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Bro, Have you forgotten about 2000 election that George W bush won by cheating on Florida? I have not seen any investigation took place thus why are you suggestion such?

If you read up on the 2000 elections, you will see the Florida votes were recounted again and again. We have laws in place for a candidate to contest the votes. What laws are in place for Mousavi to contest the votes if he feels there is election fraud? Do you think the people of Iran have the right to know if this was a fair election?
 
If you read up on the 2000 elections, you will see the Florida votes were recounted again and again. We have laws in place for a candidate to contest the votes. What laws are in place for Mousavi to contest the votes if he feels there is election fraud? Do you think the people of Iran have the right to know if this was a fair election?

True yet Florida supreme court had to declare his presidency which is uncommon in electoral system. You also have to remember the fact that his brother was governor and Katherine Harris as secretary of the state. It was biased and rigged election and we all know it. In 2004 similar incident happened in Ohio.

Bottom line is American don't need to intervene in Iranian matter. People of Iran choose their leadership based on their interest.
 
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The Florida Elections were a sham there is no doubt about it.. Fox news was the first to actually declare the victory before the full results were even out..!! still doesn't mean the Iranian elections need to be looked into though
 
still doesn't mean the Iranian elections need to be looked into though


I don't disagree with you on this however if Iranian dislike Ahmadinejad than they will come out in mass number and protest all over Iran. Hence, only confined in suburb of Tehran isn't valid accusation as it can be staged by opposition.

Let see the future development that will take place in coming days.
 
Listen if the Iranians wish to throw out a regime or leader they have proven in the past they can and will. Truth is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is popular amongst many of the Iranian common people, rural areas, suburbs, and some urban areas and religious belts...

What is interesting to note is Western media news sources like Fox, CNN, and especially MSNBC are mainly showing news coverage of pro-Mousavi rally's and everyone wearing green shirts, green banners, green scarfs, and things like that. They continuously show the footage of large pro-Mousavi rallies.


But they don't really show how massive the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's rallies are! The coverage is completely one-sided here in the US.

The Ahmadinejad rallies are Olympic size. Anyways the main problem and frustration Iranians have is with inflation and economic issues. Recently, there was a poll conducted by a respected International source that Iranians DO NOT blame Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for their economic hardships. It appears they understand the 'cause and effect' West is sanctioning them over the Nuclear issue that even pro-Mousavi supporters are in support of!


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is standing up in defiance to the West. He's one of the few leaders that is outspoken, blunt, truthful, and I personally like it when he sends a strong message to the enemy.

Under his leadership Iran has played brilliantly chess-like diplomacy after the Iraq invasion, they played off the war into their favor.

Even under the Shah with US-UK backed support Iran could not manage to reach this level of regional strength.

I cannot remember a time in modern history when Iran's regional prowess has been so mighty...
 
True yet Florida supreme court had to declare his presidency which is uncommon in electoral system. You also have to remember the fact that his brother was governor and Katherine Harris as secretary of the state. It was biased and rigged election and we all know it. In 2004 similar incident happened in Ohio.

Bottom line is American don't need to intervene in Iranian matter. People of Iran choose their leadership based on their interest.

My point is that we have a system to challenge votes even if the outcome is not fair. I think all systems has flaws, and no politician likes to lose.

I agree with you 100%!! We should not get involved with the Iranian elections. This is up to the Iranian's to sort this out.:cheers:
 
Massive protests still going on over Ahmadinajad's Victory


Lets hope that all this soon ends... for the Best Minute by Minute coverage of whats happening visit.. :tsk:

Iran Updates (VIDEO): Live-Blogging The Uprising

I wasn't hoping the protests would turn this violent..



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America's plan to bring change in Iranian regime has bitten the dust. It was not a mere co-incidence of usurping of articles related to Iranian regime change in 1960s. Now they are trying to fix something totally out of their hand. Ahmedjinad win IMO, is also the handi-work of anti-Americans in Eurasia, than just the votes. America was sure that Ahmednijad would lose, but some one snubbed them pretty badly. And now they are snuffing & puffing like a street dog.
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This might well prove to be yet another bolt in America's coffin.
 
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A backer of Mir Hossein Mousavi helps evacuate an injured riot-police officer during riots in Tehran on June 13, 2009. (OLIVIER LABAN-MATTEI/AFP/Getty Images)

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Supporters of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and members of the Basij militia hurl stones towards supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi who are inside Tehran University on Sunday, June 14, 2009.
 
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Well at least its good to see that the people are still respecting the police who get wounded
 
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Gunfire Erupts at Iranian Pro-Reform Protests, At Least 1 Killed

Pro-government militia members fired on Iranian protesters during a massive demonstration over the country's hotly-disputed election, killing at least one person and wounding several others.

An Associated Press photographer saw one person shot dead and several others who appeared seriously wounded in Tehran's Azadi, or freedom, Square. The shooting came from a compound for volunteer militia linked to Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard.

Residents reported hearing gunfire in three districts of northern Tehran, Reuters reported.

