Afghanistan losing interest in trade links with Pakistan

[I.R.A]

Ok genius

Ouch that must have hurt otherwise I did not quote you when you told me

You win I am done arguing.

 

[A-Team]

Stating facts is not trolling sir, a very capable ethnic majority group will finally take back what was theirs and we will have strong ties with such a capable ally, only a matter of time.

Ok sir

Ouch that must have hurt otherwise I did not quote you when you told me

Actually it did , na just kidding neither of us can influence the decision makers, but it does show that you taking a higher moral ground while there is none.

Peace.

 

[I.R.A]

Actually it did , na just kidding neither of us can influence the decision makers, but it does show that you taking a higher moral ground while there is none.

Peace.

Why would you (Kabul) deny me (Pakistan) that? I have been second home to Afghans for decades, I hosted them, their generations have been raised here so why ????????? Let us leave religion out of it, why India is your favorite when all it did is exploit you to harm me, why is it that difficult to understand? Unless you wish me harm too?

 

[muhammadali233]

I think if you look at my post I have been advocating this as a lose-lose situation because I want Afghans to do commerce using Pakistan, Iran and all other routes that's a win-win situation.

But the knee-jerk reaction as you see from most of the PDF members is, NO we don't care about Afghan business, lets build fences

Even if we build a 30ft fence the trade between Paks and Afghans can never be stopped.No matter how much India invest its money in Afghanistan on propaganda against Pakistan,the only considerable trade done by Afghanistan is with Pakistan.
Imagine for a moment now Afghanistan has full trade relation with India.It will take around 15 days to reach the shipment whereas from Pakistan around 2 days max.
But Why Every Pakistani wants to make a Wall ?Because of what our country has suffered after taking in the refuges rather being grateful and helpful most of them only worked for the destabilisation of Pakistan.They brought in the Gun and drug culture with them which hit the KPK area the most.
A wall is necessary to stop the flow of illegal residents and terrorist and bring a full stop to opium and drug trade.These action will hit the Afghanistan economy hard but on the other hand Pakistan will prosper to its former glory.

With all the respect bro this is true and it is time to teach them that Pakistan is superior morally and in strength. You agree to it or not is your opinion but history and facts cannot deny this and Pakistan has proven it. The time for being nice and thinking good for them has long gone it is time they realise and come to terms with us, showing love and care has earned us nothing so better adopt the hard way to save us both.

Sadly,Couldn't agree more.

 

[bananarepublic]

Hate to tell you, most in Pakistan hold zero to none sympathy for Afghans, so you are, then write you're (the word your is correct as a possessive form, e.g.: Let's go to your house).">your old failed argument (let's keep taking it up the wazoo because of Muslim brotherhood or Ummah is dead). Don't believe me, ask the guys on forum most wants Afghans deported and borders sealed.
Sorry buddy, Pakistan foreign policy should be in favor of Pakistan. Trade with Afghanistan cost us billions in lost revenues not to mention heroin and weapons.
People in Pakistan are connected to Afghanistan, so, people in Pakistan are also ethnically connected to India, What's your Point?

Culturally people in the western part of Pakistan are very loyal to their people and tribes as compare to the people living in the East also the border in the west has remained porous for some time which enabled them to physically be in contact as compared to the Eastern border .Don`t take this personally but the guys on PDF are DIE HARD PATRIOT`S so making them represent the whole of Pakistan is a bit harsh. Secondly people in Pakistan do sympathize with the Afghans e.g look at the people in targeted areas of KPK...but i did not say all of Pakistan like them. it is true that they have deeply affected our economy " VERY MUCH " . but it does on mean we should deport all of them because of anger. think LOGICALLY we should only deport those which are unproductive to the economy and burden those who have contributed to the economy should stay. Also the refugees problem is not a problem that can be fixed in a few years it needs a long term plan.

 

[Hamza913]

Hope the decision makers at the top are more saner continue building fences, continue being a security state, continue creating more Nukes, while the rest of the neighbours steal your business from you. Smart thinking no ?

If Afghanistan had nukes you guys would be much better off then you are now.

Even if we build a 30ft fence the trade between Paks and Afghans can never be stopped.No matter how much India invest its money in Afghanistan on propaganda against Pakistan,the only considerable trade done by Afghanistan is with Pakistan.
Imagine for a moment now Afghanistan has full trade relation with India.It will take around 15 days to reach the shipment whereas from Pakistan around 2 days max.
But Why Every Pakistani wants to make a Wall ?Because of what our country has suffered after taking in the refuges rather being grateful and helpful most of them only worked for the destabilisation of Pakistan.They brought in the Gun and drug culture with them which hit the KPK area the most.
A wall is necessary to stop the flow of illegal residents and terrorist and bring a full stop to opium and drug trade.These action will hit the Afghanistan economy hard but on the other hand Pakistan will prosper to its former glory.


Sadly,Couldn't agree more.

