Afghans flee shelling from Pakistan: official, witnesses

[mjnaushad]

Something has to be done in Kunar province and Northern Waziristan province of Afghanistan, Nobody can abandon it as it is.

CC: Sher Malang: Sir are you confident that ANSF forces are capable of handling siutation in 2014? because Air support may not be there once the United States leave? My question is regarding Major combat operations? Can Afghanistan forces hold any territory preventing Infiltration from Taliban militants?. All Countries must provide maximum Aid to Afghan Security Forces.

My concern is that the Government must not collapse just like as it happened after Soviet Union withdrawl?

Now you know what we mean when we say "You dont know the ground realities"

 

[Irfan Baloch]

It's fine buddy! the drone strikes may not be good in the eyes of Pakistani people but don't you think your security agencies are giving intel to US? if no then it shows US has deeply penetrated the trible areas with it's informers.

how long you have spent time in the tribal areas? each and everyone knows the other person by name, by family and by profession.

the only sell out we know is that Dr Afridi. there might be more but would be only a handful.
its very hard to stay undercover and continue to be an informer for US with the head still on the shoulders.

TTP have the habit of killing people just on the suspicions. we have lost a lot of agents and pro-governments tribesmen because of this might not be the reality. cant dismiss it though.. indeed thats how some terrorists were nailed while getting pampered on the roof top

so "deeply penetrated into tribal areas£ sounds very convincing for some keyboard warrior in America or Mumbai but

 

[Bratva]

how long you have spent time in the tribal areas? each and everyone knows the other person by name, by family and by profession.

the only sell out we know is that Dr Afridi. there might be more but would be only a handful.
its very hard to stay undercover and continue to be an informer for US with the head still on the shoulders.

TTP have the habit of killing people just on the suspicions. we have lost a lot of agents and pro-governments tribesmen because of this might not be the reality. cant dismiss it though.. indeed thats how some terrorists were nailed while getting pampered on the roof top

so "deeply penetrated into tribal areas£ sounds very convincing for some keyboard warrior in America or Mumbai but

is it a possibility USA drone tracks Afghan taliban foot soldier movement from Afghanistan to North waziristan that's how they gather info on places they are going to attack?


Or whenever americans intercept Taliban communication in N.Waziristan they put a drone over that place where chatter was intercepted and than do a recce on the movement of possible terrorists through drone and where where he went they mark the place and strike through drone?

Another theory of mine is, Informers in tribal area tells american about the couriers or mid level commanders working for Haqqani or Afghan taliban and they track their position through drones and wait until they lead them to high profile target

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[Cheetah786]

Looks like Pakistan has become a little too trigger happy recently . I hope the NATO and Afghans don't decide to give it back . USA is particularly known to break all laws and considerations of proportionality .

NO It looks like Pakistan is finally waking up and responding to the threat as it should have from Day one as far as Americans attacking Pakistan is concerned i cant remember them attacking a nuclear state to Please India do you.

 

[IceCold]

I seriously think the hands of our armed forces have been severely tied that they have now retort to the use of artillery thanks to the government, otherwise a better well coordinated precision strike could be done in order to achieve the desire results and that too without the fear of collateral damage.
TTP, BLA have long found sanctuaries in Afghanistan and the silence of this government on this grave threat specially when Afghanistan and USA regularly blame Pakistan for harboring terrorists, is in itself a committed treason.

 

[Sher Malang]

After developing you need to maintain and keep upgrading it which is not possible with this economic condition.

7 Billion USD..? Isnt that more than Pakistan's defence budget?

Sorry dudes ANSF's 2012 budget is not 7bln$ but 11.2bln$

http://asafm.army.mil/Documents/OfficeDocuments/Budget/BudgetMaterials/FY13/OCO//asff.pdf

 

[Wright]

Sorry dudes ANSF's 2012 budget is not 7bln$ but 11.2bln$

http://asafm.army.mil/Documents/OfficeDocuments/Budget/BudgetMaterials/FY13/OCO//asff.pdf

WOW. You guys might be able to get better equipment and stand up to Pakistan miltarily. A couple of F15's would be great.

