Ahmadi Doctor shot dead.3 others in Family injured

[HAIDER]

extremely disgusting act ....

 

[not_two]

You don't see any deception by the Ahmedis to malign Islam?

If you do not know then there will be no conflict ,if you know there will be no conflict at all, but when you pretend to know there is bound to conflict ..You are one of those pretending cases..

 

[pak-marine]

You don't see any deception by the Ahmedis to malign Islam?

3 of them dead today that doesnt look look like ahmedis maligning anyone to me

 

[Irfan Baloch]

India behind this terror killing, RAW has done this several times.

are you for real?
a local teenager has done the killing. almost all such targeted killings of Ahmedis have been done by locals who proudly stayed at the scene and were celebrated for their murderous act

Perhaps we need a council of scholars to public ally educate the people that killing is wrong and while we believe they, the qadianis, are not Muslim. It does not meaning killing them is acceptable.

perhaps we can also invite a scholar like Zakir Naik to talk to qadianis and ask them to return to Islam if they feel they are Muslims. Outreach should be made to educate the qadianis as well.

dont take it as an insult or an offence. just my opinion

unfortunately I dont find Zakir Nayak as a personality who can bring peace to Pakistan. he has deviant and violent views. he openly appreciates Osama and justifies terrorism of Al; Qaeda and follows the takfiri ideology.

I would rather ask someone pleasent and more peaceful like Molana Tariqq Jameel who enjoys respect across Muslims regardless of sects and even respected by non Muslims.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM there are still many comments victim blaming Ahmedis.

What justification does the 2nd amendment have for this murder? Why must we first preface that Ahmedis aren't Muslim before condemning their murders?

Why do the mods take such a lukewarm approach to bigots over here?

This goes for everyone - the forum has a clear policy in discussing religion/theology.

Whether you think Ahmadis are Muslim or not and why or why not has no place on this forum.

Either condemn the killings or support them, and in the latter case get banned and reported to the authorities.

 

[FuturePAF]

are you for real?
a local teenager has done the killing. almost all such targeted killings of Ahmedis have been done by locals who proudly stayed at the scene and were celebrated for their murderous act

dont take it as an insult or an offence. just my opinion

unfortunately I dont find Zakir Nayak as a personality who can bring peace to Pakistan. he has deviant and violent views. he openly appreciates Osama and justifies terrorism of Al; Qaeda and follows the takfiri ideology.

I would rather ask someone pleasent and more peaceful like Molana Tariqq Jameel who enjoys respect across Muslims regardless of sects and even respected by non Muslims.

Im not offended, on the contrary, I appreciate the constructive criticism. As a scholar as well as a Pakistani, I think Molana Tariqq Jameel would be a better choice, as more people would probably be more receptive to his methodology.

Alongside trying to persuade Qadianis who call themselves Muslim, their misunderstandings about Islam, I hope he would also educates those among the public that may be considering acts of vigilantism, that it is not acceptable behavior. That they don’t have the right to take the law into their own hands.

My apologies @AgNoStiC MuSliM for continuing this thread. As a defense forum, I agree, let’s leave religious matter out of this forum. Please close this thread as you see fit.

 

[achhu]

you are comfusing pakistanis with hindus in India

regards

only brainwashed 15 year old boys and uneducated security guards go killing innocent people . it is happening in your country .

 

[krash]

as of my information,
Ahmadi's Donot Accept that they are minority As declared in consitution of Pakistan.
Also, since they are declared monority but not accepting that Means they are not accepting Contstitution of Pakistan Which means No Rights to be granted Because all rights are granted as per Constitution which they donot accept.

Its more vicious than what people on keyboard think

That is the most idiotic statement, if there ever was one.

 

[untitled]

India behind this terror killing, RAW has done this several times.

If true, then the question is why is it that India is finding it so easy to get hold of useful idiots amongst Pakistanis? We all saw the press conference held by SMQ and DGISPR. How many Indian/Hindu names were on that list?

 

[Meengla]

these incidents keep on repeating because the main stream political parties are too affraid to condemn them and gave a narrative which might make them a target too and thats for a good reason. PPP's governor in Punjab was gunned down just for advocating justice for a wrongly accused person over blasphemy charges.

while we show Indians their face by highlighting the mob lynching on beef and love jihad related incidents we are shown the mirror over similar cases of religious terror faced by people from both minorities and majorities over religious intolerance and expression of faith through violence.

Very true.
I remember when Noam Chomsky visited India and Pakistan some years ago.. He said something like "well.. Both India and Pakistan are repressive societies ..."
Pakistan js a theocracy and India is a fake democracy but both countries are also mobocracies...
After all..cut from the same cloth ..

 

[Iltutmish]

On-Topic:
Killing random people over "religious" disputes (they are just a pretext) is just disgusting. There is a reason why Muslims lack behind in every matter of life, we are fine with the injustices in our own societies but are always the first to point fingers at others.

That is outright discrimination against Ahmadis then, and unfortunately it is part of Pakistan's laws.

Pakistan shouldn't mention their sect explicitly in our laws / constitution, that's an honour they don't deserve. But the ISLAMIC Republic of Pakistan that was founded in the name of ISLAM- I know we all wanted a brown England for people with Arabic and Persian names - and identifies with ISLAM should just give an official definition how to be qualified as Muslim.

Muslims have different opinions in every matter of life, how to pray, how to marry, how to conduct business and many other important things like "Is the husband obliged to buy his wife chocolate?". Ask 4 Mullahs and you will get 12 different answers, this is the situation right now. BUT for the love of god: EVERYONE (not only the evil Sunnis, literally everyone!) agrees that our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the final prophet.

Pakistan solution for Ahmadis/Qadianis: don't call yourself Muslims and you will be fine. And this is a good solution! Because every human being with a brain will tell you that they are Non-Muslims due to specific reasons!

Everyone has the right to call themselves what they wish.

Really? Can I call myself a policeman and arrest you (this is a punishable offense in Germany)? Can I falsely claim to be an American citizen? You know that the American government doesn't like that either. But everybody is allowed to say that he or she is Muslim?

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Pakistan's discriminatory laws against Ahmadis must be overturned.

What discrimination? Not being able to become PM? Pakistan is a poor country without a proper justice system and everybody else who is not a crony or a feudal lord will have the same problems, regardless of sect or family background.

A few years back an elderly lady was shot in the head at home in our neighborhood in Pakistan whilst reading Quran! You know what her "offense" was? She was the mother of a guy who refused to give his property away for free to his cousin. This is also a sad reality in Pakistan. No Dawn news, no Geo TV, no ARY what ever brought this up in the daily news.

On topic - there is NO justification for killing someone over religious differences.

Not every unlawful killing in Pakistan happening is an honour killing or sectarianism. The world and our liberal media outlets only care about latter ones.

If you want to copy Holy England, then copy its Act of Uniformity. England only became a super power after slipping away from the Vatican and unifying its people under one religion. But a religiously united Pakistan will not happen in my life time unfortunately.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

No coverage in main stream media

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

That is the most idiotic statement, if there ever was one.

would you care to explain how? or just gonna disappear

 

[Indus Pakistan]

That is outright discrimination against Ahmadis then, and unfortunately it is part of Pakistan's laws.

Everyone has the right to call themselves what they wish. Pakistan's discriminatory laws against Ahmadis must be overturned.

On topic - there is NO justification for killing someone over religious differences.

While many here support the screwing of Ahmedis in Pakistan but they cry foul about Islamaphobia in France. Sickening hypocracy.

 

[achhu]

While many here support the screwing of Ahmedis in Pakistan but they cry foul about Islamaphobia in France. Sickening hypocracy.

very true.