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lol how about this

Once we bomb all the airfield in Vietnam, all your jets will be useless :haha::haha::haha:

There will be no bombing. There has been no fighting between China and Vietnam in over 28 years. This will be solved diplomatically, and hey, defense modernization will also develop for the region. Now, please, be nice....
 
Too confident and over-proud would make you blind about who and what is your real enemy are
 
@Nihonjin1051 It's the Viets who attack other Asians believing for whatever reason that they have some kind of natural right to rule Cambodia and dominate her neighbors. Now Viet is bragging about being able to destroy Taiwan's military (a truly delusional statement). Without this kind of twisted thinking Asia would be a much better place today. Vietnam simply needs to be reminded that it will be punished if they continue to be an unrepentant aggressor.
 
@Nihonjin1051 It's the Viets who attack other Asians believing for whatever reason that they have some kind of natural right to rule Cambodia and dominate her neighbors. Now Viet is bragging about being able to destroy Taiwan's military (a truly delusional statement). Without this kind of twisted thinking Asia would be a much better place today. Vietnam simply needs to be reminded that it will be punished if they continue to be an unrepentant aggressor.

Pay no need to some of overly nationalistic posts, then. There is no constructive conversation if all people are doing is making empty threats and grandiose military plans (as if we control our nations' armed forces, right? lol).

As for this thread --- sure, China (Taiwan and PRC) , indeed, have the numerical advantage, as well as qualitative advantage. This shear advantage is also poised to be used to address the greater strategic risks. China's massive air fleet (over 800) cannot be magically transported to the south and used solely for pulverizing Southeast Asia. These 800 + units are dispersed throughout China's vast military regions --- to patrol the border areas with Russia, Mongolia, the Koreas, Japan, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and lastly --- in the SCS. The same goes for Taiwan.

Theoretically speaking, and on paper, China wins here , hands down. But the 360 deg reality is much deeper than that. In addition -- ASEAN nations don't really need to maintain such a large air fleet because they are integrating (integrated). As an economic, political, cultural block -- ASEAN. Secondly, ASEAN's relationship with China is growing , as an entity, the bilateral trade between ASEAN and China has already hit $350 Billion in 2014. And that figure will continue to grow.

So , you have to be really optimistic about this. The potential is there.
 
With the Vietnam tiny spending budget, how can they maintain 48 aircraft and 6 kilo subs? Why Indonesia so weak in airpower? They should increase to at least 100 aircrafts to keep an edge on Vietnam.
 
With the Vietnam tiny spending budget, how can they maintain 48 aircraft and 6 kilo subs? Why Indonesia so weak in airpower? They should increase to at least 100 aircrafts to keep an edge on Vietnam.

Beside having 50 planes of 4 gen fighters in the end of 2015. We will also add three squadron more until 2024. Currently we have already decided to replace our old F-5 into Su 35 fighter, 16 planes. For the new three squadrons (48 planes), we dont know yet about the type of fighters, but I hope it should also be Su 35, with its 30 years air frame life time, long range operation and ability to load many missile and bombs, it can be a good one to accompany KFX/IFX fighters. So 114 fighters already (comprised of 4 and 4 ++ gen fighters)

After 2024, at least we are going to have 50 KFX/IFX (based on current plan). And we are not going to rush. Step by step buddy...........
 
@Nihonjin1051 It's the Viets who attack other Asians believing for whatever reason that they have some kind of natural right to rule Cambodia and dominate her neighbors. Now Viet is bragging about being able to destroy Taiwan's military (a truly delusional statement). Without this kind of twisted thinking Asia would be a much better place today. Vietnam simply needs to be reminded that it will be punished if they continue to be an unrepentant aggressor.
ask your taiwanese comrade martian. he is the one who constantly posts delusional statements.

by the way, I wonder why I should waste my time talking about taiwanese army. everybody knows taiwan is just a US´s dog. if the US asks you to jump, you will response with "how high?". you have no say in foreign policy.
 
Neither side is in any position to make requests of the other. Meanwhile Vietnam is just a little bitch waiting to get a slap.

