Air Chief Marshal Raha to visit Sweden - LCA MK2 aka Gripen IN

[dadeechi]

Air Chief Marshal Raha to visit Sweden

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha will embark on a five-day visit to Sweden, starting tomorrow, to take the existing defence cooperation between the armed forces of the two countries to the next level.


During his stay at Sweden, from June 7 to 11, the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) will be calling on the Swedish Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist and is scheduled to hold bilateral discussion with the Supreme Commander of Swedish Armed Forces and the Chiefs of Staff of Army, Navy and Air Force.

The challenges faced by the Defence Forces of both the countries in the current world scenario, is expected to be discussed during these meetings.


The CAS will also be visiting a flying base of the Swedish Air Force and the production facilities of SAAB, Swedish aerospace and defence company, at Linkoping where Gripen aircraft are manufactured.

The visit assumes greater significance as it is taking place after the Swedish PM Stefan Lofvens February 2016 visit to India to attend the Def Expo-2016 held at Goa.

The Prime Ministers of both India and Sweden had also identified defence as one of the key areas of cooperation between the two countries during the visit

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...shal-raha-to-visit-sweden-116060601181_1.html

 

[dadeechi]

Indian Air Force Chief to Visit SAAB Production Facility in Sweden


Amid speculations that a second foreign company would be roped in to manufacture fighter aircraft under the Make in India project, India’s air force chief is preparing to visit production facilities of Swedish manufacturer SAAB.


According to India's Ministry of Defense, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, Chief of the Air Staff, will be visiting a flying base of the Swedish Air Force and the production facilities of SAAB at Linkoping where Gripen aircraft are manufactured. SAAB has offered to develop, manufacture and undertake the final assembly of its Gripen fighter jet in India with actual Transfer of Technology under the Make in India project.


Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha is on an official visit to Sweden from June 7. During his stay in Sweden he will be calling on the Swedish Defense Minister Peter Hultqvist and is scheduled to hold bilateral discussions with the Supreme Commander of Swedish Armed Forces and the Chiefs of Staff of the Army, Navy and Air Force.

The visit carries great significance as it is taking place after Swedish PM Stefan Lofven’s visit to India earlier this year in February to attend the Defense Expo-2016 held in Goa in southern India. Both India and Sweden identified defense as one of the key areas of cooperation during the visit.

Last month, in an interview to All India Radio, India's defense minister Manohar Parrikar said, “India will select a good fighter by the end of this fiscal year to be made domestically. It is not yet decided which aircraft it would be. It may be F18, Rafale, Eurofighter or Gripen. The decision in this regard will be taken in this fiscal year.”

Recently, SAAB unveiled the Gripen E advanced fighter aircraft and offered to manufacture it in India. However, apart from SAAB, other global giants like Lockheed Martin and Boeing are also keen on catering to the requirements of the Indian Air Force. Boeing and Lockheed Martin have proposed to manufacture the F/A-18 and F-16 respectively under the Make in India mission.

However, only last month, Defense Minister Parrikar said in Parliament, "The experience of flying against F-16 is what we require as we are not going to induct the F-16, at least; as of now."


http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160606/1040878791/india-air-force-saab.html

 

[kaykay]

Sweden would be one of the key partners for Tejas mk2.....

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sweden would be one of the key partners for Tejas mk2.....

That's good news and bad news. Do we really want to go the partner route for technology? Engines, maybe, but even there, learning to make good engines, even low-performance low-yield engines, should be a major goal. Not just screwdriver engineering but genuinely thought through and implemented good designs.

 

[raj76]

That's good news and bad news. Do we really want to go the partner route for technology? Engines, maybe, but even there, learning to make good engines, even low-performance low-yield engines, should be a major goal. Not just screwdriver engineering but genuinely thought through and implemented good designs.

i agree but sometimes u gotta look into current available resources and current demands of the scenario

 

[shree835]

This news confused me a lot ...Don know what is cooking. ... please someone help me to understand.

1. One side IAF says Gripen is not required. ...And IAF chief visiting Sweden for 5 days...In that visit Gripen production facility visit is largely highlighted.

2. In the same time India is making Tejas MK1-p and MK2 ... Both in progress....

If we are making Tejas MK2 then where is requirement for Gripen...Vice Versa.

Need help to understand those points.

 

[sathya]

^ same thoughts

India will keep Sweden interested for the next 5 years..

 

[4GTejasBVR]

Sweden would be one of the key partners for Tejas mk2.....

