Afghans in Herat celebrate with Afghan & Indian Flags on Streets

[TMA]

Mods please take care of trolls who are dragging Pakistan into it.

People criticizing pakistan should first read the history. Pakistan has tried to establish brotherly relations with Afghanistan only to be stabbed in the back by afghanistan.

) Afghanistan imposed a war on Pakistan not long after pakistan's independence.
) Afghanistan tried it's best to block Pakistan's UN entry.
) Afghanistan funded and provided safe havens to terrorists fighting pakistan, long before all these Afghan wars started.
) Afghanistan claim 60% of Pakistani land.

I can go on but i hate spoon feeding wanna be disables who have access to internet but can't read proper history.

People need to be oft reminded of this.

I can see one day will come when India and Pakistan will cooperate with each other in a peaceful way with Afghanistan for its stability and development.It is not like people of Pakistan do not like to be engaged with Afganistan in a peaceful or productive way, rather it is the policy of the Gov of Pakistan that is creating mistrust between your nation...

It is the presence of NATO in Afghanistan post the 9/11 false flags and the subsequent destabilisation which is responsible as well for this mistrust.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

It does NOT matter what you eat

What matters is what you THINK

I was referring to Afghan thinking and arrogance. You did not get it. Dal khor is racist slur which afghan use for Pakistani Punjabi who are even meat khor but they have no problem with Indian who are pure vegetarians (daal khor)..

T not via proxy groups.

and what was the reason of Pakistan interference in Afghanistan? It was anti Pakistan attitude of aafghan government toward Pakistan since its inception which forced Pakistan to do this . Introspection is good habit

 

[Turingsage]

PM Modi arrives in Qatar, economic cooperation high on agenda

PM Modi will hold detailed talks with Emir of Qatar Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani on a range of bilateral issues as well as regional and international matters of mutual concern.
By: PTI | Doha | Updated: June 4, 2016 8:33 pm

Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Qatar counterpart Emir of Qatar Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa Al Thani during arrival at Doha airport on Saturday. (Source: PTI)
Prime Minister Narendra Modi arrived in Doha on Saturday on a two-day visit which is focused on giving a new
push to the economic ties, particularly in the hydrocarbon sector, between India and the energy-rich Qatar.

Modi will hold detailed talks with Emir of Qatar Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani and address the business community of Qatar, a country which is India’s largest supplier of LNG requirements, accounting for 65 per cent of the country’s total imports last financial year.

On his arrival, Modi was warmly received by Qatar’s Prime Minister Abdullah bin Nasser bin Khalifa Al Thani at the airport.

“Reached Doha. India attaches great priority to strong ties with Qatar & my visit seeks to expand bilateral ties between our nations,” he tweeted on his arrival.

“I look forward to the various programs that will enhance economic & people-to-people ties between India & Qatar,” he said in another tweet.

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He also tweeted some messages in Arabic language.

PM Modi inaugurates Salma Dam in Afghanistan

Modi will hold detailed talks with the Emir of Qatar tomorrow on a range of bilateral issues as well as regional
and international matters of mutual concern. The discussions are expected to focus on energy but various other aspects of the relationship will also come up during the talks, sources said here today.

Qatar is an important trading partner for India in the Gulf region with bilateral trade in 2014-15 exceeding USD 15 billion. Qatar is also one of India’s key sources of crude oil.

At present, a number of Indian companies are involved in construction activities related to the FIFA World Cup being hosted by Qater in 2022.

Ahead of Modi’s US visit, Westinghouse plans to set up 6 nuclear plants in Andhra

Modi, who is here on a two-day trip, will also address the Indian workers while visiting a labour camp here. The Indian diaspora of over 6,30,000 form the largest expatriate community in Qatar and constitutes a substantial percentage of the country’s population.

The Prime Minister has been focusing on improving ties with the Gulf region which is crucial for India’s energy security. He has already visited United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia.

Modi is the first Indian Prime Minister to visit Qatar in the last eight years. The then Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had visited Doha in 2008.