I'm hoping Vietnam is recognized by ASEAN as the pariah state it is, and they distance themselves from it.
LOL you can´t deny it is the US that dictates your foreign policy. you are at mercy of the US. beware, should uncle sam become a bad mood one day, your days of independent country are over. perhaps you should cooperate closer with vietnam. it is the best way for you to deal with china.

he he he Asean to distance from vietnam? you are delusional. it is like asking vietnam to distance from china. impossible! :)
 
Your military is a joke. You'll all probably kill yourselves before you can accomplish anything.
PH just killed illegal TW fishermen, but 'supa powa' TWAF dare not do anything to retaliate the tragedy :pop:
 
With the Vietnam tiny spending budget, how can they maintain 48 aircraft and 6 kilo subs? Why Indonesia so weak in airpower? They should increase to at least 100 aircrafts to keep an edge on Vietnam.
officially we spend on defence as much money as the philippines. that is not a secret is that we get more for our money than the philippines. for example, we have a navy with corvettes, frigates and submarines, while none exists in the philippines. no need to mention we have a very modern coast guard. and the airforce? well, there is no comparison.

corruption exists everywhere, but corruption in the philippines seems worse than in vietnam.

by the way, our ground, air and navy is much stronger than indonesia.
 
Usless really? this from stupid arogant prick of keyboard warrior who just bash hey jerkward think before you type internet ethics 101 oh wait your chinese you dont know that am sorry but going back useless? hell no! underpowered is more like it tell me can you fight multiple civil wars without losing huge valuable territory they did all with old equipment and balls of steal so how come if they are useless? if they were then whole of Mindanao would be moro country now and the NPA would have won and this would be like maoist china in the 50s and all of this with second hand equipment too that takes balls and enginuity which the military has a lot and corruption too so how come if they are so usless as you so arrogantly claim? Or your just being a prick? hey duchbag think before you type you chinese formers here are really arrogant jerk who always do crap here no intelligent content just bull propaganda and supremacy nonsense and illgical content my trash bin has more usefull trash then majority ofbefore you call names you arrogant prick you should know that Philippines has since the error of our ways and currently modernizing our forces heck we be getting our new radars soon and missiles and first batch of FA50s will be coming soon so you can like your arrogant mainlander country pricks can jerk around but again may araw rin kayo and it coming.

officially we spend on defence as much money as the philippines. that is not a secret is that we get more for our money than the philippines. for example, we have a navy with corvettes, frigates and submarines, while none exists in the philippines. no need to mention we have a very modern coast guard. and the airforce? well, there is no comparison.

corruption exists everywhere, but corruption in the philippines seems worse than in vietnam.

by the way, our ground, air and navy is much stronger than indonesia.

We do have ships we have 150 crruently in service but majority of them are being upgraded sure we dont have submarines but then again your country is not fighting two civil wars at the same time
 
I write updates every once or two years on South China Sea military power by country. I wrote one a few years ago on CDF. It was time for an update.

I really like raw number like this. I still don't know much about the fuction of this forum so can you either message me or direct me to your past threads. Also can you do Singapore, Thailand, Australia, Japan, North and South Korea, United States, and India. How relevant will the 3rd generation planes be? Can you included the numbers for that for each country (no need to go into too detail). Also naval power too for all the countries you did plus the countries I ask for.

Sorry I ask for too much and thank you ahead of time. Globalfirepower is just erghhhh..

If not, then it is fine. I also kinda want to see the military analysis of the middle east. If you have any links, please share. Thank again.
 
I really like raw number like this. I still don't know much about the fuction of this forum so can you either message me or direct me to your past threads. Also can you do Singapore, Thailand, Australia, Japan, North and South Korea, United States, and India. How relevant will the 3rd generation planes be? Can you included the numbers for that for each country (no need to go into too detail). Also naval power too for all the countries you did plus the countries I ask for.

Sorry I ask for too much and thank you ahead of time. Globalfirepower is just erghhhh..

If not, then it is fine. I also kinda want to see the military analysis of the middle east. If you have any links, please share. Thank again.
I remember discussing this topic with "The Fianancier" a few years ago.

I don't know where it is, because I have written thousands of posts over the last six years.

If you have the time and inclination, feel free to look through the Vietnamese Defense section on the Chinese Defence Forum (CDF). I think it's in there somewhere. I tend to put most of my posts on CDF to avoid the trolls on PDF.

Link: Vietnam Defence
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On Asiawind, Liang1A has tallied Singapore's air force at 106 modern fourth-generation fighters.

Link: Asiawind.com • View topic - Vietnam's tiny $171 billion GDP means a tiny defense budget
 

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