Ahead of PM-Biden meet, India formally asks for ‘killer’ drones

[Hero786]

Do not forget the Chinese were involved long way back even before CPEC. This is how China helped Paistan and Mujahideen to defeat USSR, but no Pakistani media talks about it. Everyone was involved Gwadar is too strategicly important to be left alone access to warm waters for USSR . It's really funny how everyone got this war wrong, every country assumed someone else was up to something, I'm really surprised that it didn't snowball into something bigger. Russia Understand because He Did help them in 1971 Same Way we to them in 1980.

Russia, China have border issue at that time.
Now issues b/w them.

Yes, Pakistan was China long time ally.
After WW2, US and Russia+China are rival.

 

[Paji]

But your permanent interest will sink India.
Next US proxy is India against China.

China's population, economy and historical enemies are all in the east. For thousands of years, the Indian and Chinese civilizations co-existed peacefully. The 1962 war was also due to the recklessness of Nehru and some of his advisors, where he provoked China but did not prepare for war in the mistaken belief that China will not invade. Even today, very few people in either country consider the other as the primary enemy as opposed to a being a rival for geopolitical influence. Few Indians have any cultural identification with the Indian territory that China occupies in Aksai Chin because it is mostly barren, inhospitable land and the Indian territory China claims likewise has little importance for mainstream Han Chinese identity. There is no slogan in India like "Aksai Chin banega India". Each side will oppose any attempt to change the status quo by force and there will be skirmishes but the probability of a hot war on the Chinese frontier is low. China's primary military objectives are in the east and India's in the west.

Russia is now less rival of US, even there is indirectly war b/w them in Ukraine

Same was happend when Pakistan was US proxy.
Still facing mulahs terrorism. CIA product to defeat communism.

India has not set up military training camps for religious fundamentalists, unlike what Pakistan did. We are not creating any non-state actors. Even if India is a US proxy, the war will be an economic one where India will compete for investment that the US wants moved out of China. The situation is very different.

When US tries to enter neighbouring Vietnam, their thousands of air craft, helicopters, uav were destroyed. This was US records, but in reality there might be more losses.

If Indians tries this sh!t, Russians automatically involved due to communism and Pakistan due Chinese influence and their support in Pak-India wars.

Even in Ukraine war, China might be supporting Russia with financially.

Taiwan is the primary military target for China. Next will be Japan, which is a historical enemy of China and which occupied larger parts of China and committed many atrocities there. Korea has traditionally been under the Chinese sphere of influence and so has south east Asia. The US Pacific fleet is a thorn in Chinese ambitions. China has no reason to focus on fighting a war against India when it has so many other pressing problems unless India goes out of its way to provoke her. India stands to gain by technological, economic and military co-operation with the US and her allies without becoming a frontline state like Pakistan became.

 

[hembo]

Then you should be delighted. India will be dropped like a orphaned puppy !!!!!!
The problem is we do not see ourselves as orphaned puppies in need of rescue. We see ourselves as a regional power confident in our own abilities and potential and have absolutely no fears of being "dropped".

There are nations constantly in fear of being "dropped" and there are nations confident to form productive partnerships that are mutually beneficial.

The difference in perception here is due to the fact that not everyone understands that being partners doesn't mean that one has to be a lapdog for the other and have to abide by everything the other says. The mindset comes from the history. Cannot fathom the concept of equal and mutual partnerships.

 

[Puffin]

But your permanent interest will sink India.
Next US proxy is India against China.

Russia is now less rival of US, even there is indirectly war b/w them in Ukraine

Same was happend when Pakistan was US proxy.
Still facing mulahs terrorism. CIA product to defeat communism.

When US tries to enter neighbouring Vietnam, their thousands of air craft, helicopters, uav were destroyed. This was US records, but in reality there might be more losses.

If Indians tries this sh!t, Russians automatically involved due to communism and Pakistan due Chinese influence and their support in Pak-India wars.

Even in Ukraine war, China might be supporting Russia with financially.

