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Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Kashmir: A Grand Bargain?

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I think this article by Foreign Policy has some sensible ideas. I know my Pakistani fellows are likely to have a knee-jerk negative reaction with the LoC=IB proposal but I think we need to consider everything rationally. The goal is peace and prosperity in the region, including for Kashmiris. I think there are enough incentives offered to all to give this article some serious consideration.
My only major issue would be: IF United States is in Afghanistan for some 'contain-China' policy then we this article is way off the mark.
Anyway, read on.

Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir: A Grand Bargain? - by Teresita and Howard Schaffer | The AfPak Channel
With U.S. relations in Pakistan at a low point and the two countries' strategic disagreement over priorities in Afghanistan on full display, it is time to review U.S. strategic options. One that deserves a close look is a grand bargain: give Pakistan what it wants in Afghanistan - but on two conditions: Pakistan assumes responsibility for preventing terrorism out of Afghanistan, and Pakistan agrees to settle Kashmir along the present geographic lines. This is not a panacea, nor would it be easy to execute. But it addresses the principal stumbling block to the current U.S. strategy, and provides an incentive to settle the region's longest-running dispute.

For the past decade, U.S. policy has been based on the assumption that the United States and Pakistan shared the strategic goal of extirpating from the leadership of Afghanistan the Taliban and allied terrorist forces. This objective was at the heart of the partnership struck after 9/11. As with the two previous major U.S.-Pakistan partnerships, in the 1950s/60s and in the 1980s, the assumption of strategic agreement was at best only half true, and the differences between the two countries' goals have become increasingly difficult to paper over. This time, Pakistan's desire to ensure what its army chief has referred to as "a friendly government" in Kabul - meaning a government deferential to Pakistan and impervious to Indian influence - has intensified, especially since the beginning of 2011. During that time, the U.S.-Pakistan relationship was devastated by the aftereffects of the shooting of two Pakistanis by CIA contractor Raymond Davis and his subsequent arrest, by the raid that killed Osama bin Ladin, and by the harsh public criticism of Pakistan by retiring U.S. Admiral Mike Mullen.

The two governments have been trying to salvage some working elements of partnership. However, their ability to work together toward a peaceful settlement in Afghanistan, badly strained by conflicting goals, was for practical purposes ended by the assassination of Burhanuddin Rabbani, the Karzai government's designated representative for peace initiatives toward the Afghan Taliban. This was not the first time Pakistan's insistence on controlling negotiations inside Afghanistan had trumped its stated policy of supporting the Afghan government's negotiating role, but this incident has brought tentative peace feelers, already rickety, to a virtual halt.

Washington's response to this situation has been to seek a stronger basis for working with Pakistan. This reflects U.S. recognition of Pakistan's critical importance to peace in the region and to Afghanistan's future - as well as the major U.S. stake in nuclear-armed Pakistan's own political and economic health. These are indeed important considerations - but it does not follow that the U.S. should continue on essentially the same path that has repeatedly come up short.

There are two other strategic options: treat Pakistan as a hostile power, and try to impose an acceptable solution in Afghanistan in the teeth of Pakistani efforts to control the process; or build a strategy that allows Pakistan to have the major say in Afghanistan, but on conditions that protect U.S. strategic interests and give Pakistan a strong incentive to respect them. We believe that forcing an acceptable solution is almost certain to fail. It would depend, unrealistically, on the effectiveness of an intra-Afghan negotiating process and of the government that would follow. It would also presuppose, equally implausibly, that Afghanistan would remain able to withstand the Pakistani effort to upset the settlement that would surely follow.

The strategic alternative that remains is a grand bargain, initially between Pakistan and the United States, but eventually involving India. The major elements would be:

Concede Pakistani primacy in Afghanistan: The United States would tell Pakistan's leaders that it is up to them to work with the various Afghan leaders - the government and whatever elements of the Taliban - toward a postwar accommodation that can keep Afghanistan free of terrorism and at peace. Pakistan would insist on eliminating or minimizing India's involvement in Afghanistan (a modest economic relationship, for example), and would assume the major place in Afghanistan's external environment.
Hold Pakistan responsible for terrorism from Afghanistan: At the same time, the U.S. would warn Pakistan that we would hold it responsible for any act of terrorism originating in Afghanistan or Pakistan. This does not mean a policy of automatic retaliation - such decisions need to be made case by case - but it would put Pakistan on notice that winking at the forces in both countries that have spread terrorism within the region and beyond carries a tremendous risk.
Settle Kashmir along the Line of Control: The United States would tell Pakistan that as part of this settlement, it will publicly call for negotiations to settle the Kashmir dispute by turning the existing Line of Control between the Indian and Pakistani-held portions into an international border. It would give India advance notice of this announcement. U.S. support for a settlement along the Line of Control would in all likelihood pull additional international support in that direction.