A wall is too damn expensive. Also, the terrain doesn't help. We should just add more active troops along the Western border and increase security there. Our UAV's should perform regular patrols and shoot on sight.

 

[muhammadali233]

If Afghanistan had nukes you guys would be much better off then you are now.



A wall is too damn expensive. Also, the terrain doesn't help. We should just add more active troops along the Western border and increase security there. Our UAV's should perform regular patrols and shoot on sight.

Every Pakistan should donate 100 rupees for the wall everyone is desperate for the wall I know the terrain is not level as it is with India but we are in a dire need of it.It is like you killed all the mice in your house but didn't closed their source.So whatever you try after some replenishment they will come again no matter how many UAV's or Man patrol the area.

 

[SrNair]

Afghanistan is a land locked country .Perhaps they might faced bad experience in commerce field from Pakistan .
Chabhar port will transform the landscape Afghan trade deals.They will get all essential goods and oil&gas from
India and Iran .

 

[Hamza913]

Every Pakistan should donate 100 rupees for the wall everyone is desperate for the wall I know the terrain is not level as it is with India but we are in a dire need of it.It is like you killed all the mice in your house but didn't closed their source.So whatever you try after some replenishment they will come again no matter how many UAV's or Man patrol the area.

The terrain is just not ideal. The only way we can build a proper fence is if we take large amounts of Afghan territory and then build a wall on our new border. However, I don't think that would sit well with the US or the Afghan population. We can only secure our border with more troops and aircraft. If necessary, we should also launch small operations inside Afghanistan.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Really?? Lets see how far they get with "huge" Iranian markets. Its the northern alliance speaking here, they are on their last leg, once replaced by Pakthoons, Pakistan and Afghanistan will once again become brothers. Once the CPEC start rolling, it will bring world powers in line, apart from perhaps one. So who are you thy neighbors? And I am not just referring to Afghanistan. Consider it as throwing toys out of pram. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[SrNair]

From reading what the Afghan members on PDF are posting it is very clear that Afghans have no idea about the level of hatred between Pakistan and india. Let me make it clear to those of you that don't know.
PAKISTAN & india hate eachother more than israelis and Palestinians do. The hatred between Pakistanis and indians is everlasting and eternal. It will never end. No person, nation or power on earth can change that. The hatred between Pakistan and indians is the most powerful and intense hatred between any 2 sets of people on earth. Please understand this. There is no compromise on this. There is no compromise on the survival of Pakistan and our beautiful Pakistani race.



With a heavy heart I agree with you brother. Wish things were different though.

Lol

I am an Indian and entire Indians will agree with me.We have other far more important subjects in our nation that needs to be addressed .Neither GoI nor Indians hate Pakistan ,simply we dont have time for that .
If we have that much hates your patients wouldnt get good treatments in our hospitals ,your actors or actresses couldnt get opportunities in our film industry .
Pakistan is another neighbour that have some little attention seeking problem ,thats all.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol

I am an Indian and entire Indians will agree with me.We have other far more important subjects in our nation that needs to be addressed .Neither GoI nor Indians hate Pakistan ,simply we dont have time for that .
If we have that much hates your patients wouldnt get good treatments in our hospitals ,your actors or actresses couldnt get opportunities in our film industry .
Pakistan is another neighbour that have some little attention seeking problem ,thats all.

So according to you, no indian hates Pakistan. No indian sees Pakistan as indian land that was forcefully taken away from it? IF what you say us true then it's a good thing. Don't know if you're being honest or sarcastic.

 

[SrNair]

So according to you, no indian hates Pakistan. No indian sees Pakistan as indian land that was forcefully taken away from it? IF what you say us true then it's a good thing. Don't know if you're being honest or sarcastic.

Funny .what is this ?
Those western areas were always a trouble place for our Indian kings .
Those areas are not our lands we new generation Indians think differently .We only cares about our Republic of India ,totally based on our constitution .
Neither we want others lands nor we give our lands to some others .Like you said we are different ,totally different than a Pakistani.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Funny .what is this ?
Those western areas were always a trouble place for our Indian kings .
Those areas are not our lands we new generation Indians think differently .We only cares about our Republic of India ,totally based on our constitution .
Neither we want others lands nor we give our lands to some others .Like you said we are different ,totally different than a Pakistani.

Well said. I'm actually in total and complete agreement with you and this post. If the new and further generations of indians think like this then it's a very positive thing. This is one of those very few times that I agree with an indian.

 

[Hiptullha]

Why do you have to always spin stuff into a zero sum game, Pakistan is earning a couple billions in relation to the Afghan commerce, those may sound small to you but still its commerce.

On the short-term, cutting business ties with Afghanistan is definitely harmful. On the long-term however, reducing ties with Afghanistan will allow us to slowly gaining the capability to cut them off without getting hurt. And the long-term benefits trump the short-term benefit of having business ties with a reckless country frothing for our blood and land.