Ahiska Turks are denied turkish passports

[atatwolf]

Yahu o değilde şu Arınç itinin konuşması ve tavrı sinirime dokundu.

I'm sooooooooooo angry at the moment. He didn't only rejected him and didn't show him empathy, but he was rude and said he was a lair and walked away.

This son of a ***** Arinc is known for saying "if I was living in the east of Turkey I would also go to the mountains to fight"

 

[LegionnairE]

Başbakan yardımcıları böyle, onurdan şereften uzak biyokütle ısrafları
al arınçı vur hüseyin çeliğe
AKP li KÖPEK Hüseyin Çelik den SKANDAL "Birkaç Mehmet

"analar ağlamasın" diye açılım yapanlar bunlar, ne kadar samimi oldukları ortada.

In the video above one of the closest lieutenants of the prime minister is saying
"a few dead soldiers aren't worth re-opening the parliament"

 

[Inspector Spacetime]

This son of a ***** Arinc is known for saying "if I was living in the east of Turkey I would also go to the mountains to fight"

I am not trying to defend Bulent Arinc here, but I do feel obligated to respond to this particular part. Bulent Arinc didn't say it in that context. He said it more in the lines of, if he had experienced something terrible like a BDP member of Parliament, he would've potentially joined a terrorist organization. He was actually referring to the motives of why one would join a terrorist organization, and start solving problems from there.

Here is the exact quote in Turkish:

Ben bir BDP'li kadın milletvekiline çok kızıyordum, çok beddua ediyordum. Halen milletvekili bu insan ama onunla ilgili bir hatırayı dinledim, şimdi artık kızmıyorum. Çünkü 17 yaşındaki bir genç kızken Diyarbakır Cezaevi'nde o kadar ahlaksızca işkenceye maruz kalmış ki o kadar kendisini zorlamışlar ki ben de aklıma gelse dağa çıkardım. Çünkü Diyarbakır'dan cezaevinden çıkanların yarısından fazlası dağa gitti, yarısından fazlası da dağdakilere övgüler düzüyor. İnsanlara zulmederseniz, haksızlık, fena muamele yaparsanız bunun karşılığı sabır gösterenler de reddedenler de bunun hesabını sormaya kalkanlar da olabilir.

When it comes to the topic. I feel like TurAr said what needs to be said in post #9. Yuki's post #4 is also an interesting to read.

 

[Inspector Spacetime]

Başbakan yardımcıları böyle, onurdan şereften uzak biyokütle ısrafları
al arınçı vur hüseyin çeliğe
AKP li KÖPEK Hüseyin Çelik den SKANDAL "Birkaç Mehmet

"analar ağlamasın" diye açılım yapanlar bunlar, ne kadar samimi oldukları ortada.

In the video above one of the closest lieutenants of the prime minister is saying
"a few dead soldiers aren't worth re-opening the parliament"

I am not gonna be popular here by saying this but, I understand what Huseyin Celik is trying to say though. We can't let the PKK dictate our political agenda, we got our military to worry about PKK.

I guess he could've picked his words more carefully, but the point he is trying to make sounds quite reasonable.

 

[-SINAN-]

I am not gonna be popular here by saying this but, I understand what Huseyin Celik is trying to say though. We can't let the PKK dictate our political agenda, we got our military to worry about PKK.

I guess he could've picked his words more carefully, but the point he is trying to make sounds quite reasonable.

America raised hell on boston bombings. Our soldiers lives doesn't worth less than them. If our soldiers are being killed on daily basis, they should have act. 2012 summer was a disgrace. After giving lots martry one of this government officials said " War against Terror (Terörle mücadale) is going very well". I'm not forgetting these shamefull acts nor should you.

 

[Inspector Spacetime]

America raised hell on boston bombings. Our soldiers lives doesn't worth less than them. If our soldiers are being killed on daily basis, they should have act. 2012 summer was a disgrace. After giving lots martry one of this government officials said " War against Terror (Terörle mücadale) is going very well". I'm not forgetting these shamefull acts nor should you.