No body can make sense from the Khichri your brain is mixing and cooking.

You leave India to Indians and their friends, they neither seek your "friendly" advice , nor wish to advise you on how to run a Chinese proxy state.

 

[kingQamaR]

The difference in perception here is due to the fact that not everyone understands that being partners doesn't mean that one has to be a lapdog for the other and have to abide by everything the other says. The mindset comes from the history. Cannot fathom the concept of equal and mutual partnerships.

As someone from Pashtun background i chuckled at this reply. You were the British Raj biggest willing serfs in history for over 300 hundred years. And you talk about mindset independence to us , go back to your embarrassing history read up on your imagining freedoms you talk about . the only time you’ve ever been free is when the Brits dumped you . In 1947.

 

[indushek]

As someone from Pashtun background i chuckled at this reply. You were the British Raj biggest willing serfs in history for over 300 hundred years. And you talk about mindset independence to us , go back to your embarrassing history read up on your imagining freedoms you talk about . the only time you’ve ever been free is when the Brits dumped you . In 1947.

This makes no sense

Past is there to learn lessons from, and is not a yard stick to judge someone's present or even future.

Many countries in history of world, suffered occupations and then rebuilt themselves.

 

[VkdIndian]

It appears that some jokers have misunderstood the title of this thread. They have started associating this “ask” from their own history, where they got a lot of equipment in the form of dole.

Hey friends, just chill. Don’t feel jealous. We aren’t asking for this equipment free of cost. We will pay top dollars for them.

 

[Hero786]

No body can make sense from the Khichri your brain is mixing and cooking.

You leave India to Indians and their friends, they neither seek your "friendly" advice , nor wish to advise you on how to run a Chinese proxy state.

Fake Flag Detected.

Its discussion group. lol

you like it or not

i write which i like. lol

any one like it or not, i do not care.

 

[Paji]

1) It does not matter, there is BJP, Nehru or any one in the govt.
Real issue is you have border disputes with China.

Indian is getting every weapon from US from few years especially.
Even if she want to keep the weapon for war with Pakistan. US will force to fight her war against China.

2) Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS are CIA product.
It does not matter you keep mullah or not. You have to fight for US or China (capitalism, communism).

Pakistani PM Liaquat Ali Khan went in US, Russia became angry. When Imran Khan went Russia, US became angry. Pakistan and India have no choice just to join any of group.
In Past, India was Russian proxy, Pakistan was US proxy.

In future, like if India war with China started, automatically Pakistan have to start war, this is from 75 years. Even if Pakistan not involve. Russia automatically will involve. China is India rival but China getting every weapons from Russia.

3) China will not attack Taiwan, until she declare her independence.
For Japan, S. Korea, there is N. Korea enough.

India is US next proxy.. Accept it or not.
Ukraine like Next war is comming...



Your history is not different.
India was Russian puppet.

Even Nehru was communist. Lol

Your missile name is even include "Moscow"

BrahMos

Brahman+Moscow

Lolz, India is not a sovereign country, as you people claim

It is very difficult to understand your English. Please write in Urdu if you are not fluent in English.

 

[One_Nation]

Allow me to pls explain..

Kindly reconcile ur information you idiot and record the sole factor of getting involved into war against Soviets was to save our own country by joining the west .. had we not done that on time then the next destination of that unbridled elephant was Pakistan .. that was a very wise and strategic decision to ditch USSR right there in Afghanistan. And how we got our Nukes. Then came 9/11, and Bin Ladan crisis, followed by the the final chapter to US and Pakistan relations defeat in Afghanistan for them. There are still lot of angry people on Capitol Hill settling scores with Islamabad by doing deals with Delhi to rub our noses that’s all fine and okay no problem with us. You might not see this yet , but you have more similarities of 80s Pakistan than you think. Replace the former USSR with present day danger China , and you are now playing the role of Pakistan as a frontline state ( Cold War lol)
The west will make you keep your word to them when it comes to China be careful the goodies you are getting from them. They not given them to play with Pakistan lol

Europeans are very good at messaging egos to make one feel on top of the world. It works every time. It is working on Indians easier than others.

