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After Both Tanks Break Down, India Knocked Out Of International Drill

I can reply you in Kind.... But then that will bring me to the level of famous trolls in this forum ( I havent interacted much with you,)

Read those words carefully, and you will get the gist..... If you do not, ignore this post and move on ...... Samajne wala samaj jayega.....
Kuch B na Kaha Kuch Keh B gey,

Kuch Kehtey Kehtey Reh B gey.
Tapad se darr nahien lagta sahib, Payar se lagta hai lols.

See my signature got three negative in row from same person just speaking out my mind.
 
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actually, at beginning of the competition, the India was ahead, they run the Tank too hard, it causes the engine failure!

Which indicates that the Tankmen did not lose but the Tanks did lose. At the end of the day it is a team (Tankmen+Tanks) and the Indian team lost.
 
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Being heavy its just an excuse. Lobbies did same with Tejas, did same with Arjun or even with ISRO.
Test pilots of tejas were killed in doubtful conditions ? how ? ISRO scientist were killed ? how ?
None from govt spoke about it.
Test pilot killed ... Dont tell me that import lobby is so powerful that they can get a pilot murdered ... can you share some more details ?
 
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They will know once they get into it (war).

India's front line combat operation/attack would be spearheaded by T-90, the so called state-of-the-art tank.

Now I do not need any crystal ball help to find out who will prevail over whom in the impending India China war.

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Imagine, not one, but both the tanks were rendered inoperable.
In my day job, I'ld project it to 100% failure!!! And, my boss would throw the results on my face saying, "There's no technology here. Fire this good-for-nothing guy, and get someone else to get the job done"!!!
 
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A story of indian corruption were their technicians sleeping huge question mark on Indian military.
Still time india sud keep themselves in limits where they belong it's third world country with alot of poverty they can't fight unless they wanna suffer and reduce their population. If war broke out with any country india union split into many countries.
 
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men, they are really good at ruining the reputation of foreign military complex, from Mig-21 to C-130J, from T-90s to Kilo sub.

:rofl::rofl: Im including your post in my signature

I think new Armata is class ahead of M1 in its current shape

too early to speculate...what happened to t90 could happen to armata
 
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The Indian Army has been knocked out of the high-profile international tank biathlon taking place at the Alabino ranges in the Moscow region of Russia after both the main and reserve T-90 main battle tanks developed mechanical problems.

As a result of the breakdown of both tanks, the Indian squad was unable to complete the race and were disqualified. This is a sad end to the competition for the Army's tank crews since they had topped their group in the earlier round and were seen to be strong challengers to win the competition.

Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan and China have now entered the final round of the event. Russia and Kazakhstan participated with T-72B3 tanks, Belarus with a modernised T-72 and China sent its indigenous Type 96B. India decided to field its top of the line Russian designed T-90 Main Battle Tank instead of the indigenous Arjun tank which was widely expected to participate at the games this time.



Nineteen teams in total participated in the exercises with the top four entering the final. In the past, India had participated in these games using T-72 tanks provided by the Russian hosts. The Army felt disadvantaged using these tanks and was keen to field its best tanks and best crews. Consequently, two state-of-the-art T-90s were shipped across to Russia for these games.


Each participating team has up to 21 personnel including team members, a coaching crew and a maintenance unit. There are three stages in the competition - all teams participated in the individual race. Twelve teams made it to the semi-finals including India which involved a relay race. The top four teams will also participate in a relay race in the finals.

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Now I'm going to read the Indian excuses why T90 failed. From Chinese voodoo to Russian sabotage conspiracy:D
 
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Not the case you produces these tanks at home with local parts which is the reason of failure.

No local parts. India just assembles the kits from Russia.

Even in the Indian head-to-head trails between Arjun & T-90, T-90s lost badly but IA continues to stick to T-90 as they claim they need a lighter tank.


Arjun tank outruns, outguns Russian T-90
Ajai Shukla | New Delhi March 25, 2010 Last Updated at 00:18 IST


India’s home-built Arjun tank has emerged a conclusive winner from its showdown with the Russian T-90. A week of comparative trials, conducted by the army at the Mahajan Ranges, near Bikaner in Rajasthan, has ended; the results are still officially secret. But, Business Standard has learned from multiple sources who were involved in the trials that the Arjun tank has outperformed the T-90 on every crucial parameter.

