Afzal Guru hanged

[karan.1970]

Your judiciary dont need any evidence to convict innocent people.

Our judiciary does not need the certification of performance from Pakistan (of all the countries)

 

[haviZsultan]

Please don't.. Most of the problems happend to muslims and other minorities all over the world is because of the crocodile tears of Ummah and minority lovers like you... Just leave us alone and we are fine here in India.. I am living along with lot of Hindus around here and I am very much comfortable with them..

I am replying because this is amusing me. There are no problems, everything is in mantra and karma as isro2222 will put it. I said I am not a religious minority. You didn't understand the post. Now understand this:

Sixth Sick Sheik's Sixth Sheep's Sick

Why you are bringing RSS here?? Going offtopic to offtopic here.. FYI Godse was an ex RSS guy who thought that RSS is not militant enough..

There never seems to be enough proof of anything in India... only proof that Afzal Guru is a terrorist.

Now you know why Afzal Guru is innocent.

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh was temporarily banned after the assasination of Gandhiji However, investigators could find no evidence that the RSS bureaucracy had formally sponsored or even knew of Godse's plot. The RSS ban was lifted by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru and Vallabhbhai Patel in 1949.[from Wiki]

But it still operates and one of its ex-members is always found guilty-

Kamal Chauhan a former RSS member confessed that he planted a bomb

What evidence? Links from Khalistan movment and Christian one newpaper? Yup, credible enough.. You can find even more credble links from rupee news

You deny Kandhamal riots took place. Fun Christian you are?

Gujrat was a riot between Hindus and Muslims, started with the burning of the Train carrying Hindus.. Don't say that Muslims were innocent there.. Both were equally responsible.. But I would like to see a link about what judge told..

I am not sure he was a judge or lawyer. He said it outside the courtroom. I will write an article on it someday and provide the link. In fact post it online? Happy?

Where did you see I am trying to deflect issues prevailing in my society?? I said you are free to crticize my country with valid evidence which you find very hard to provide..

Considering every valid evidence will be shown as evidence that is not valid... I have doubts how that will work.

 

[Emmie]

No need to read any of that nonsense.. You may decide to and that's your prerogative

The judiciary in India has taken a decision on this, which is good enough for us.. Thankfully, unlike our neighbor, our judiciary is not looking for excuses to let the terrorists go free..

I have to agree with you to some extent! Accused in Pakistan most of the times are acquitted but this acquittal has got more to do with the incompetency of our investigation agencies rather than judiciary's excuses. Investigators fail to substantiate persecution hence accused are exonerated. Verdicts are not made on the basis of collective conscience of our society! I wish in Pakistan, like in India, conscience had a role in conviction - half of the murderers would have been ended up in jail!

 

[SamantK]

who's lawyers?

my point is simple i will copy past from the write up here hopefully you will understand



Then there’s the back story. Like most surrendered militants Afzal was easy meat in Kashmir — a victim of torture, blackmail, extortion. In the larger scheme of things he was a nobody. Anyone who was really interested in solving the mystery of the Parliament Attack would have followed the dense trail of evidence that was on offer. No one did, thereby ensuring that the real authors of conspiracy will remain unidentified and uninvestigated

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/kashmir-war/234051-afzal-guru-hanged-18.html#ixzz2KUYLXySK

The lawyer of Afzal Guru... Kasab managed to change his lawyer because he thought he was not being correctly represented... Afzal Guru either choose not to or the facts did not hold much water.. Arundati misses that point.

 

[karan.1970]

I have to agree with you to some extent! Accused in Pakistan most of the times are acquitted but this acquittal has got more to do with the incompetency of our investigation agencies rather than judiciary's excuses. Investigators fail to substantiate persecution hence accused are exonerated. Verdicts are not made on the basis of collective conscience of our society! I wish in Pakistan, like in India, conscience had a role in conviction - half of the murderers would have been ended up in jail!

If it was based on collective conscience of the nation, it wouldnt have taken 7 years (till 2006) to convict this terrorist.. But yeah.. I get your point and I believe judiciary should reflect the conscience of the nation.. The formal structure should not become more important than the underlying principle..

 

[SamantK]

Quite likely! I read somewhere that the lawyer appointed to Afzal was a junior one and did not visit him even once in jail . He neither summoned any witness in Afzal's defence nor cross examined the witnesses of the prosecution.