“India’s historical and close relations with Qatar are marked by mutually beneficial commercial exchanges and extensive people-to-people contacts,” External Affairs Ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup had said ahead of the visit.

There has been regular exchange of high-level bilateral visits in the recent past. The Emir of Qatar had visited India in March 2015. Previously, the then Emir of Qatar had visited India in 1999, 2005 and 2012.

From here, the Prime Minister will travel to Switzerland on way to the USA.

- See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-hamad-al-thani-2834464/#sthash.gDeGU0zI.dpuf

 

[A-Team]

I was referring to Afghan thinking and arrogance. You did not get it. Dal khor is racist slur which afghan use for Pakistani Punjabi who are even meat khor but they have no problem with Indian who are pure vegetarians (daal khor)..


and what was the reason of Pakistan interference in Afghanistan? It was anti Pakistan attitude of aafghan government toward Pakistan since its inception which forced Pakistan to do this . Introspection is good habit

- Racial slurs are condemnable and only the ignorants would do that.

- I think we have been both guilty of undermining each other and by extension the entire region has been playing the zero sum game with one another. But the current NUG in Afghanistan is bent on regional cooperation and Ashraf Ghani in specific wants to develop Afghanistan in tandem with the region ( Pakistan included.

Now Afghanistan has chosen how it wants to be seen in the next couple of decades, its for Pakistan to have an internal discourse whether to develop with us or still be stuck "oh you have not accepted us in the UN in 1947 "!

Sound logic dictates the former.

/Peace

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

- Racial slurs are condemnable and only the ignorants would do that.

- I think we have been both guilty of undermining each other and by extension the entire region has been playing the zero sum game with one another. But the current NUG in Afghanistan is bent on regional cooperation and Ashraf Ghani in specific wants to develop Afghanistan in tandem with the region ( Pakistan included.

Now Afghanistan has chosen how it wants to be seen in the next couple of decades, its for Pakistan to have an internal discourse whether to develop with us or still be stuck "oh you have not accepted us in the UN in 1947 "!

Sound logic dictates the former.

/Peace

Shortly after Pakistan gained independence in 1947, Afghanistan crafted a two-fold strategy to destabilize the frontier regions of Pakistan, in an attempt to take advantage of Pakistan's post-independence instability. Firstly, it strongly aligned itself with Pakistan's rival, India, and also the USSR, which later invaded Afghanistan in 1979. Secondly, it politically and financially back secessionist politicians in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the 1960s. Afghanistan's policies placed a severe strain upon Pakistan–Afghan relations in the 1960s, up until the 1970s, when the movement largely subsided as the population came to thoroughly identify with Pakistan; although, resentment against the Punjabi elite continued to develop. The Pashtun assimilation into the Pakistani state followed years of rising Pashtun influence in Pakistani politics and the nation's bureaucracy, culminating inAyub Khan, Yahya Khan, Ishaq Khan– the Pashtuns, being placed as the presidential leader of Pakistan. The largest nationalist part of the time, the Awami National Party (ANP), dropped its secessionist agenda and openly embraced the Pakistani state, leaving only the small and relatively insignificant Pakhtunkhwa Millat Party to champion the cause of independence in relation to both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Despite the weaknesses of the early secessionist movement, this period in history continues to negatively influence Pakistani-Afghan relations in the 21st century, in addition to the province's politics.

Bit history of past relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan–Pakistan_relations

Its in best interest of Pakistan to have stable Afghanistan. I personally want to see a good relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan but Afghans pashtun need to get rid of this dream of loy pahstunistan by recognising the durrand line and accepting the border as exist and defined in present and should stop exporting terrorism in Pakistan. Rest we will have no issue with Afghanistan and will have no reason to interfere

 

[RealNapster]

Oh you are stuck on the word Exile?

So what you expect from me ?

Well I don't know what difference remains
between self exile and other exile if education institutions of repute suddenly reject your admissions ?

Institutes like ???

