Aircraft carrier is a glorified training ship per NY times article

[lkozhi]

we should invest in subs. aircraft careers are thing of the past. If u have aircraft career only thing u will end up doing is hiding it because u dont want enemy blasting it and making big headlines. Its only use is as a bait.
Note: What actually brought down the pakistan submarine to trap was admiral ordering up some extra tomatoes in Vizag market. .

 

[JayAtl]

Langley CVL-1/CVL-27 both took part in War period.

Lastly jayatl, you are not in Chinese Navy therefore you comments renders useless. There has been no propaganda on Chinese media they took it from your media that your AC in Russia is delayed by 5-7 months and certainly no huge hoopla about Chinese AC they let you assume its Training AC, No Navy spends billions on building AC from scratch for training.

Case closed; All Chinese members ignore the Troll who is unable to digest Chinese AC News. Talk to yourself.

Just because you bow on the alter of China does not make us go " yeah we will take their word for it". Let's see in the next 10 days if an aircraft is landed on this ship. For if they have aircraft's capable of doing so- in 10 days we should see it happening.
all celebration should be cleaned up by then...

 

[Zabaniyah]

Credibility gone because that 16 mark is a training ship designation by the Chinese? what does J15 an aircraft have to do with naval vessel designation used by the Chinese?

Why you twist everyone's words? Did I say that it is a fully combat capable carrier able to match a US one?

And how does it answer the question that China doesn't have an aircraft capable of landing on the carrier in the works? Nowhere have I seen that claim.
BBC News - China's first aircraft carrier enters service

don't believe mainstream media but believe state run propaganda media? okayyyyy - you do that

Shows you still haven't graduated high school.

Langley CVL-1/CVL-27 both took part in War period.

Lastly jayatl, you are not in Chinese Navy therefore you comments renders useless. There has been no propaganda on Chinese media they took it from your media that your AC in Russia is delayed by 5-7 months and certainly no huge hoopla about Chinese AC they let you assume its Training AC, No Navy spends billions on building AC from scratch for training.

Case closed; All Chinese members ignore the Troll who is unable to digest Chinese AC News. Talk to yourself.

It's a start really.

Operating a carrier is a whole different science altogether.

 

[Zabaniyah]

we should invest in subs. aircraft careers are thing of the past. If u have aircraft career only thing u will end up doing is hiding it because u dont want enemy blasting it and making big headlines. Its only use is as a bait.
Note: What actually brought down the pakistan submarine to trap was admiral ordering up some extra tomatoes in Vizag market. .

You do know that an AC is escorted by various vessels including submarines right? That's why they are called carrier groups
Carrier battle group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JayAtl]

Why you twist everyone's words? Did I say that it is a fully combat capable carrier able to match a US one?

And how does it answer the question that China doesn't have an aircraft capable of landing on the carrier in the works? Nowhere have I seen that claim.
BBC News - China's first aircraft carrier enters service



Shows you still haven't graduated high school.



It's a start really.

Operating a carrier is a whole different science altogether.

OH learned one from Bangla- if you are saying that it is a training ship too, then how is it different from what I said? All that roundabout of supposedly being so smart and you land right back to my claim. As it stands it is a training ship, incapable of having an aircraft land on it. That's all I said all along- and that this propaganda and image of it being an " real capable and ready AC" was their media propaganda.

 

[Transgress]

don't believe mainstream media but believe state run propaganda media? okayyyyy - you do that

Don't be ignorant, not everything spewed out by the Chinese media is propaganda and not everything spewed out by western media is "mainstream", they are both biased. The New York times is one of the heavier news agencies in terms of the bias scale, even Americans know this.

SteveLendmanBlog: The New York Times: America's Unofficial Propaganda Ministry
New York Times a ?Propaganda Megaphone? for War, Says Former Reporter

Or you can search "China", "Iran, "Russia", etc. etc. on the NYT and you'll see a pattern in terms of what kind of articles pop up.

 

[Juice]

J-15

Z-8 AEW

Z-9C

Got any photos of a carrier take-off or landing?

 

[Juice]

Truth remains. You had to get Russians to build it for you, while we do it ourselves. You have to purchase Mig-29K from Russians, while we build our own J-15.

Are you serious? You show photos of your Russian-built carrier in the same thread you chide the Indians for having Russian-built carriers?

 

[EzioAltaïr]

And there goes credibility

Have they ever heard of the carrier-based J-15? We have already seen prototype photos. It had been discussed here before.

And who are those Chinese military "experts"?

Never belief everything in the mainstream media guys. Especially military matters, unless of-course it is a specialized source - which NYT isn't.

Hate to break your heart mate, but J-15 is still just a prototype. It's coming only by 2016.

Truth remains. You had to get Russians to build it for you, while we do it ourselves. You have to purchase Mig-29K from Russians, while we build our own J-15.

J-15 is a prototype, and will be inducted by 2016. On the other hand, Naval LCA will be ready by next year, and deployed on Vikramaditya.

 

[Nefory]

Are you serious? You show photos of your Russian-built carrier in the same thread you chide the Indians for having Russian-built carriers?

By "build”, I think what he meant was “refurbish”. On the other hand, speaking of building an AC on their own, Indian are actually building their own AC. So as the Chinese.

 

[Juice]

Not just NYT...BBC is also quoting Chinese military as saying the purpose is for training. And as far as building a ship just for training....the Chinese didn't build it...they bought it.

 

[Nefory]

Hate to break your heart mate, but J-15 is still just a prototype. It's coming only by 2016.



J-15 is a prototype, and will be inducted by 2016. On the other hand, Naval LCA will be ready by next year, and deployed on Vikramaditya.

I don't know how you came to know when exactly J-15 will be inducted, so I'm not gonna comment on that. However, we'll see what goes on with NAVAL LCA, since I've heard "next year" for too many times, same as your INS Vikramaditya.

 

[EzioAltaïr]

I don't know how you came to know when exactly J-15 will be inducted, so I'm not gonna comment on that. However, we'll see what goes on with NAVAL LCA, since I've heard "next year" for too many times, same as your INS Vikramaditya.

A guy on wiki has sourced it with this article on aviation week, but it requires subscription, so I can't read it.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_04_27_2011_p01-01-315782.xml

The Naval LCA? Here:

Navy places Rs 900-cr order for 6 Tejas LCA - Rediff.com India News

They don't place orders for prototypes.

First indigenous aircraft carrier to be launched next year: Navy chief: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

Verma said he had been assured by the DRDO that the LCA's naval variant would be ready for carrier trials by 2013 and for deployment on the Gorshkov/Vikramaditya as well as the IAC.

And the Vikramaditya is to be pressed into service next year. So.....?

 

[S10]

Not just NYT...BBC is also quoting Chinese military as saying the purpose is for training. And as far as building a ship just for training....the Chinese didn't build it...they bought it.

We bought an empty hull, and fitted everything inside including engine, radar and weapon systems. If you buy a automobile frame, do you call it buying a whole car?

Dumbass

 

[EzioAltaïr]

We bought an empty hull, and fitted everything inside including engine, radar and weapon systems. If you buy a automobile frame, do you call it buying a whole car?

Dumbass

And after all that effort, it's been made into a training ship?