Afghanistan-India Pact Defeats Pakistan Army

[EastWest]

LOl huge support you and your logics!

Taliban's owned majority and Talibans with Paksitan which HUGE MAJORITY ??? lol

Just because Taliban bombs any one who speaks against them does not mean they are popular or have huge support.

 

[Sher Malang]

thats good one seneor but your president says pakistan a twin brother & pakistanies think you as strategic depth & help you guys with taliban ? so what do you as a nation think about your twin brother ?

Pakistanis are our twin brothers not Pakistan! as long as it doesn't leave sheltering, funding, training our fugitive Afghans. Surely Pakistan can help us with Taliban because Pakistan is the one who created them and have full control on them.

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Just because Taliban bombs any one who speaks against them does not mean they are popular or have huge support.

Taliban are like Munna Bhai'es of Afghanistan.

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Well I don't know about the credibility of the source or whether Pakistan's Army has been "defeated". All I know is the Pakistanis will be catching more "Indian agents" crossing the Afghan border into Pakistan, now more than ever.

Not really, Afghanistan will not allow India to work against Pakistan it can take this pact to a disaster too.

 

[Windjammer]

Not a credible source Veeru.

For the likes of the OP, it's any port in a storm......here is one of the comments left on the news website.

Is the writer clown or Is he doing some extra effort today ! Whatever pact they sign , fact remains Karzai has no grip over Afghanistan and will never have once Allied Forces get out Of Afghanistan in 2014 or at least decrease their troops number ! Will the Taliban , so funded and supported by Pakistan notorious ISI , implement the Pact ! Instead of becoming Delhi mouth piece , writer should assume ground realities as well !

 

[karan.1970]

Like I have said again and again, Taliban are not terrorists anymore or why would the US help them getting 'diplomatic' offices in UAE? And Nato paying them to get their supplies pass through?

The definition of 'terrorist' changes by the convenience of the US and NATO. They are cutting deals with Taliban and Pakistan too has the right to talk or support them to protect its interests in that country.

Its a fair game!

Arent Taliban declared as terrorists by UN.. ?? Now if you want to discredit the resolutions etc of UN, then there is another one from 1948 that you must renounce..

 

[SpArK]

India & Afghanistan Sign MoU for Implementation of a Twinning Arrangement for Public Sector Capacity Development in Afghanistan


India and Afghanistan today entered into a Memorandum of Understanding for implementation of a twinning arrangement for public sector capacity development in Afghanistan. Under it both the countries will co-operate in the field of public sector capacity development in accordance with the applicable domestic law in force in the respective countries in which the activities are undertaken. The MoU was signed by the Union Labour & Employment Minister Shri Mallikarjun Kharge with his counterpart Ms. Amena Afzali Minister of Labour, Social Affairs, Martyrs and Disabled Government of Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

Welcoming the Afghanistan delegation Shri Mallikarjun Khage said India and Afghanistan share warm and cordial relations based on historical and cultural links and this relationship spans over centuries.

Referring to the recent visit of Afghanistan President Karzai the minister said there arwe around 4000 Indians in Afghanistan engaged in the task of rebuilding the country both through Government of India projects and private sector initiatives. The VV Giri National Labour Institute (VVGNLI) has been organising various training programmes for Afghan officials.

He said areas for further technical cooperation between VVGNLI and Government of Afghanistan can include: (a) Programmes similar to those being organised currently which can be conducted for different groups of social partners (b) capacity building programmes for the labour administrators which can be developed and organised by the VVGNLI for Afghanistan labour administrators. These programmes could focus on themes like industrial relations, social security, child labour and gender issues in labour market (c) Our institute could help the Afghanistan Government in developing a Labour Institute in Afghanistan which could provide technical expertise in designing research studies to be under taken in the areas of labour and employment there and can also organize courses on research methods in labour studies. India can share the details of its various schemes in the area of skill development, Health insurance, Social Security, OSH etc, Shri Kharge added.

Shri Kharge expressed the hope that the current MoU will go a long way in bringing about improvements in the various matters related to the World of Work in Afghanistan.

As per the MoU the cost to carry out the activities under this Agreement shall be met out of National Institution Building Project (NIBP) funds mobilized from different resources. The scope of this twinning Agreement includes Provision of advisory services for supporting policy and strategy development and systems improvement in accordance with identified needs of Afghanistan for assessments, capacity development, policy development and other advisory services including services of technical experts for specific identified needs.



India & Afghanistan Sign MoU for Implementation of a Twinning Arrangement for Public Sector Capacity Development in Afghanistan | Invest in India

 

[GURU DUTT]

Pakistanis are our twin brothers not Pakistan! as long as it doesn't leave sheltering, funding, training our fugitive Afghans. Surely Pakistan can help us with Taliban because Pakistan is the one who created them and have full control on them.