While your family members are beaten up for trying to defend your mosque or killed for simply being Ahmadi.

If stopping an Ahmadi brother from selling books can be news here. so that must be also in media. Afterall it's a big clash "to defend a mosque" . So...!!! Source Please.

No if the Hindus and Christians were also entirely happy in Pakistan, then Hindus would not be migrating to India,
then Christian homes and churches would not have been torched by mobs of extremists.

Bangladeshi till 90's migrated Pakistan, what was that ? Large number of Muslims migrated Pakistan between 70's and 80's . may be still going process but on a small scale. Some Jewish Families migrated to Israel, so as per your speculations they were tortured in India and exiled from India ? So tell me what Precisely you wan't to prove by this statement ?

If they were truly happy with minorities then Rimsha Masih would be free and Taseer would not be dead for
trying to stick up for a poor Christian woman. What about Shahbaz Bhatti? Whatever happened to him? A conspiracy by qadianis to defame Pakistan, right?

Justice will come to every person. Allah kay ghar dair hay Andhair nahe.

Do you seriously want me to go on or are you one of those Pakistanis who believe that minorities are all part of
a big conspiracy to malign Pakistan? I don't understand what you want me to answer?

i just asked you to tell me "HOW" they exiled you .... still waiting for the answer.

That you personally treat Ahmadis well? Good for you, do you want a medal?

it would be great. UN should also give me some sort of Award. as they normally give to "some" peoples. ... I also wan't to Visit London, speak to the Assembly, meet Queen for my work ..

Are you really a retard or trying to be one ? Like Seriously ?

Stop being retarded. Declare yourself Ahmadi to your parents and friends for a day. Then come back to me with your retarded 10 year old style snarky remarks about the word exile.

Sure.. I will. But i am not. wouldn't it be Hypocrisy ? i am not a hypocrite .. sorry


Good Luck Mr.Self Exile. will talk next time Inshallah.

 

[TMA]

- Racial slurs are condemnable and only the ignorants would do that.

- I think we have been both guilty of undermining each other and by extension the entire region has been playing the zero sum game with one another. But the current NUG in Afghanistan is bent on regional cooperation and Ashraf Ghani in specific wants to develop Afghanistan in tandem with the region ( Pakistan included.

Now Afghanistan has chosen how it wants to be seen in the next couple of decades, its for Pakistan to have an internal discourse whether to develop with us or still be stuck "oh you have not accepted us in the UN in 1947 "!

Sound logic dictates the former.

/Peace

Both guilty yes, however the aggressor was not Pakistan. The current NUG is under the "patronage" of NATO: NATO is not in Afghanistan for regional co-operation. Right now Afghanistan is in the midst of civil conflict and where members of Afghanistan's parliament are calling on the UN to add Pakistan to the list of terrorist states. Afghanistan has not chosen and she cannot chose for herself as long as there are NATO bases on her territory.

But before I say this to Afghanistan, I say to Pakistan shame on you for allowing NATO passage and shame on you for taking on the the status of a major non-NATO ally.

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2016/05/29/add-pakistan-list-terrorist-states-mps-urge-united-nations

 

[American Pakistani]

- Racial slurs are condemnable and only the ignorants would do that.

- I think we have been both guilty of undermining each other and by extension the entire region has been playing the zero sum game with one another. But the current NUG in Afghanistan is bent on regional cooperation and Ashraf Ghani in specific wants to develop Afghanistan in tandem with the region ( Pakistan included.

Now Afghanistan has chosen how it wants to be seen in the next couple of decades, its for Pakistan to have an internal discourse whether to develop with us or still be stuck "oh you have not accepted us in the UN in 1947 "!

Sound logic dictates the former.

/Peace

You are sensible member from Afghanistan, hence I dared to quote you.

I wanna know how can Afghanistan expect pakistan to become an angel when on it's own part Afghanistan is supporting anti pakistan elements and demanding UN to declare pakistan as a terrorist state. Furthermore why Afghanistan protest whenever pakistan tries to barrier the border and why the screams of claiming 60% of pakistan rise?