 

[Puffin]

Europeans are very good at messaging egos to make one feel on top of the world. It works every time. It is working on Indians easier than others.

What you mean is that it always worked on you lot and always will.
No foreign troops will have bases in India no matter how much "messaging" they do.
No Indian soldier will fight for any other nation than India
We will ALWAYS PAY FOR EVERY WEAPON we hold in our arms and will be beholden to no other Nation.
There will be no selling of Indians for money and sending to Guantanamo
There will be no secret CIA or Blackwater drone bases on Indian soil.
No State dept flunky can ask for a change of govt or leader and expect to stay in his job.
No Indian generals and politicians setup home in foreign lands in his old age.
Finally We are not Pakistan

 

[kmc_chacko]

Pakistan did actually right helping Afghan people to confront USSR. Like you see in Ukrainian. Otherwise our own sovereignty wouldn't survive against communism invasion . All east European countries and east Germany enjoying independence due to the blood given by Afghans and Pakistani in Russian war over Afghanistan. I guess u Indians never thought of it like that. Oh well .. not to worry it happened long ago

Yes, Indeed Pakistan helped Afghan people in confronting USSR.

Difference between Afghan & Ukraine war is PA directly got involved in ground actions, whereas EU supplied equipment's & ammunition's to Ukraine and they didn't sent any boots on ground.

You guys exposed yourself with the Afghans war culture which is hurting you now and we Indians never thought of it like that.

Stop thinking US, USSR & EU conspired/conspiring against you as you are just a tool for them and your thinking that because of your blood they are safe is stupidity you guys are always fooled your elites they made deal with $$ and sent you to starve. Oh well .. not to worry it happened long ago

 

[vikan]

Fake Flag Detected.

Its discussion group. lol

you like it or not

i write which i like. lol

any one like it or not, i do not care.

Another poet detected, first in that garbage thread about UK carrier, and now one more here.

 

[nahtanbob]

Allow me to pls explain..

Kindly reconcile ur information you idiot and record the sole factor of getting involved into war against Soviets was to save our own country by joining the west .. had we not done that on time then the next destination of that unbridled elephant was Pakistan .. that was a very wise and strategic decision to ditch USSR right there in Afghanistan. And how we got our Nukes. Then came 9/11, and Bin Ladan crisis, followed by the the final chapter to US and Pakistan relations defeat in Afghanistan for them. There are still lot of angry people on Capitol Hill settling scores with Islamabad by doing deals with Delhi to rub our noses that’s all fine and okay no problem with us. You might not see this yet , but you have more similarities of 80s Pakistan than you think. Replace the former USSR with present day danger China , and you are now playing the role of Pakistan as a frontline state ( Cold War lol)
The west will make you keep your word to them when it comes to China be careful the goodies you are getting from them. They not given them to play with Pakistan lol

There is nothing wrong with playing sides in the cold war. All the foreign policy games do not compensate for piss poor internal development.

India is far ahead of Pakistan in political stability, administrative reforms and human resource development even during the cold war. Right now they are
racing ahead in physical infrastructure, financial strength and economic development.

 

[kingQamaR]

Yes, Indeed Pakistan helped Afghan people in confronting USSR.

Difference between Afghan & Ukraine war is PA directly got involved in ground actions, whereas EU supplied equipment's & ammunition's to Ukraine and they didn't sent any boots on ground.

You guys exposed yourself with the Afghans war culture which is hurting you now and we Indians never thought of it like that.

Stop thinking US, USSR & EU conspired/conspiring against you as you are just a tool for them and your thinking that because of your blood they are safe is stupidity you guys are always fooled your elites they made deal with $$ and sent you to starve. Oh well .. not to worry it happened long ago

you go try and shift as much blame on pakistan as you can when we all know it was Russians & americas fault Cold War . Pakistan did what any country would do when it faced threats it would have done the same as us irrespective of negative fall out after hostilities ended.