The actual negotiations would be carried out by the two countries. These would cover not just the border but a whole host of other issues, including the ground rules for ensuring both countries' security, prevention of terrorism, encouragement of economic ties, and the rights of Kashmiris on both sides of the line to robust self-government. Many of these elements were included in the proposals Pakistan's former president, Pervez Musharraf, set forth before he fell from power, and a good number were at the heart of the proposals discussed in back channel negotiations between India and Pakistan in the last years of Musharraf's presidency. Whether the United States would have a role in the negotiating process would depend on the desires of India and Pakistan.
Maintain a robust civilian and military partnership with Pakistan, including support as appropriate for its work toward a settlement in Afghanistan and generous funding for such Pakistani priorities as electric power generation. In the context of Kashmir negotiations, the U.S. could look at an updated security relationship. All this would of course be contingent on Pakistan holding to the overall bargain.
A deal along these lines would hand Pakistan one of its primary strategic objectives, but at a price Pakistanis would find very hard to swallow. Kashmir has a much tighter hold on the national heartstrings than Afghanistan. However, in practice Pakistan has lost its chance of gaining Kashmir, and many Pakistanis privately acknowledge this. They are well aware that for years, Pakistan's efforts have done nothing to remove India's hold on the state, and have succeeded only in deepening hostility and making the region less secure for everyone, including Pakistan.

Securing Pakistan against its military leaders' nightmare of an Indian threat from both east and west provides a strategic gain, especially when coupled with a possible Kashmir agreement that could lay the groundwork for transforming the hostile relationship with India into one that was merely chilly but improving. The bigger problem may be how to ensure that these gains are maintained. Afghanistan has never had sustained good relations with Pakistan, and may once again look to India as a balancer - an all too willing one - when it tires of being guided by Pakistan. And on the Kashmir side, even if the Pakistan government and its army agree to negotiate peace with India - by no means a sure bet - the militant movement in Pakistan includes many spoilers who will try to stir up trouble in Kashmir or elsewhere in India, providing acute temptation to the army to join in.

These difficulties make the grand bargain described here a long shot. Using military and economic aid as leverage might increase Pakistan's motivation to keep the bargain, though this is a tactic that has only worked for short periods in the past, and has never succeeded in dissuading Pakistan from following major strategic interests. To improve the odds, the United States would need to seek other international support, appealing to the desire of Pakistan's international friends to improve Pakistan's long term economic and security prospects. Bringing China at least tacitly on board would be the ideal. Other players would be the European aid donors, and some of Pakistan's Arab benefactors. The United States would also have to expend some diplomatic capital to dissuade India from trying to upset the balance in Afghanistan, noting that the U.S. had promoted a Kashmir settlement on terms quite favorable to India, and that reducing India's profile in Afghanistan had to be seen in that context.

But considering the results of ten years of engagement, and the tremendous risks flowing from a "hostile Pakistan" strategy, the long shot starts to look like the best available strategic bet.

Teresita Schaffer is a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution; Howard Schaffer is Senior Counselor at the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy, Georgetown University. Both are retired U.S. ambassadors with long experience in South Asia. They are co-directors of South Asia Hand.
 
No response?!
I thought, considering that almost all problems Pakistan faces have their roots in the decades old rivalry with India there would be more interest.
I still think IF 'contain-China' is not the eventual goal for Americans then the OP article has some practical and reasonable suggestions.
 
Going through with these American demands will be poiltical suicide for any Pakistani political party. U.S. has more of a chance with PPP going through with these demands, because they have shown to be the biggest slaves of America in the history of Pakistan. PML-N wont go through with these demands because PML-N has a large Kashmiri lobby. PTI will never give into any of America's demands so if America wants to achieve these goals they have the best chance under the present PPP government, but Pasha and Kayani will never let this happen.

