

Sheldon logic. I understand

No...it is called common sense, which u desperately need!!

 

[El Sidd]

No...it is called common sense, which u desperately need!!

My desperation seems quite dear to you Shelly

 

[bbccdd1470]

I don't know.

Lately the Pakistani in me is pissed off at everyone mostly our politicians.

We are soooo isolated we value peace with everyone. India is a trouble maker though.

HK's issues are kind of complicated, and most foreign media reported about HK news are based on the Western narrative, or simply borrow from the Western media. For example, we can almost elect our Chief Executive but pan-democratic party vetoed it since it needs over 2/3 vote in our Legco. And the West always talk about China's violation of "One country and two systems", but do you know if we strictly follow "OCTS", we will never have any democratic reform until 2047. We now have more elected councillors than in 97, HK's democracy is actually progressing.
I don't want to name that country because I don't want worthless arguing with other member, but keep that in mind I love HK and do not want any bad thing happen to our city. So I have paid close attention on what is going on in HK, and I know thing that foreigner won't able to see in their news media.

 

[ito]

India deserves to be under that same thumb as your flawed democrazy have failed over and over.
1.2 billion people needs order out of chaos they are subjected to.

So as Malaysian you can enjoy democracy, but would like Chinese to suffer. Isn't cruel?

Or are you a Chinese CPC bot behind the Malaysian flag?

 

[El Sidd]

HK's issues is kind of complicated, and most foreign media reported about HK news are based on the Western narrative, or simply borrow from the Western media. For example, we can almost elect our Chief Executive but pan-democratic party vetoed it since it needs over 2/3 vote in our Legco. And the West always talk about China's violation of "One country and two systems", but do you know if we strictly follow "OCTS", we will never have any democratic reform until 2050. We now have more elected councillors than in 97, HK's democracy is actually progressing.
I don't want to name that country because I don't want worthless arguing with other member, but keep that in mind I love HK and do not want any bad thing happen to our city. So I have paid close attention on what is going on in HK, and I see thing that foreigner won't able to see in their news media.

It's an evolutionary process i guess

 

[bbccdd1470]

It's an evolutionary process i guess

Yes I agree with that but this is not a guarantee process, like in over 140 years under British's rule, we had no political right until the last term of HK governor.

 

[rambro]

So as Malaysian you can enjoy democracy, but would like Chinese to suffer. Isn't cruel?

Or are you a Chinese CPC bot behind the Malaysian flag?

Suffer? how so? Their common folks are happy, well fed, have jobs, awesome infra, good life miles better than malaysians and malaysia is definitely better than india in terms of quality of life, u do the math.

Democrazy have failed malaysians too but that is another story.

Are u really an indian? you seem to like embarrassing your own country.
Not acknowledging domestic issues instead of fixing it which you know what those are, from where i come from it is called treason.

Me being a CPC? well just because my flag looks like a US flag doesnt mean i will blindly support
Check with mods, they can see where im connecting from.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

HK deserves democracy. Actually whole China need democracy. You cannot keep 1.4 billion people under the thumb forever.

That's a harsh thing to say. no one deserves democracy

 

[ito]

Suffer? how so? Their common folks are happy, well fed, have jobs, awesome infra, good life miles better than malaysians and malaysia is definitely better than india in terms of quality of life, u do the math.

Democrazy have failed malaysians too but that is another story.

Are u really an indian? you seem to like embarrassing your own country.
Not acknowledging domestic issues instead of fixing it which you know what those are, from where i come from it is called treason.

Me being a CPC? well just because my flag looks like a US flag doesnt mean i will blindly support
Check with mods, they can see where im connecting from.

It is the people that fail the democracy not the other way. In any other system like authoritarian, it is the system that fail the people. No wonder, HK people are against China. Democracy, however flawed it may be, it gives the power to people to rule themselves. That is the only way forward. Any other system is inferior. If west is west it is because of democracy.

As on you being Malaysian, my suggestion is not to poke your nose where you doesn't matter. India and China doesn't concern you. If you keep on commenting on issues on India and China, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that you are a CPC bot.

That's a harsh thing to say. no one deserves democracy

Even slaves doesn't deserve authoritarianism...forget about others.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Even slaves doesn't deserve authoritarianism...forget about others.

Are indians still proud of their "democracy" ?

 

[rambro]

It is the people that fail the democracy not the other way. In any other system like authoritarian, it is the system that fail the people. No wonder, HK people are against China. Democracy, however flawed it may be, it gives the power to people to rule themselves. That is the only way forward. Any other system is inferior. If west is west it is because of democracy.

As on you being Malaysian, my suggestion is not to poke your nose where you doesn't matter. India and China doesn't concern you. If you keep on commenting on issues on India and China, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that you are a CPC bot.



Even slaves doesn't deserve authoritarianism...forget about others.

This is a free forum, chill that tone of yours.

Anyway china affairs is none of your concern too.

Hk against china? That is only your wishful thinking.

 

[beijingwalker]

Nothing lasts forever, western style democracy is declining fast, it's old enough, what it is going through is a natural death.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Nothing lasts forever

Countries are turning into democratic form. If what you said is true, communism in China will not last for long.

Actually the communism is having a slow death around the world.

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Now don't tell me China is not really communist, it's some Taoist stuff.


And democracy went from

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[beijingwalker]

Countries are turning into democratic form. If what you said is true, communism in China will not last for long.

Actually the communism is having a slow death around the world.

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Now don't tell me China is not really communist, it's some Taoist stuff.


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We we have is a new system we created, barely 40 years old, full of life and energy, way better than centuries old western style democracy

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

We we have is a new system we created, barely 40 years old, full of life and energy, way better than centuries old western style democracy

Hey we tried to tell you that the system implemented by Mao was a failure but you did it anyway. Too bad it took you decades to figure that out.