Ye but, you do understand that if we let terror dictate our political agenda, dictate our lives, than don't you think that terror is effectively reaching it's objective?

 

[LegionnairE]

Ye but, you do understand that if we let terror dictate our political agenda, dictate our lives, than don't you think that terror is effectively reaching it's objective?

FVCK political agenda. SOB's are talking about the national drink, I don't give a sh.t about abortion, I don't give a sh.t about headscarf I sure as hell don't give a sh.t about how short kılıçtaroğlu is..

Nothing else's more important than our soldiers lives, never forget that.

 

[-SINAN-]

Ye but, you do understand that if we let terror dictate our political agenda, dictate our lives, than don't you think that terror is effectively reaching it's objective?

Agreed, but first fight with Terror with all you got.

 

[Axa-]

Gine ne pot kirdi?

What did Arinc say?

 

[Ahiska]

how many ahiska turks have you ever met? They are more russian than turks..i know lot of them, in where i work or places i visit full of them, these guys are preferable for their "russian language skills" in tourism sector, and %90 of them are russian-asz lickers, i know russian lang. and have been witnessing how they can be dirty for money.. for example i listened a guide guy during his conversation with russian group for sure he didn't know what i understand him. First thing he said was "Do not trust turks" second one was "Do not talk to them if not necessary"... man, u eat this country's meal and sh!t on its plate... I warned and threated him to beat to death then started to hoot ;" abi abi bende türküm ben öz türküm"... hasssssiktir i said... leave aside their origin, they have capability to sell themselves for money.. no trustworthy people.. its better them go away

What are you talking about most Ahiska love Turkey and views like yours are not really helping anyone oh and think about it when we were killed and harassed Turkey didnt lift a finger for us so i think many ahiska were dissapointed from Turkey but not anyone is thinking like that
Oh and one thing more Ahiska were always neglected byTurkey it doesnt matter what happens to us we were fighting in WWI for Turkey against Russians and WWII for the soviets and we were both times screwed over.....

 

[Ahiska]

We are a destroyed nation so what do you think i know many turks who licks the ***** from kurds Armenians and Europeans andi dont say whole Turkey is bad so dont generalise

 

[-SINAN-]

We are a destroyed nation so what do you think i know many turks who licks the ***** from kurds Armenians and Europeans andi dont say whole Turkey is bad so dont generalise

Please choose your words carefully, we are a proud nation, bowed to no one for hudreds of years. No Turk licks anyone's @$$es if they do, then they are no Turks.

That said all Turks's are my brother, i see no difference in Ahiska Turks.

 

[LegionnairE]

Gentlemen, please calm down. @damm1t's personal experiences aren't necessarily the reflection of the majority. Instead of being judgmental we should ask to ourselves what did we do for Ahiska Turks. And what can be done now.

 

[T-123456]

What are you talking about most Ahiska love Turkey and views like yours are not really helping anyone oh and think about it when we were killed and harassed Turkey didnt lift a finger for us so i think many ahiska were dissapointed from Turkey but not anyone is thinking like that
Oh and one thing more Ahiska were always neglected byTurkey it doesnt matter what happens to us we were fighting in WWI for Turkey against Russians and WWII for the soviets and we were both times screwed over.....

You are right,many people dont know much about your history so lets inform them.
Its from wiki but better then nothing,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meskhetian_Turks
Another source;

Home - Ahiska Turks History

Gentlemen, please calm down. @damm1t's personal experiences aren't necessarily the reflection of the majority. Instead of being judgmental we should ask to ourselves what did we do for Ahiska Turks. And what can be done now.

We did nothing for them,we can make them feel at home.

 

[Ahiska]

Wikipedia is a good source but the problem is we are a dying nation we are split we must unite in one country so we wont die out.
We and the Volga germans were the only ones in the Udssr who were banned forever from their homelands even the people who sided with Nazi germany werent treated like that.
Even though we are an older nation then the ottomans.