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Afzal khan and treachery of Shivaji

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Yeah right.

In 1639, Afzal Khan had murdered Raja Kasturi Ranga after inviting him for a meeting where he could safely make a submission.[1] Therefore, Shivaji was wary of Afzal Khan's real intentions. When Afzal Khan sent his envoy Krishnaji Bhaskar to Shivaji, Shivaji solemnly appealed to him as a Hindu priest to tell him if Afzal Khan was making any treacherous plans. According to the Maratha chronicles, Krishnaji hinted that Afzal Khan harbored mischief. Shivaji then sent his own envoy Pantaji Gopinath to Afzal, agreeing to a meeting; Pantaji's real mission was to find out the strength of Afzal's forces. Pantaji bribed some officials of Afzal Khan to learn that he was planning an attack on Shivaji.

hmm So Afzal Khan himself was beghairat and without any honour. If your story is true then i can't blame Shivaji here. History should be looked from neutral point of view.

Shut the fck up @shan. I didnt open this thread to bash hindus. It is about particular persons in a particular incident. Muslims also committed treachery at various occasions

You forget to wrote that Afzal Khan not long before killed someone in similar fashion. I already told you verify your sources before i insult hindus, because your history knowledge is one sided and weak. As its turn out you are blaming Shivaji for something Afzal Khan did it before him.

I would put Shivaji act in revenge category.
 
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Shivaji killed an outsider who was trying to impose an outside government, religion and way of life into this land. Shivaji, though in some aspects not wise, was generally a national hero of this land.

Shivaji was not better then Afzal Khan, his land was Maharashtra. But when he gained power he looted and pillaged other states around him like any other invader. Him being hindu doesn't change that fact.
 
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hmm So Afzal Khan himself was beghairat and without any honour. If your story is true then i can't blame Shivaji here. History should be looked from neutral point of view.



You forget to wrote that Afzal Khan not long before killed someone in similar fashion. I already told you verify your sources before i insult hindus, because your history knowledge is one sided and weak. As its turn out you are blaming Shivaji for something Afzal Khan did it before him.

I would put Shivaji act in revenge category.
But muslim punjabis didnt produce even a single capable military general like afzal khan even though they have only 30% ASI genes according to harrapa sharrapa project. Why aryan ancestors of nuri nutt were spending their time on eating aloo parathas and dhai balay instead of sharpening their swords?
 
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But muslim punjabis didnt produce even a single capable military general like afzal khan even though they have only 30% ASI genes according to harrapa sharrapa project. Why aryan ancestors of nuri nutt were spending their time on eating aloo parathas and dhai balay instead of sharpening their swords?
Leh, yahaan bhi ASI ANI :hitwall:
 
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But muslim punjabis didnt produce even a single capable military general like afzal khan even though they have only 30% ASI genes according to harrapa sharrapa project. Why aryan ancestors of nuri nutt were spending their time on eating aloo parathas and dhai balay instead of sharpening their swords?

Punjabis lost basically after hindu shahis demise. But nothing is forever, according to Afghans like you punjabis have basically ruined you for ever :P You guys basically blame your misery on punjabis. And i never claimed aryans were indigenous, they were invaders.

On the other hand you proudly claimed Afghans pakhtuns have majority R1A1a just like Iranians. Which is untrue in case of iran and Afghanistan :D Its only Afghans who claim to be Aryan while being mulatos.

Check this out, Afghans are hybrid Mulato/mongloid. I would say Pakistan pakhtuns at least don't have mongloid genes.

Afghan Dataset | Harappa Ancestry Project
 
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Proud to be ethnic maratha who kicked out Mughals ....

Due to maratha warriors, we had Hindu rule in India after 300-400 yrs of Muslim rule (only later Mughals had Pan India presence)

Only if Marathas were united they could have kicked out British too..
 
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samja kar, I am making fun of his ASI ANI non-sense

Its not nonsense but to much to handle for some like you i guess. ANI-ASI are genetic terms. Good thing now you can also claim Mongol achievements :D
 
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@Nuri Natt Why are you mad bro . Have some cool aid and relax .

@Pak-one You are growing as a poster . Taking so much shyt from both Indians and Pakistanis and still trying to have a conversation .

WHat people don't understand is what shivaji is to them is what Afghan mujahideens were to afghans against soviets .
 
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@Pak-one You are growing as a poster . Taking so much shyt from both Indians and Pakistanis and still trying to have a conversation .

Basically, being Afghan he hates Pakistanis and tries to bond with Indians as close as possible for whatever it takes.
In this thread too he tries to portrays Pushtun generals being local of mainland Hindustan just like Marathas:hitwall: and evil Mughals are invaders and foreigners waring both Pushtuns & Marathas.

In his short vocabulary;

Mughals= Pakistan (outsiders)
Afghans&
Marathas= Afghanistan, India (Brothers):omghaha:

I request Indians to pls have a special treatment with @Pak-one bcz he is one of you:lol:
 
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Shivaji was not better then Afzal Khan, his land was Maharashtra. But when he gained power he looted and pillaged other states around him like any other invader. Him being hindu doesn't change that fact.

I never said this was a Hindu Vs Muslim thing. I said he defended the traditions of his land- whatever they were. That was a legitimate fight.
 
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Basically, being Afghan he hates Pakistanis and tries to bond with Indians as close as possible for whatever it takes.
In this thread too he tries to portrays Pushtun generals being local of mainland Hindustan just like Marathas:hitwall: and evil Mughals are invaders and foreigners waring both Pushtuns & Marathas.

In his short vocabulary;

Mughals= Pakistan (outsiders)
Afghans&
Marathas= Afghanistan, India (Brothers):omghaha:

I request Indians to pls have a special treatment with @Pak-one bcz he is one of you:lol:

Just read his OP again, the reason given for Afzal Khan not attacking first is that he was to big for Shivaji :lol: This guy is hilarious historian. Remind me off hindutva Indic, both change history to suite their agenda.

And yes he hate Mughals with passion.

I never said this was a Hindu Vs Muslim thing. I said he defended the traditions of his land- whatever they were. That was a legitimate fight.

Yes i agree with you on that.
 
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Not really ,pak-one is a passionate pashtun nationalist.I don't think he has any bias towards indians or pakistanis,but does seem to possess a hostility towards punjabis.Anyways impressive standing alone against 2 sided assault in this thread.Also has significant enthusiasm about history,though its limited to the exploits of his ethnicity.
 
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