You can feel whatever you want. Subservient are those who are still taking what the elite are dishing out, not me. Anti-freedom are those who are resigned to their fate, not me.
And look, even you realize that unless something changes, Pakistan will remain subservient. We only disagree on what to do, that is all.
There is a further difference between what I say and you say. I want freedom, in its totality. The basic tenet of freedom is as long as my freedom does not impact your freedom, I'm free to do as I please.
Hence my positions have always been in support for cause of equality of Pakistanis - wrt to other religions like Ahmedis, Christians, Hindus and minor sects. These you almost always agree with. But when it comes to being free from subservience of America you're like OMG, blasphemy!!
What you're arguing for is just simply replacing either the elite or the Mullah for the Amreekan mai-baap.
For example, what did IK's dharnas achieve, the ones that you were so vociferous about?
IK's Dharnas are not the tor phor program you get from Mullah hooligans. Tameez-daar revolutions take their time. Has Occupy Wall Street ended Capitalism? People with guts are standing all over against tyranny, aap ho ke keh rahay ho, Nahi nahi nahi beta, gabbar ajayega, darro gabbar se.
I have never made that argument. If law and order continue to deteriorate at the rate they are, then there will be no need to bomb Pakistan. We will do the job of our destruction by own own hands.
Will you oppose any military action on Pakistani soil by any foreign force like the United States, come what may?
Yes. Then why has not all this been done? Forget FATA, the judge in the Qadri case was forced to leave the country.
Ek kaam karo, court pe drone hamla karwa doh.
You're so American about it. Why didn't this happen, bomb them. Why didn't you do this, bomb them. Let us fight our issues. It's like saying American universities trade in drugs, lets send drones there eventually the drug dealer would die in the process.
Why would I expect them to give up the fight? The FATA crowd will fight, and it is up to us to fight back. The better side will win. Simple. If the FATA crowd rule Lahore and Islamabad and Karachi, it won't be palatable to most of us, I assure you.
Excuse me fight back? They are not coming 14000 km to the US to fight with them and fight till when? Because you kill one guy his 10 kids are growing up with pent up anger ready to die in the cause. Your only solution is massive genocide of FATA, if you think you can fight your way out of this. Again so American.
Not at all. FATA is a lawless region because billions of dollars of drugs, arms and goods are smuggled through annually it to the benefit of a few. As long as they keep doing that instead of exporting their extremist ideology, why kill them?
Another American trait, just replace one vice for another and look away till it boils up into something else and what America is doing is not that actually, its going a step further. Its entangling FATA in a war with the rest of the Pakistan so your statement is correct but the execution is more like "As long as they keep killing Pakistanis and not us Americans why bother with a genocide"?
Oh, so now the great AA is out of counter arguments to resort to name calling? Violence is only the last resort, and its use, just like name calling, speaks of desperation, that is all.
Isn't this entire thread all about your character traits (and any others) and as we see them? You stating Pakistan has betrayed you by not living up to your standards? Your standards are a betrayal of Pakistan. This isn't name-calling. I have sufficient self-restraint to not go there.
More name calling speaks only of your desperation. I have not worshiped USA, and I have clearly said that it became #1 by decades of hard work. Saying that Pakistan needs to emulate that is no puja, mere good sense that I cannot discard as blithely as you due to blind zeal.
The first thing the US did was it stood up to the British and kicked em out. When it asserted that sort of independence and freedom working hard was within the realm of possibilities.
Today your US has imposed its henchman as our president and I think the military chief is their guy too. For hard towards what? They are all working hard towards American goals already.
... as opposed to the hundreds and disappeared killed by their own government?
... you mean the bonded warehouse where paperwork was held up for lack of a bribe?
... as opposed to the "good" Taliban?
... to go after terrorists that Pakistan itself would not attack?
... like Kashmir and "Khalistan"?
I thought you wanted sanctions so that Pakistan becomes independent?
All my positions have been correctly consistent and eminently logical. I have always been true to my origins. It is people like you who as blinded, and intent on remaining blinded, and leading a parade of fools into oblivion.
Consistently anti-Pakistan. Oh and "as opposed to" type arguments? You've just outlined that I'd resort to treachery when this happens. You think its okay that there is a point where treachery becomes justified - or worse these clearly treasonous acts are being sold to us as patriotic acts. Therein lies your disconnect with the rest of Pakistan.