Only when we buy reasonable amount of their fighters. I guess we could buy gripin E and get tot for mk2... Not a bad idea. As our Tejas project will have repeated orders from our own airforce Navy... For the next 15-20 years

 

[anant_s]

I'm not sure, but this vague equating of LCA Mark 2 with Grippen is not correct. On paper, both fighters look to be sharing a lot of common hardware, but LCA Mk 2 is not Grippen.
If Sweden really wants to sell Grippen, the only space i can see is, future requirements of a single engine light weight fighter that will form the fleet for low cost point defence fighters.
It looks more and more likely that Rafale and MKI will be in role for Air superiority and multi role combat missions and therefore the only category where SAAB can get business is light weight fighters.
But all this leaves us with a question, in case government is showing genuine interest in Grippen ie Someone is convinced that LCA with AESA radar is best achievable scenario and therefore, parallel production of Grippen or similar platform is perhaps best course of action to meet fleet numbers.

@Abingdonboy @PARIKRAMA @Joe Shearer @nair

 

[Local_Legend]

According to India's Ministry of Defense, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, Chief of the Air Staff, will be visiting a flying base of the Swedish Air Force and the production facilities of SAAB at Linkoping where Gripen aircraft are manufactured. SAAB has offered to develop, manufacture and undertake the final assembly of its Gripen fighter jet in India with actual Transfer of Technology under the Make in India project.
Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha is on an official visit to Sweden from June 7. During his stay in Sweden he will be calling on the Swedish Defense Minister Peter Hultqvist and is scheduled to hold bilateral discussions with the Supreme Commander of Swedish Armed Forces and the Chiefs of Staff of the Army, Navy and Air Force.
The visit carries great significance as it is taking place after Swedish PM Stefan Lofven’s visit to India earlier this year in February to attend the Defense Expo-2016 held in Goa in southern India. Both India and Sweden identified defense as one of the key areas of cooperation during the visit.
Last month, in an interview to All India Radio, India's defense minister Manohar Parrikar said, “India will select a good fighter by the end of this fiscal year to be made domestically. It is not yet decided which aircraft it would be. It may be F-18, Rafale, Eurofighter or Gripen. The decision in this regard will be taken in this fiscal year.”
Recently, SAAB unveiled the Gripen E advanced fighter aircraft and offered to manufacture it in India. However, apart from SAAB, other global giants like Lockheed Martin and Boeing are also keen on catering to the requirements of the Indian Air Force. Boeing and Lockheed Martin have proposed to manufacture the F/A-18 and F-16 respectively under the Make in India mission.
However, only last month, Defense Minister Parrikar said in Parliament, "The experience of flying against F-16 is what we require as we are not going to induct the F-16, at least; as of now."

From IDN

 

[Local_Legend]

I don't think that Sweden has enough diplomatic muscle to push through Gripen against F-16 for second line of domestic fighters (first one being rafale, and there is possibility of a second line as alluded by @randomradio in Rafale sticky thread. and btw we have to mollify LM also). Best chance of SAAB is to partner LCA-mk2 program thus ensuring that any sale of mk-2 over Gripen would bring profits to SAAB too,thus eliminating mk-2 as a competitor of Gripen.

But they always comes up with good PR. remember the tag lines _ Grippen the Independent choice and the video - Gripen NG Sukhoi Su-35 Hunter Killer ?

 

[Sensei]

Why not a JV with HAL to build Tejas - MK2. Dassault for sure is not going to partner with HAL for Rafale.

 

[randomradio]

That's good news and bad news. Do we really want to go the partner route for technology?

SAAB has a lot of experience in materials and aerodynamics. From what we've heard about the Gripen-E, it has extremely high performance at subsonic speeds, exceeding other aircraft. That's something the IAF lacks right now.

Engines, maybe, but even there, learning to make good engines, even low-performance low-yield engines, should be a major goal. Not just screwdriver engineering but genuinely thought through and implemented good designs.

There are already programs for various engine designs, primarily for UAVs, including Kaveri. We will most likely be relying on the Americans for fighter jet engines.

 

[dadeechi]

This news confused me a lot ...Don know what is cooking. ... please someone help me to understand.

1. One side IAF says Gripen is not required. ...And IAF chief visiting Sweden for 5 days...In that visit Gripen production facility visit is largely highlighted.

2. In the same time India is making Tejas MK1-p and MK2 ... Both in progress....

If we are making Tejas MK2 then where is requirement for Gripen...Vice Versa.

Need help to understand those points.

I have been confirming this news of SAAB JV for 6 months now.

https://defence.pk/threads/saab-pit...ripen-fighter-jets.415201/page-3#post-8031213

https://defence.pk/threads/hal-saab-likely-to-upgrade-tejas.428969/

 

[Arsalan]

So what happens to the plans of making the MK2 indigenously?
Why going after Gripen? This comes as a surprise to me that IAF will be looking towards to Swedes for there LCA project specially with all the talks of MK1 being a technology test bed and platform to launch to an indigenous plane.