Does every successful country have its own 'car company'?
I was talking symbolically. If car industry is not an example you like, then you can pick any industry. Steel? Real Estate? Textiles? Chemical? Tourism?
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Any Solid example of any industry? I would like to know. Not intended as a pun, as you might assume my attitude to be.
Brands are either merging or being bought up by larger companies - by your yardstick Holland, Sweden and Switzerland would be 'failed states' because their car companies were unable to survive without being gobbled up by larger corporations from other nations, or because they never had ones to begin with.
Is there any need to compare Pakistan to Scandevian countries and Switzerland? Is there anything worthwhile comparison?
Pakistan has such a big population in comparison to these tiny countries, again I am mentioning, which do not need large corporations to support their little population.
Its a rather absurd line of logic you are pursuing.
Is it absurd to say that comparison between Finland and Pakistan cannot be done on these terms?
Pakistan may not have successful brands of its own in terms of car manufacturers, but it has a successful manufacturing and assembling sector.
Excellent.
And I didn't choke. But, when it comes to assembly lines of other country's companies, the 'Pakistani Businessmen' do not come into picture. Labourers and engineers do, 'indigenous businessmen' don't.
I disagree - just as there is no need for every country to have a successful auto company to not be declared a failed state
Again an assumption. I never said Pakistan to be a failed state. It is not.
If it is ranked 10 on Failed State Index then it does not mean that Pakistan is 10th most failed state. Rather it means that 171 other countries are 'less failed' than Pakistan, according to that index.
In my opinion there is no fail or pass state.
it is similarly not necessary that every country have corporations in the fortune 500 or X numbers of billionaires to be considered successful.
No its not. But its just a parameter.
It is not necessary to work hard if one is intelligent. But the fact that despite being good at brain he does no hard work, gives a parametric assumption of his ability.
Just like that saying on one hand that Pakistani businessmen are capable like any other businessmen in the world, and on the other hand saying that big indigenous businesses are not needed(or are absent), are contradictory.
If Pakistani businessmen are capable as you claim, then no one can stop them from making world-class companies.
Pakistan is 2.46% of world population.
Kindly don't compare it with countries comprising of only 0.1% of world population.
But still to make my point:-
Sweden - World class company - Saab.
Switzerland - Hub of world banking.
Finland - World's largest Cell-Phone maker - Nokia.
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Juts look at every sector of the economy - starting from the military and related nuclear sectors. Military applications are invariably the most expensive and high tech area given the stringent performance parameters - in that respect there has been R&D in the chemical sector (propellants, explosives, etc.) as well as metallurgy (armor, nuclear components, centrifuges etc.).
All things Military related. All of them.
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Any R&D except in military field?
While you dismiss Pakistan's achievement in detonating the bomb,
I never did.
realize that you don't get to that point without developing expertise in several key high tech industrial areas (some of which I mentioned).
That's when I wonder despite being so capable in military related R&D, what is holding Pakistan back in civilian and peace time R&D?
If you were not trying to equate Pakistan with Somalia and Afghanistan, you would not have tried to defend the conclusions of the clearly flawed 'failed states index'. You stand exposed on that count and are now dissembling to find a way out.
I clearly mentioned in the same post that Pakistan is better than Somalia and Afghanistan.
Achievements are meant to be broken - the point is that plenty of evidence has been presented documenting Pakistani achievements. You need to look beyond your anti-Pakistan agenda and bias to recognize that.
I have no anti-anyone agenda.
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I am just putting forward my views. I don't know what seemed anti-Pakistani to anyone. If it really were, then you have your Mod powers.
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But these views of mine are rational, and any person who understood its depth, even Pakistani, will stand by it.
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