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call me pessimist , but our generation will not be able to able to find the solution to the mess. Only way we can go forward or to say evolve and act as humans is to let the entire kashmir go on backburner and integrate entire southe east asia economies.

Hopefully our future generation will be saner and able to sort this out.
 
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Then 50,000 Pakistanis are dead in KPK and Balochistan because of Kashmir ?
Good to know.
Fictitious Story. :rofl:



@Horus wouldn't agre with it. He'll bring Mughals in it. :enjoy:


Sikhs kicked mughals out .........Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a legitimate King of the region which invovled half of pakistan , kashmir . ladakh , and parts of India............he ruled for more then half a century.

now Pakistan does not recognize the king hari singh or whatever his name was as the legitimate ruker who can decide the integration of kashmir to India as they say he was gifted kashmir by british ....................so we shall go backwards and give kashmir to the "TRUE" ruler.....
 
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You Pakistani's were part of that History, weren't you. :lol: I've quoted many times on PDF that for Pakistani's everyone other than them is a Terrorist. Hence, no point in telling Pakistan definition of Terrorism. :lol:

It's because of Islamist Terrorism, people of Kashmir are suffering. People of Jammu, Leh, Ladakh, Kashmiri Pandits and small chunk of Pious Kashmiri Muslims don't wish to be part of Land of Pure...;)

Forgot to add the Sikhs who were roasted inside their holiest Gurdwara, including the pragnent women, kids and the elderly were all 'desh darohi, atankwadis' as per the Indian interpertation of 'terrorism'. Seems like it worked with sikhs and they have since been 'tamed & domesticated '. Capiche amiga?
 
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give Kashmir to the royal family of Sikhs to manage.............after all Kashmir was ruled by Maharaja Ranjit Singh and his generals

First Indians should give sikhs some respect, hindus have made sikhs in to comic/joke character. Its hard to believe Pakistani punjabis and Indian punjabis are supposed to be same.
 
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Most terrorist plots have ties to Pakistan: study | National Post

TORONTO — Most of the major terrorist plots against the West since 2004 had links to Pakistan, including two that targeted Canada, says a study to be released today by a U.S. think tank.

In just over half of the 32 “serious” plots identified in the New America Foundation study, the participants had received either training or direction from jihadists in Pakistan.

The findings underscore Pakistan’s role as al-Qaeda’s primary safe haven, despite recent concerns about countries like Yemen, writes investigative journalist Paul Cruickshank, the study’s author.

“This paper has shown that by some measures al-Qaeda’s safe haven in Pakistan has actually become more dangerous in recent years. More serious plots emerged in the West in 2010 linked to established jihadist groups in Pakistan than in any year since al-Qaeda built up its operations in FATA in the early 2000s.”

FATA is the acronym for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, the rugged frontier region of Pakistan, where al-Qaeda and its affiliates have set up since the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

In 53% of terror plots, members of the groups involved had trained in Pakistan, compared with 6% in Yemen, 3% in Iraq and 38% where no overseas training occurred, the study says.

Forty-four percent of the plots were directed by jihadist groups in Pakistan, while 6% were directed from Yemen, 3% from Iraq and 47% had no clear overseas direction.

Most of the Western recruits who went to Pakistan had initially wanted to fight NATO forces in Afghanistan but were instead persuaded to return to their home countries to conduct terrorist attacks, it says.

“The FATA safe haven continues to be the greater threat to the United States, as well as other Western countries, given the decades-long presence of al-Qaeda’s leaders, numerous bomb making instructors, training facilities, and facilitators in the region, and the presence of several Pakistani militant groups like the Pakistani Taliban increasingly determined to attack the United States,” the report says.

Pakistan has faced heavy criticism since the United States tracked Osama bin Laden to a home near a major military base not far from the capital, Islamabad. The Pakistani military intelligence service, ISI, is widely believed to provide support to jihadist groups.

Ties to Pakistan have surfaced in several Canadian counter-terrorism probes. Momin Khawaja, a Canadian convicted for his role in a terrorist group that plotted attacks in the United Kingdom, travelled to Pakistan for training — as did one of the Toronto 18.

The RCMP disrupted an alleged terrorist plot last August with suspected links to the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region. On March 15, police charged two Winnipeg men, Ferid Imam, 30, and Maiwand Yar, 27, who are accused of travelling to Pakistan for terrorist training in 2007.

U.S. authorities have identified Mr. Imam as a training camp instructor in Pakistan who goes by the name Yousef. He allegedly trained three American jihadists who later attempted to conduct bombings in New York.

Citing U.S. interrogation documents, the study says Mr. Imam had “provided instructions about the rewards of fighting and dying for jihad, and also instructed the New York trio in how to use various weapons such as AK-47s, machine guns, and rocket propelled grenade launchers.”

The three Americans slept in Mr. Imam’s house, it says, where they were “shown videos of the 9/11 attacks, the Madrid bombings, and the London attacks, in what may have been a psychological ploy by al-Qaeda to persuade them to sign up for an operation against the United States.”

In addition to Pakistan, Somalia has emerged as a destination for young Muslim extremists. Officials say up to 20 Canadians have travelled to Somalia over the past few years to join the al-Qaeda-linked Al Shabab.
 
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First Indians should give sikhs some respect, hindus have made sikhs in to comic/joke character. Its hard to believe Pakistani punjabis and Indian punjabis are supposed to be same.


I am no way same as any Pakistani Punjabi...............I am raised in a tolerant society where I am free to abuse a hindu PM without any fear whatsoever ......where I can get same respect as any other citizen ........
 
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Most terrorist plots have ties to Pakistan: study | National Post

TORONTO — Most of the major terrorist plots against the West since 2004 had links to Pakistan, including two that targeted Canada, says a study to be released today by a U.S. think tank.