The trial pitted one squadron (14 tanks) of Arjuns against an equal number of T-90s. Each squadron was given three tactical tasks; each involved driving across 50 kilometres of desert terrain and then shooting at a set of targets. Each tank had to fire at least 10 rounds, stationary and on the move, with each hit being carefully logged. In total, each tank drove 150 kilometres and fired between 30-50 rounds. The trials also checked the tanks’ ability to drive through a water channel 5-6 feet deep.

The Arjun tanks, the observers all agreed, performed superbly. Whether driving cross-country over rugged sand-dunes; detecting, observing and quickly engaging targets; or accurately hitting targets, both stationery and moving, with pinpoint gunnery; the Arjun demonstrated a clear superiority over the vaunted T-90.

“The Arjun could have performed even better, had it been operated by experienced crewmen”, says an officer who has worked on the Arjun. “As the army’s tank regiments gather experience on the Arjun, they will learn to exploit its capabilities.” With the trial report still being compiled — it is expected to reach Army Headquarters after a fortnight — neither the army, nor the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO), which developed the Arjun tank in Chennai at the Central Vehicles R&D Establishment (CVRDE), are willing to comment officially about the trials.

The importance of this comparative trial can be gauged from a list of those who attended. Witnessing the Arjun in action were most of the army’s senior tank generals, including the Director General of Mechanised Forces, Lt Gen D Bhardwaj; strike corps commander, Lt Gen Anil Chait; Army Commander South, Lt Gen Pradeep Khanna; and Deputy Chief of the Army Staff, Lt Gen JP Singh. The Director General of Military Operations, Lt Gen AS Sekhon also attended the trials.

Over the last four months, the army had systematically signalled that it did not want to buy more Arjuns. The message from senior officers was — 124 Arjun tanks have been bought already; no more would be ordered for the army’s fleet of 4000 tanks. The comparative trial, or so went the message, was merely to evaluate what operational role could be given to the army’s handful of Arjuns.

“The senior officers who attended the trials were taken aback by the Arjun’s strong performance,” an officer who was present through the trials frankly stated. “But they were also pleased that the Arjun had finally come of age.”

The army’s Directorate General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF), which has bitterly opposed buying more Arjuns, will now find it difficult to sustain that opposition. In keeping out the Arjun, the DGMF has opted to retain the already obsolescent T-72 tank in service for another two decades, spending thousands of crores in upgrading its vintage systems.

Now, confronted with the Arjun’s demonstrated capability, the army will face growing pressure to order more Arjuns.

The current order of 124 Arjuns is equipping the army’s 140 Armoured Brigade in Jaisalmer. With that order almost completed, the Arjun production line at the Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) in Avadi, near Chennai, needs more orders urgently. The Rs 50 crore facility can churn out 50 Arjuns annually. That would allow for the addition of close to one Arjun regiment each year (a regiment is authorised 62 tanks).

Tank experts point out that conducting trials only in Mahajan does not square with the army’s assertion that they are evaluating a role for the Arjun. Says Major General HM Singh, who oversaw the Arjun’s development for decades, “If they were evaluating where the Arjun should be deployed, they should have conducted the trials in different types of terrain: desert, semi-desert, plains and riverine. It seems as if the army has already decided to employ the Arjun in the desert.”

The Arjun’s sterling performance in the desert raises another far-reaching question: should the Arjun — with its proven mobility, firepower and armour protection — be restricted to a defensive role or should it equip the army’s strike corps for performing a tank’s most devastating (and glamorous) role: attacking deep into enemy territory during war? Each strike corps has 8-9 tank regiments. If the army recommends the Arjun for a strike role, that would mean an additional order of about 500 Arjuns.

But Business Standard has learned that senior officers are hesitant to induct the Arjun into strike corps. Sources say the Arjun will be kept out of strike formations on the grounds that it is incompatible with other strike corps equipment, e.g. assault bridges that cannot bear the 60-tonne weight of the Arjun.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...runs-outguns-russian-t-90-110032500022_1.html
 
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Being an indian doesnt mean must love india.

loving india could mean being proud of being an indian by insisting on your freedom to criticise her

You also couldnt get what i was trying to point out
 
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