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Afghanistan looking to buy weapons from Pakistan.

I support anything that could end these decades long 'majera' between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Chal ab jaldi se taloqat nek karo aur mujhe Lahore ghumao :dirol:
There is a lot of press today about the "Afghan outrage" over the construction of a trench along sections of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border (in Balochistan) - what do you make of it, and why?
 
There is a lot of press today about the "Afghan outrage" over the construction of a trench along sections of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border (in Balochistan) - what do you make of it, and why?

That trench means security for both countries and that outrage is unofficial, the central government has acknowledged the benefit of the trench thus it ordered all relevant agencies to only monitor the activities and not become any barrier in the process of diggings by Pakistanis.

But I consider it might not be helpful to twart cross-border terrorism; terrorists can use any means to get their asses this side or on the other side of the border even by bribing Afghan and Pakistani officials.
 
That's a tall tale! With most Afghan officers and troops being trained by India, does anyone think that Afghanistan will equip the ANA with Pakistani weapons? Sounds pretty silly to me.

PM Ghani already refused talking weapons from india.. training.. yes.....


Offer to train Afghan troops renewed


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KABUL: Army Chief General Raheel Sharif holding talks with Afghan President Ashraf Ghani here on Thursday.—Online


ISLAMABAD: Army Chief Gen Raheel Sharif renewed on Thursday Pakistan’s offer to train Afghan security forces and promised weapons for an infantry brigade.

The offer was made during Gen Sharif’s day-long visit to Kabul for meetings with new Afghan civil leadership and military commanders.

The Army chief met President Ashraf Ghani, CEO Abdullah Abdullah, NSA Hanif Atmar, Defence Minister Gen Bismillah Muhammadi, and Afghan Chief of General Staff, Gen Sher Muhammad Karimi.


Know more: Pak-Afghan ties: the road ahead

This was Gen Sharif’s first visit to Kabul since the formation of the new government.

The visit precedes his visit to the United States from Nov 16 and Afghan President Ghani’s upcoming visit to Pakistan later this month.

General Sharif meets civilian, military leaders in Kabul
“General Raheel Sharif offered full range of training courses and facilities in Pakistan’s training institutions to Afghan security forces,” ISPR said in a statement issued from Rawalpindi.

Pakistan first offered training to Afghan security forces in 2010 at a North Atlantic Treaty Organisation conference in Brussels. The proposal was aimed at bridging trust deficit between the two countries. Three years later an Afghan defence delegation led by defence minister Bismillah Muhammadi visited Pakistan in 2013 for inspecting Pakistani training facilities. The Afghan delegation’s visit was then seen as a paradigm shift in Afghanistan’s perceptions about Pakistan.

Afghanistan was reluctant to accept the Pakistani offer because of allegations of Pakistan’s backing for Taliban insurgency.

Army Spokesman Gen Asim Bajwa said the Afghan side this time looked interested in accepting Pakistan’s offer.

But, this is not the first time either that Pakistani generals noted such interest among their Afghan interlocutors. They saw same desire after Gen Muhammadi’s 2013 visit, but nothing happened afterwards.

The offer to arm an infantry brigade could, however, be more effective way of improving relations with the Afghans.

“The COAS also offered capacity enhancement of an Infantry Brigade including provision of equipment,” the ISPR statement said.


According to the statement, Gen Sharif in his meeting with Afghan President Ghani said that the election of the new government in Afghanistan would prove to be a historic opportunity to transform Pak-Afghan relations into a ‘warm and mutually beneficial’ relationship.

Gen Sharif said that the only way to ensure regional security was to treat terrorism as our common enemy.

Other issues discussed during the visit included enhanced bilateralism between Pakistan and Afghanistan after ISAF forces drawdown, particularly enhancing Pak-Afghan border coordination mechanism, intelligence sharing and transparency.

Published in Dawn, November 7th, 2014
 
Great news, Pak should grab this opportunity with both hands.
 
Good move if true! we should enhance military ties and if deal is done, we should also send some pilots to Pakistan for training.

Time to bury the hatchets... embrace like brothers.. and bang talibitches..

That trench means security for both countries and that outrage is unofficial, the central government has acknowledged the benefit of the trench thus it ordered all relevant agencies to only monitor the activities and not become any barrier in the process of diggings by Pakistanis.

But I consider it might not be helpful to twart cross-border terrorism; terrorists can use any means to get their asses this side or on the other side of the border even by bribing Afghan and Pakistani officials.

It can thwart vehicular movement.. and bribing isnt possible.. when people on both side have the national idenity cards of both countries.. :lol:

Ive seen FC stop Afghan crossing our "borders" and than let em go... i mean why would you stop a guy who has family ties on both side.. or works or shops etc on either side...
 
That trench means security for both countries and that outrage is unofficial, the central government has acknowledged the benefit of the trench thus it ordered all relevant agencies to only monitor the activities and not become any barrier in the process of diggings by Pakistanis.

But I consider it might not be helpful to twart cross-border terrorism; terrorists can use any means to get their asses this side or on the other side of the border even by bribing Afghan and Pakistani officials.
I agree with you that the trench (or any barrier of this scale) in itself will not prove to be a significant barrier to "unwanted cross-border movement of goods and people" - these kinds of efforts have to be followed up with increased surveillance and rapid response capabilities on both sides, which is where a joint Afghan-Pakistan effort is important because shared responsibility would allow for a more efficient distribution of resources, needed to monitor and guard the fence, on both side and perhaps minimize excessive redundancies (Afghan and Pakistani posts right across from each other).

I do think that the two sides should also consider opening more manned crossings and make the cross-border travel process simpler and quicker to minimize the impact on people who have legitimate, legal interests on both sides.
 
I agree with you that the trench (or any barrier of this scale) in itself will not prove to be a significant barrier to "unwanted cross-border movement of goods and people" - these kinds of efforts have to be followed up with increased surveillance and rapid response capabilities on both sides, which is where a joint Afghan-Pakistan effort is important because shared responsibility would allow for a more efficient distribution of resources, needed to monitor and guard the fence, on both side and perhaps minimize excessive redundancies (Afghan and Pakistani posts right across from each other).

I do think that the two sides should also consider opening more manned crossings and make the cross-border travel process simpler and quicker to minimize the impact on people who have legitimate, legal interests on both sides.

Another option... joint military operations.... Intel sharing,training etc... and once Afghanistan and this region as a whole stabilises we should form some sort of visa free,free trade agreements or something...
 
Are you for real?
yes mujh jaise bhi dunya me paye jatay hayn dont yu know ?
Our entire industry has for some years been geared towards supplying the military with the tools and equipment necessary to battle insurgency. Who better then us to supply the Afghans?
china ? we also buying from them, whats the logic behind this, buying from china and selling to afghanistan thats was the question
 

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