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Taliban are like Munna Bhai'es of Afghanistan.

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Not really, Afghanistan will not allow India to work against Pakistan it can take this pact to a disaster too.

i think you ment gabbar shingh's of afghanistan

 

[INDIAISM]

Btw...i think this is the perfect opportunity and time...to gain a trusted partner in the region.....
We should sign an FTA agreement with Afghanistan so that we can help them in their economical growth....

 

[karan.1970]

Well v dont consider them Terrorists means Afghan Taliban coz their fighting doesnt fall within the the definition of Terrorism instead fall in Freedom fighters which they have been doing through centuries.

They are strategic allies of Pakistan same as Green Zone Karzai regime is to India. Current regime is not going to last after US and NATO withdrawal then to whom India will look. Taliban will takeover again and car will be parked in the same parking lot from where it left.

No matter how much u jump and at the end it is always taliban who are in light, camera ,action and ur romance with karzai will not end in "AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER" coz this is not bollywood movie this reality.

Arent Taliban declared as terrorists by UN.. ?? Now if you want to discredit the resolutions etc of UN, then there is another one from 1948 that you must renounce..

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[Dalai Lama]

Not really, Afghanistan will not allow India to work against Pakistan it can take this pact to a disaster too.

I know mate. You missed my sarcasm.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/123382-fc-arrest-indian-man-chaman.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...istan-pak-afghan-border-indian-terrorism.html

 

[GURU DUTT]

Btw...i think this is the perfect opportunity and time...to gain a trusted partner in the region.....
We should sign an FTA agreement with Afghanistan so that we can help them in their economical growth....

Just like Thakur said to jai-veeru "loha garam hai mar do hatora"

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

More co-operation with Afghanistan is needed it is good we are moving ahead slowly and gradually

India want to see a stronger Afghanistan standing on it own feet both economically and militarily , not run by some terrorists organisation supported and trained by its so called friendly neighbor

Long live India -Afghanistan Friendship

 

[Windjammer]

Clinton chooses Afghan peace deal, Haqqanis inclusive


Washington—The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has signalled the United States remains open to exploring a peace deal including the Haqqani network, the militant group that U.S. officials blame for a campaign of high-profile violence that could jeopardize Washington’s plans for withdrawing smoothly from Afghanistan.

“Where we are right now is that we view the Haqqanis and other of their ilk as, you know, being adversaries and being very dangerous to Americans, Afghans and coalition members inside Afghanistan, but we are not shutting the door on trying to determine whether there is some path forward,” Clinton said when asked whether she believed members of the Haqqani network might reconcile with the Afghan government.

“It’s too soon to tell whether any of these groups or any individuals within them are serious,” she said in an interview with Reuters. Inclusion of the Haqqani network in a hoped-for peace deal — now a chief objective in the Obama administration’s Afghanistan policy after a decade of war — is a controversial idea in Washington.

Officials blame the group for last month’s attack on the U.S. embassy in Kabul and a truck bombing that injured scores of American soldiers.

The State Department is facing heat from Capitol Hill for refraining, at least so far, from officially designating the Haqqani group, which U.S. officials say is based in western Pakistan, as a terrorist organisation.

The White House has backed away from assertions from Admiral Mike Mullen, who was the top U.S. military officer until he retired last month, that Pakistani intelligence supported the Haqqani network in the September 13 embassy attack.

But President Barack Obama and others have put their sometimes-ally Pakistan on notice that it must crack down on militants or risk severing a key relationship.

According to media reports, U.S. officials have held meetings with Haqqani network representatives as part of their efforts — which have not yet yielded any visible results — to strike a peace deal, but the State Department declines to discuss details of the reconciliation process.

In recent months reconciliation has become a more prominent feature of Obama’s Afghan strategy even as U.S. and NATO soldiers continued to battle the Taliban and Haqqani militants in Afghanistan’s volatile south and east.

Earlier this year, Clinton advanced a peace deal as a key plank of regional policy for the first time, saying Washington would support a settlement between the Afghan government and those militant groups that meet certain requirements, including renouncing violence and supporting the Afghan constitution.

Despite the conciliatory signals, Clinton said the United States would stick to its military campaign that the White House hopes will make militants more likely to enter serious negotiations.

“Now, it is also true that we are still trying to kill and capture or neutralise them (the Haqqani network),” Clinton said. “And they are still trying to, you know, kill as many Americans, Afghans and coalition members as they can.”

“In many instances where there is an ongoing conflict, you are fighting and looking to talk,” Clinton said. “And then eventually maybe you are fighting and talking. And then maybe you’ve got a cease-fire. And then maybe you are just talking.”

It is unclear how quickly a peace deal could be had, as it remains unclear how military commanders can achieve and defend security improvements as the foreign force in Afghanistan gradually grows smaller.