So this article is just wishful thinking of the American government :coffee:
 
Kashmir has a much tighter hold on the national heartstrings than Afghanistan. However, in practice Pakistan has lost its chance of gaining Kashmir, and many Pakistanis privately acknowledge this. They are well aware that for years, Pakistan's efforts have done nothing to remove India's hold on the state, and have succeeded only in deepening hostility and making the region less secure for everyone, including Pakistan.

Very True.:agree:
However Interesting (Bolded Part). :pop:

The United States would also have to expend some diplomatic capital to dissuade India from trying to upset the balance in Afghanistan, noting that the U.S. had promoted a Kashmir settlement on terms quite favorable to India, and that reducing India's profile in Afghanistan had to be seen in that context.
:woot: :disagree:
 
Pakistan should forget Kashmir it's a lost cause, focus on Afghanistan and dominating there once you do that and a strong Afghanistan is ready you could form a Union with them to make up for the 1971 loss.
 
Going through with these American demands will be poiltical suicide for any Pakistani political party. U.S. has more of a chance with PPP going through with these demands, because they have shown to be the biggest slaves of America in the history of Pakistan. PML-N wont go through with these demands because PML-N has a large Kashmiri lobby. PTI will never give into any of America's demands so if America wants to achieve these goals they have the best chance under the present PPP government, but Pasha and Kayani will never let this happen.

So this article is just wishful thinking of the American government :coffee:

Article is complete nonsense.

The Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir want to free from Indian Occupation.

Pakistan will not give up it's moral stance on Kashmir.

Afghanistan is not going anywhere. The west knows they are losing, so they are trying to find an escape route.
 
Article is complete nonsense.

The Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir want to free from Indian Occupation.

Pakistan will not give up it's moral stance on Kashmir.

then you lose afghanistan and the chance to regain what you lost in 1971 :coffee:
 
then you lose afghanistan and the chance to regain what you lost in 1971 :coffee:

Pakistan's stance on Kashmir makes sense.

Afghanistan is not going anywhere.

Pakistan already has the advantage in Afghanistan due to the religious factor. India cannot compete with Pakistan when it comes to Afghanistan. Americans really don't know Asia very well.
 
Pakistan's stance on Kashmir makes sense.

Afghanistan is not going anywhere.

Pakistan already has the advantage in Afghanistan due to the religious factor. India cannot compete with Pakistan when it comes to Afghanistan. Americans really don't know Asia very well.

India's influence in afghanistan is gained already while your is decreasing, it's simply india won't give up kashmir without a fight what are you going to do another kargil ? try to bring china into it ? China has no interest in indian kashmir and indian cannot take your kashmir it's simple neither will give up it.

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Best solution build up Afghanistan you gain control of most of the worlds poppy fields, minerals routes etc etc
 
India's influence in afghanistan is gained already while your is decreasing, it's simply india won't give up kashmir without a fight what are you going to do another kargil ? try to bring china into it ? China has no interest in indian kashmir and indian cannot take your kashmir it's simple neither will give up it.

indian influence will decrease substantially as soon as the Yanks leave, and J&K will be decided according to the will and decision of the people who live their, Pakistan will never abandon them.
 
indian influence will decrease substantially as soon as the Yanks leave, and J&K will be decided according to the will and decision of the people who live their, Pakistan will never abandon them.

India is set to support afghanistan once we leave, India will never let that happen J&K will remain apart of it like Pakistani kashmir will remain with you, what happens if they abandon you ?
 
Article is complete nonsense.

The Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir want to free from Indian Occupation.

Pakistan will not give up it's moral stance on Kashmir.

Afghanistan is not going anywhere. The west knows they are losing, so they are trying to find an escape route.

You are right about that. America is losing in Afghanistan and most Americans want American troops to leave Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban already control 80% of Afghanistan and they were always more inclined to Pakistan than India.

Afghan Taliban support Kashmiri freedom struggle :pakistan:
 
India is set to support afghanistan once we leave, India will never let that happen J&K will remain apart of it like Pakistani kashmir will remain with you, what happens if they abandon you ?

That is their decision to make, india cannot support A-Stan without substantial amounts of boots on the ground, the Afghan security forces are too heavily compromised to be able to hold the situation, large parts of Afghan will fall into the hands of the opposition.
 
^^^^^ Yes and when taliban ban your social lives will you be cheering, so what will you give india if india gives you kashmir >
 

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