 

[A-Team]

Shortly after Pakistan gained independence in 1947, Afghanistan crafted a two-fold strategy to destabilize the frontier regions of Pakistan, in an attempt to take advantage of Pakistan's post-independence instability. Firstly, it strongly aligned itself with Pakistan's rival, India, and also the USSR, which later invaded Afghanistan in 1979. Secondly, it politically and financially back secessionist politicians in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the 1960s. Afghanistan's policies placed a severe strain upon Pakistan–Afghan relations in the 1960s, up until the 1970s, when the movement largely subsided as the population came to thoroughly identify with Pakistan; although, resentment against the Punjabi elite continued to develop. The Pashtun assimilation into the Pakistani state followed years of rising Pashtun influence in Pakistani politics and the nation's bureaucracy, culminating inAyub Khan, Yahya Khan, Ishaq Khan– the Pashtuns, being placed as the presidential leader of Pakistan. The largest nationalist part of the time, the Awami National Party (ANP), dropped its secessionist agenda and openly embraced the Pakistani state, leaving only the small and relatively insignificant Pakhtunkhwa Millat Party to champion the cause of independence in relation to both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Despite the weaknesses of the early secessionist movement, this period in history continues to negatively influence Pakistani-Afghan relations in the 21st century, in addition to the province's politics.

Bit history of past relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan–Pakistan_relations

Its in best interest of Pakistan to have stable Afghanistan. I personally want to see a good relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan but Afghans pashtun need to get rid of this dream of loy pahstunistan by recognising the durrand line and accepting the border as exist and defined in present and should stop exporting terrorism in Pakistan. Rest we will have no issue with Afghanistan and will have no reason to interfere

Running in circles : I can actually write an article longer than yours to find the shortcoming of Pakistan vis-a-vis Afghanistan but then we will be running in circles. Sane mindset dedicates then we have a frank discussion with each other, address each other's genuine grievances and look towards a better future.

Not weakness : BTW this pan-regional approach offered by Afghanistan should not be interpreted as weakness in Pakistan, because at the end of the day how worse can it get for Afghanistan?
Pakistan backed proxies have been killing Afghans for the last 15 years and the hatred in the Afghan eyes will magnify even further. Yes you will kick all the Afghans to Afghanistan, close border routes and continue supporting Talis and Haqqani's which exacerbate the situation but at the end of the day with alternative routes for commerce being currently put in place and the presence of NATO/US forces will provide a breathing space for the Afghan state to stand but you will find at the end of all of this a permanent Afghan state and a permanent enemy whose hatred will stay for generations.

Summary : There will be no winners in this scenario and thus sound mind dictates that we talk frankly with each other and address each other's genuine grievances .

/Peace

You are sensible member from Afghanistan, hence I dared to quote you.

I wanna know how can Afghanistan expect pakistan to become an angel when on it's own part Afghanistan is supporting anti pakistan elements and demanding UN to declare pakistan as a terrorist state. Furthermore why Afghanistan protest whenever pakistan tries to barrier the border and why the screams of claiming 60% of pakistan rise?

- Zero-sum game must end between us, frank dialogue and addressing each other's genuine grievance is the only for us to make it work between us. We can't run away from eachother as we are neighbours and thus must find ways to make peace. It is stupid to be in eternal state of hostilities with each other while the rest of the world laughs at us.

/Peace

 

[TMA]

Running in circles : I can actually write an article longer than yours to find the shortcoming of Pakistan vis-a-vis Afghanistan but then we will be running in circles. Sane mindset dedicates then we have a frank discussion with each other, address each other's genuine grievances and look towards a better future.