Tens of thousands of Iranians took to the streets of Tehran Monday, defying a country-wide crackdown with protests against the of last week's presidential election, which declared Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner.

Chanting crowds, some wearing green campaign colors, greeted Mir Hossein Mousavi, the defeated candidate in Friday's election, as he slowly moved through the streets on the back of a car.

Security forces watched quietly with shields and batons at their sides.

Later, a group of demonstrators with fuel canisters set a small fire at the compound of a volunteer militia linked to Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard as the crowd dispersed from the square. As some tried to storm the building, people on the roof could be seen firing directly at the demonstrators at the northern edge of the square, away from the heart of the rally.

"There has been sporadic shooting out there... I can see people running here," a reporter from Iran's English-language Press TV told Reuters.

Both Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, another defeated candidate who appeared alongside him Monday, have lodged complaints that the vote was rigged.


Some of the results — which awarded a record-breaking 25 million votes and 63 percent of the electorate to Ahmadinejad — were announced before the ballot boxes had even been opened.

State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters Monday that the United States is concerned about allegations of ballot fraud.

Kelly described the U.S. government as "deeply troubled" by the events in Iran, taking a stronger stance than Vice President Biden did Sunday, casting doubt on the legitimacy of the election.

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When pressed by a reporter, Kelly declined to condemn Iranian security forces for their crackdown on street protesters. He said the U.S. knows too little about the conduct of the election to say for sure whether there was fraud.

The chanting demonstrators had defied an Interior Ministry ban and streamed into central Tehran — an outpouring for Mousavi that swelled as more poured from buildings and side streets.

The crowd — many wearing the trademark green color of Mousavi's campaign — was more than five miles long, and based on previous demonstrations in the square and surrounding streets, its size was estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands.

"I am ready to pay any price to materialize the ideals of you dear people," Mousavi said, speaking though a portable loudspeaker. "People feel their wisdom has been insulted. We have to pursue legal channels to regain our trampled rights and stop this last lie, and stand up to fraud and this astonishing charade."

Mousavi, wearing a gray striped shirt, said his solution was "canceling the result of this disputed election."

"This will have the least cost for our nation. Otherwise, nothing will remain of people's trust in the government and ruling system."

The crowd roared back: "Long live Mousavi."

One placard said, in English: "This is not election. This is selection." Other marchers held signs proclaiming "We want our vote!" and they raised their fingers in a V-for-victory salute.

"We want our president, not the one who was forced on us," said 28-year-old Sara, who gave only her first name because she feared reprisal from authorities.

Also on Monday, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered an investigation into allegations of election fraud, marking a stunning turnaround by the country's most powerful figure and offering hope to opposition forces who have waged street clashes to protest Ahmadinejad's re-election.

The decision came after Mousavi wrote a letter appealing to the Guardian Council and met Sunday with Khamenei, who holds almost limitless power over Iranian affairs. Such an election probe by the 12-member council is uncharted territory and it was not immediately clear how it would proceed nor how long it would take.

Election results must be authorized by the council, composed of clerics closely allied with the unelected supreme leader. All three of Ahmadinejad's challengers in the election — Mousavi and two others — have made public allegations of fraud after results showed the president winning by a 2-to-1 margin.

"Issues must be pursued through a legal channel," state TV quoted Khamenei as saying. The supreme leader said he has "insisted that the Guardian Council carefully probe this letter."
 
America's plan to bring change in Iranian regime has bitten the dust. It was not a mere co-incidence of usurping of articles related to Iranian regime change in 1960s. Now they are trying to fix something totally out of their hand. Ahmedjinad win IMO, is also the handi-work of anti-Americans in Eurasia, than just the votes. America was sure that Ahmednijad would lose, but some one snubbed them pretty badly. And now they are snuffing & puffing like a street dog.
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This might well prove to be yet another bolt in America's coffin.


I'm hoping you're right, there's something very sinister about these protests its almost like an revolution that replaced the Shah of Iran 30 years ago. I think the main plan for the US and Israel to replace the Iotollah and put some puppet for Iran in order to stop Iran to require Nukes.

This, makes it easy for both America and Israel to concentrate their attacks on one Nuclear Armed country in that region.

Inshallah Iran will be strong and come out of this new dilemma undefeated as well as emerging to be another nuclear power state.


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Iranians on the street causing violence failed to understand that US-Zion-EU axis is exploiting their act to undermine their long term national freedom. Did Iranian street anarchist think it through what they are asking for?? If their dream come true they will replace current system with a puppet dictator of US-Zion-EU axis. Perhaps, and Iraqi can explain to them how self destructive and repressive that regime could be. Forget about freedom, their life will be at mercy of Pentagon and M16.

Once dust settles, these western interferences will have serious consequences on US wish for any talk.

Perhaps, Obama had already conclude the eventuality that Iran nuclear ambition is non negotiable. And only thing they will try is regime change by planting people like Musavi and exploit people grievances. Grievances, people from any country have, specialy from developing one.
 

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