As I told@Spring Onion, he could have asked for a different lawyer..

Maybe he knew the proof was enough to to tie him to those terrorists...

 

[Iggy]

I am replying because this is amusing me. There are no problems, everything is in mantra and karma as isro2222 will put it. I said I am not a religious minority. You didn't understand the post. .

Dude, you choose your country, we choose ours.. You made your decision.. Now please leave us alone.. We do not need our sympathy.. We are fine by our own..

There never seems to be enough proof of anything in India... only proof that Afzal Guru is a terrorist.

Now you know why Afzal Guru is innocent.

What about Abhinav Bharat members got arrested?? Is it because of the lack of evidence?

Did you even bothered to watch the video posted here?? He said he aided the terrorists.. Or is it too hard for you to understand what he is saying??

But it still operates and one of its ex-members is always found guilty-

Look, RSS is a Hindu Nationalist Organisation.. No one is denying that.. But for some members it is not millitant enough.. So they leave the organisation and found their own way.. How is RSS responsible for their action?

You deny Kandhamal riots took place. Fun Christian you are?

This is getting silliers now.. You are posting articles from Khalistan movement and Christian one which shows only one side and we wanted to take it as credible one?? And I told you already, we are not living in a perfect country, but comparing to many others, it is far better..

And I do not need your certification about what kind of Christian I am. For me nation comes first.. Religion is my private matter..

I am not sure he was a judge or lawyer. He said it outside the courtroom. I will write an article on it someday and provide the link. In fact post it online? Happy?

Considering every valid evidence will be shown as evidence that is not valid... I have doubts how that will work.

Super!!

It was bound to happen in the end

 

[JonAsad]

this guy was hanged because the elections are near- so now BJP's trump card of alleging Congress to be too soft on terrorist goes down the drain- A good political victory over the expense of an innocent life-

 

[Ammyy]

this guy was hanged because the elections are near- so now BJP's trump card of alleging Congress to be too soft on terrorist goes down the drain- A good political victory over the expense of an innocent life-

For me at the end terrorist reached to desired place. You can imagine whatever you want.

 

[karan.1970]

this guy was hanged because the elections are near- so now BJP's trump card of alleging Congress to be too soft on terrorist goes down the drain- A good political victory over the expense of an innocent life-

I always thought Pakistani history books were distorted.. Here it seems the english dictionary followed in Pakistan is also different from rest of the world. A person admitting on video about helping plan a terrorist strike for money is considered innocent.. Add to that in Pakistan, a citizen helping nab the most wanted terrorist in the world is jailed for treason.. No wonder all terrorists of the world make a bee line to shift their residence to Pakistan. Must be the safest place on earth for them

 

[Iggy]

Have to say.. it is easy for someone to kill in Pakistan.

But the guy will found it hard to convince others that he did it..

Look at Malala incident and now these

 

[third eye]

this guy was hanged because the elections are near- so now BJP's trump card of alleging Congress to be too soft on terrorist goes down the drain- A good political victory over the expense of an innocent life-

That the punishment awarded was to be carried out there is no doubt.

So that such thoughts do not come up in stray minds , there is a need to ensure that mercy petitions are disposed off within a time frame one way or anther. I feel 12 to 18 months would be a fair duration.

Lastly, while there is a sense of sadness on the loss of a life , it pales when seen with the diabolical acts and intent.

This man was not innocent.

 

[notsuperstitious]

All the believers here know he's gone to a better place. Yet they are complaining just for political point scoring.

 

[Emmie]

As I told@Spring Onion, he could have asked for a different lawyer..

Maybe he knew the proof was enough to to tie him to those terrorists...

Again quite likely! In the cited possibility, both the accused/convict and his lawyer must have been morons of highest degree. Even a third rated lawyer knows the difference between direct and indirect evidence - ethically, bearing professionalism in mind, lawyer should have counseled his client about the application of the evidences (indirect) in hand.

I believe nothing would have changed even if an eminent lawyer was defending him. Judges pass verdict on the basis of evidences - since evidences and conscience both were the core of verdict in this case so the outcome would have been more or less similar in all the settings.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

All the believers here know he's gone to a better place. Yet they are complaining just for political point scoring.

Well. he started from a better place and went to a better place? So that was his luck......