Not weakness : BTW this pan-regional approach offered by Afghanistan should not be interpreted as weakness in Pakistan, because at the end of the day how worse can it get for Afghanistan?
Pakistan backed proxies have been killing Afghans for the last 15 years and the hatred in the Afghan eyes will magnify even further. Yes you will kick all the Afghans to Afghanistan, close border routes and continue supporting Talis and Haqqani's which exacerbate the situation but at the end of the day with alternative routes for commerce being currently put in place and the presence of NATO/US forces will provide a breathing space for the Afghan state to stand but you will find at the end of all of this a permanent Afghan state and a permanent enemy whose hatred will stay for generations.

Summary : There will be no winners in this scenario and thus sound mind dictates that we talk frankly with each other and address each other's genuine grievances .

/Peace



- Zero-sum game must end between us, frank dialogue and addressing each other's genuine grievance is the only for us to make it work between us. We can't run away from eachother as we are neighbours and thus must find ways to make peace. It is stupid to be in eternal state of hostilities with each other while the rest of the world laughs at us.

/Peace

Peace can only begin to happen if NATO leaves. I have said before and say again, NATO did not invade and stay on in Afghanistan for hunting down the one who allegedly executed the false flag attack of 9/11 and for regional co-operative purposes. She has ulterior strategic interests: destabilization and weakening of Pakistan; containment of Chinese interests; containment of Russian interests.

Also I think Afghans need to have frank discussions with themselves before they try with Pakistan. On the one hand some of them are wanting the UN to declare Pakistan a terrorist state and on the other some Afghans want frank discussions with Pakistan.

Summary: The territory of Afghanistan is being used against Pakistan just like back in the 50's and 60's. No enduring progress can take place until this stops.

 

[A-Team]

Peace can only begin to happen if NATO leaves. I have said before and say again, NATO did not invade and stay on in Afghanistan for hunting down the one who allegedly executed the false flag attack of 9/11 and for regional co-operative purposes. She has ulterior strategic interests: destabilization and weakening of Pakistan; containment of Chinese interests; containment of Russian interests.

Also I think Afghans need to have frank discussions with themselves before they try with Pakistan. On the one hand some of them are wanting the UN to declare Pakistan a terrorist state and on the other some Afghans want frank discussions with Pakistan.

Summary: The territory of Afghanistan is being used against Pakistan just like back in the 50's and 60's. No enduring progress can take place until this stops.

All right seems you and I have no middle ground because we seem to see the world from a different perspective.
That is fine, difference of opinion is natural.
US/NATO are going to stay in Afghanistan because it is in the interest of Afghans and we want them to stay.

You seem to live in UK, are you British citizen? or you are living there as Pakistani expat?
You do realize that UK is part of this international coalition which according to you is destabilizing and weakening Pakistan, so isn't hypocritical of you to live in hostile nation?

 

[TMA]

All right seems you and I have no middle ground because we seem to see the world from a different perspective.
That is fine, difference of opinion is natural.
US/NATO are going to stay in Afghanistan because it is in the interest of Afghans and we want them to stay.

You seem to live in UK, are you British citizen? or you are living there as Pakistani expat?
You do realize that UK is part of this international coalition which according to you is destabilizing and weakening Pakistan, so isn't hypocritical of you to live in hostile nation?

Firstly not all Afghans agree with you, a significant proportion of the population do not like foreign hosts hence the civil conflict in Afghanistan.

Born and bred. The nation of Britain is not hostile, at least the majority is not, it is those who have power in Britain. I wish Britain to leave NATO for her benefit as well, indeed I know many Britons who feel the same.

It is not just me but others who say that NATO is destabilizing the entire region. (Of course Pakistan does not help herself which such corrupt politicians leading her).

http://www.agencyrules.com/balkanizing-pakistan/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-...e-east-the-project-for-a-new-middle-east/3882

Thirdly NATO are not in Afghanistan for Afghan interests; if the NUG decided to be independent, development in Afghanistan would begin to stagnate.

Fourthly Afghans need frank discussions amongst themseves; Pakistanis amongst themselves.

The military establishment in Pakistan knows that NATO are in Afghanistan for ulterior purposes; hence no enduring progress can occur as this risks the national security of Pakistan. I just wish that they were brave and declare it so.