 

[OrionHunter]

It seems a two front war is possible. They are shelling Nato on one side, and India on the other.

For God's sake this ain't war but minor clashes.

But yes, Pakistan is now facing a four front conflict -The Western borders with Afghanistan, India toward the East, the militants within, and Americans from the sky. That makes it tough going.

 

[IceCold]

Army Chief Kayani urges ISAF Commander to curb border incursions
Updated 2 hours ago


RAWALPINDI: ISAF Commander, General John Allen called on Chief of Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani at General Headquarters Rawalpindi.

According to sources, General Kayani expressed serious reservations on the intrusion of militants from Afghanistan into Pakistan.

Security sources said COAS General Kayani also raised the issue of the attack on a Pakistani post by militants from Afghanistan in the Dir area.

Kayani told the ISAF Commander that NATO should take serious notice of border incursions.

Army Chief Kayani urges ISAF Commander to curb border incursions - geo.tv

 

[vsdoc]

But yes, Pakistan is now facing a four front conflict -The Western borders with Afghanistan, India toward the East, the militants within, and Americans from the sky. That makes it tough going.

I see the Sauds and the Iranians being added to the mix very soon as well.

I pray somewhere sometime when I am an old man, official intelligence documents get declassified, and I get to know that my country fought back.

 

[Sher Malang]

WOW. You guys might be able to get better equipment and stand up to Pakistan miltarily. A couple of F15's would be great.

Afghanistan's defense strategy is defensive not offensive but we will hopefully see military contracts for jets, tanks and SAMS after 2014 once the training and infrastructure development finishes!

More than 200 pilots are under professional training in USA, Turkey and UAE! they will learn to fly various aircraft from jets to helis; more are under training in Afghanistan.

 

[Sher Malang]

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2012/06/27/2-injured-fresh-pakistani-missile-strike

ASADABAD (PAN): Two more people were injured after missiles fired by Pakistani forces hit southern Kunar province of Afghanistan, officials said on Wednesday.

 

[Areesh]

WOW. You guys might be able to get better equipment and stand up to Pakistan miltarily. A couple of F15's would be great.

Oh my God. The mighty Afghan army is going to stand up to Pakistan army. We are very scared.

But who is going to order ANA for invasion on Pakistan. Tajik war lord? Uzbik war lord? or Pushtoon war lord? Which "chief" ANA is going to follow.

Why is Pakistan shelling both sides of its border indiscriminately?

Diversionary tactics?

Releasing pressure building up internally?

Indiscriminately? We bombed military posts on the eastern front and silenced a few trigger happy guys. On western front we allegedly bombed a few sanctuaries of TTP according to intelligence reports. Where is the indiscriminate bombing buddy?

 

[Icarus]

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ASADABAD (PAN): Two more people were injured after missiles fired by Pakistani forces hit southern Kunar province of Afghanistan, officials said on Wednesday.

Pakistan does not deploy any missile systems in FATA. Field artillery is all we have there. The Taliban use rockets though. So either it was the Taliban or the report is BS.

For God's sake this ain't war but minor clashes.

But yes, Pakistan is now facing a four front conflict -The Western borders with Afghanistan, India toward the East, the militants within, and Americans from the sky. That makes it tough going.

At the moment it's cool with the Indians and the West+Internal we can deal with. As for the Americans, they are targeting NWA, the last bastion of the Taliban on Pakistan's soil. As soon as it is cleared, the drone attacks will also cease. However, we'll be pressing it to thin if we go in now, we have to pull troops from other areas to put in NWA but then we risk the balloon effect, you press it from here and the air moves to the other side. Same with the militants, there has to be pressure on the opposite side as well.

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan does not deploy any missile systems in FATA. Field artillery is all we have there. The Taliban use rockets though. So either it was the Taliban or the report is BS.

Sir, popular reporting sometimes uses the wider definition of a missile, which can be anything that is "capable of being thrown or projected to strike a distant object", from bricks to ICBMs.