While parts of the Taliban’s southern heartland are safer than they were, Obama will be withdrawing the extra troops he sent to Afghanistan in 2010 just as commanders’ focus turns to the rugged eastern regions where the Haqqani group are believed to operate.

Clinton did not directly address the question of designating the Haqqani network as a ‘foreign terrorist organisation,’ but suggested the United States would want to keep its options open as it seeks peace in a region known for historic merry-go-round of political and military alliances.

“It’s always difficult in this stage of a conflict, as you think through what is the resolution you are seeking and how do you best obtain it, to really know where you’ll be in two months, four months, six months,” Clinton said.

“We are going to support the Afghans and they want to continue to see whether there is any way forward or whether you can see some of the groups or their leaders willing to break with others.”—Online

 

[GURU DUTT]

Clinton chooses Afghan peace deal, Haqqanis inclusive


Washington—The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has signalled the United States remains open to exploring a peace deal including the Haqqani network, the militant group that U.S. officials blame for a campaign of high-profile violence that could jeopardize Washington’s plans for withdrawing smoothly from Afghanistan.

“Where we are right now is that we view the Haqqanis and other of their ilk as, you know, being adversaries and being very dangerous to Americans, Afghans and coalition members inside Afghanistan, but we are not shutting the door on trying to determine whether there is some path forward,” Clinton said when asked whether she believed members of the Haqqani network might reconcile with the Afghan government.

“It’s too soon to tell whether any of these groups or any individuals within them are serious,” she said in an interview with Reuters. Inclusion of the Haqqani network in a hoped-for peace deal — now a chief objective in the Obama administration’s Afghanistan policy after a decade of war — is a controversial idea in Washington.

Officials blame the group for last month’s attack on the U.S. embassy in Kabul and a truck bombing that injured scores of American soldiers.

The State Department is facing heat from Capitol Hill for refraining, at least so far, from officially designating the Haqqani group, which U.S. officials say is based in western Pakistan, as a terrorist organisation.

The White House has backed away from assertions from Admiral Mike Mullen, who was the top U.S. military officer until he retired last month, that Pakistani intelligence supported the Haqqani network in the September 13 embassy attack.

But President Barack Obama and others have put their sometimes-ally Pakistan on notice that it must crack down on militants or risk severing a key relationship.

According to media reports, U.S. officials have held meetings with Haqqani network representatives as part of their efforts — which have not yet yielded any visible results — to strike a peace deal, but the State Department declines to discuss details of the reconciliation process.

In recent months reconciliation has become a more prominent feature of Obama’s Afghan strategy even as U.S. and NATO soldiers continued to battle the Taliban and Haqqani militants in Afghanistan’s volatile south and east.

Earlier this year, Clinton advanced a peace deal as a key plank of regional policy for the first time, saying Washington would support a settlement between the Afghan government and those militant groups that meet certain requirements, including renouncing violence and supporting the Afghan constitution.

Despite the conciliatory signals, Clinton said the United States would stick to its military campaign that the White House hopes will make militants more likely to enter serious negotiations.

“Now, it is also true that we are still trying to kill and capture or neutralise them (the Haqqani network),” Clinton said. “And they are still trying to, you know, kill as many Americans, Afghans and coalition members as they can.”

“In many instances where there is an ongoing conflict, you are fighting and looking to talk,” Clinton said. “And then eventually maybe you are fighting and talking. And then maybe you’ve got a cease-fire. And then maybe you are just talking.”

It is unclear how quickly a peace deal could be had, as it remains unclear how military commanders can achieve and defend security improvements as the foreign force in Afghanistan gradually grows smaller.

While parts of the Taliban’s southern heartland are safer than they were, Obama will be withdrawing the extra troops he sent to Afghanistan in 2010 just as commanders’ focus turns to the rugged eastern regions where the Haqqani group are believed to operate.

Clinton did not directly address the question of designating the Haqqani network as a ‘foreign terrorist organisation,’ but suggested the United States would want to keep its options open as it seeks peace in a region known for historic merry-go-round of political and military alliances.

“It’s always difficult in this stage of a conflict, as you think through what is the resolution you are seeking and how do you best obtain it, to really know where you’ll be in two months, four months, six months,” Clinton said.

“We are going to support the Afghans and they want to continue to see whether there is any way forward or whether you can see some of the groups or their leaders willing to break with others.”—Online

so whats your point seneor

 

[Emmie]

What? Can it be said Sino-Pak pacts defeated Indian Army? Well, I think not.

But I like this part...

The Pakistani top brass fully understand this new predicament the pact has placed them in and, would thus simply behave giving up their practice of sending their hireling terrorists into Afghanistan and India and elsewhere. This change, alone, eliminates the danger of a disastrous war in the region.

Congrats Indians, you got it solved after 64 years..

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

so whats your point seneor

Self-satisfaction