In just over half of the 32 “serious” plots identified in the New America Foundation study, the participants had received either training or direction from jihadists in Pakistan.

The findings underscore Pakistan’s role as al-Qaeda’s primary safe haven, despite recent concerns about countries like Yemen, writes investigative journalist Paul Cruickshank, the study’s author.

“This paper has shown that by some measures al-Qaeda’s safe haven in Pakistan has actually become more dangerous in recent years. More serious plots emerged in the West in 2010 linked to established jihadist groups in Pakistan than in any year since al-Qaeda built up its operations in FATA in the early 2000s.”

FATA is the acronym for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, the rugged frontier region of Pakistan, where al-Qaeda and its affiliates have set up since the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

In 53% of terror plots, members of the groups involved had trained in Pakistan, compared with 6% in Yemen, 3% in Iraq and 38% where no overseas training occurred, the study says.

Forty-four percent of the plots were directed by jihadist groups in Pakistan, while 6% were directed from Yemen, 3% from Iraq and 47% had no clear overseas direction.

Most of the Western recruits who went to Pakistan had initially wanted to fight NATO forces in Afghanistan but were instead persuaded to return to their home countries to conduct terrorist attacks, it says.

“The FATA safe haven continues to be the greater threat to the United States, as well as other Western countries, given the decades-long presence of al-Qaeda’s leaders, numerous bomb making instructors, training facilities, and facilitators in the region, and the presence of several Pakistani militant groups like the Pakistani Taliban increasingly determined to attack the United States,” the report says.

Pakistan has faced heavy criticism since the United States tracked Osama bin Laden to a home near a major military base not far from the capital, Islamabad. The Pakistani military intelligence service, ISI, is widely believed to provide support to jihadist groups.

Ties to Pakistan have surfaced in several Canadian counter-terrorism probes. Momin Khawaja, a Canadian convicted for his role in a terrorist group that plotted attacks in the United Kingdom, travelled to Pakistan for training — as did one of the Toronto 18.

The RCMP disrupted an alleged terrorist plot last August with suspected links to the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region. On March 15, police charged two Winnipeg men, Ferid Imam, 30, and Maiwand Yar, 27, who are accused of travelling to Pakistan for terrorist training in 2007.

U.S. authorities have identified Mr. Imam as a training camp instructor in Pakistan who goes by the name Yousef. He allegedly trained three American jihadists who later attempted to conduct bombings in New York.

Citing U.S. interrogation documents, the study says Mr. Imam had “provided instructions about the rewards of fighting and dying for jihad, and also instructed the New York trio in how to use various weapons such as AK-47s, machine guns, and rocket propelled grenade launchers.”

The three Americans slept in Mr. Imam’s house, it says, where they were “shown videos of the 9/11 attacks, the Madrid bombings, and the London attacks, in what may have been a psychological ploy by al-Qaeda to persuade them to sign up for an operation against the United States.”

In addition to Pakistan, Somalia has emerged as a destination for young Muslim extremists. Officials say up to 20 Canadians have travelled to Somalia over the past few years to join the al-Qaeda-linked Al Shabab.
 
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BTW ....those Afghan panelist looks very upset with Pakistan ............
 
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I am no way same as any Pakistani Punjabi...............I am raised in a tolerant society where I am free to abuse a hindu PM without any fear whatsoever ......where I can get same respect as any other citizen ........

Yes abuse hindu pm, and get beaten like dog afterwards.
 
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Forgot to add the Sikhs who were roasted inside their holiest Gurdwara, including the pragnent women, kids and the elderly were all 'desh darohi, atankwadis' as per the Indian interpertation of 'terrorism'. Seems like it worked with sikhs and they have since been 'tamed & domesticated '. Capiche amiga?

Err - wasn't it all done/supported by Land of Pure to avenge killing of Muslims while Partion? :what: Similar thing happened in Lal Masjid. ;)

Had you given the example of 84 Riots, I might would have agreed with it. It was an act of Terrorism by Congress Party. :cray:
 
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Yes abuse hindu pm, and get beaten like dog afterwards.


Then u have no idea what is INDIA.........cant be helped

Forgot to add the Sikhs who were roasted inside their holiest Gurdwara, including the pragnent women, kids and the elderly were all 'desh darohi, atankwadis' as per the Indian interpertation of 'terrorism'. Seems like it worked with sikhs and they have since been 'tamed & domesticated '. Capiche amiga?

hmmmmmmmm.......ok theek hai
 
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Indian defination of terrorism is. We occupied a Muslim state by force, we have killed 90,000+ Muslims, have hundreds of mass graves where Muslim men and boys who stood up against our occupation are buried, but its okay because whoever stands up against our occupation of their lands is a terrorist, who needs to be killed and dumped in mass graves so we can feel like victorious pricks, since our own history is full of shame and now we need to kill other people to feel worthy of ourselves.

Its your perception...I will trace back the histroy to some hundreds years back, when Hindus of the Jammu and Kashmir were tortured and forcibly converted to Muslims and started thinking that this is their own land...If you can go back to the histroy of 50 year, i will take you back to the histroy of 500 years...Would you like to take it back histroy of Kashmir to something 1000 years back..We have been tortured through out the histroy....If there is someback time now...let it be...Every thing come with a full circle...And the invaders and Islamist of 12-15th century should be aware of it at that time...
 
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Forgot to add the Sikhs who were roasted inside their holiest Gurdwara, including the pragnent women, kids and the elderly were all 'desh darohi, atankwadis' as per the Indian interpertation of 'terrorism'. Seems like it worked with sikhs and they have since been 'tamed & domesticated '. Capiche amiga?
kashmiris will be domesticated too......n u can only watch :D
 
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