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NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Monday that he expects a deal "in the very near future" to reopen Pakistan's border with Afghanistan for war supply shipments.

"So far, the closure of the transit routes has not had a major impact on our operations," Rasmussen said, but added the transit routes were very important and that he expected their reopening "in the very near future."

But the issue was unresolved even as NATO leaders signed off Monday on President Barack Obama's exit strategy from Afghanistan that calls for an end to combat operations next year and the withdrawal of the U.S.-led international military force by the end of 2014.

Pakistan's president Asif Ali Zardari was surely feeling some pressure. Even a normally bland NATO document took note of thanking Central Asian countries and Russia for aiding in transporting supplies, while urging Pakistan to "reopen the ground lines of communication as soon as possible."

The White House insisted there would be no meeting between President Obama and Pakistan's president, though the two did talk briefly twice on Monday. In what the White House described as "brief on-on-one conversation," the two talked as they entered the meeting in the morning. Later Obama, Zardari and Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai spoke before a group photo session.

The three leaders spoke about "their shared commitment to an Afghan-led reconciliation process to bring the war to a responsible end," according to the White House. Later, at a press conference, President Obama said he never expected the issue to be resolved at the summit but there was "diligent progress" towards getting the supply routes reopened.

Pakistan closed the ground routes after a NATO airstrike in November killed two dozen of its soldiers. NATO insists the incident was an accident. Obama offered his condolences but refused to apologize.

The United States and Pakistan have not come to an agreement on the price of opening the supply lines, according to senior administration officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Afghanistan exit strategy agreed on, Pakistan issue unresolved – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs
 
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stupid CNN didn't even realize how oxymoronic the title is? let the czechs and spaniards make up all plans they can make up, and let the norwegians and estonians give the plans all the consent and support they can possibly give - but without pakistan on board, what "strategy" are these nitwits and pansies talking about? lol, good luck with that
 
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stupid CNN didn't even realize how oxymoronic the title is? let the czechs and spaniards make up all plans they can make up, and let the norwegians and estonians give the plans all the consent and support they can possibly give - but without pakistan on board, what "strategy" are these nitwits and pansies talking about? lol, good luck with that
Lol....Beating behind bushes!!!
 
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And some peoples are burning from inside coz they have not been invited.:rofl:
 
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"So far, the closure of the transit routes has not had a major impact on our operations," Rasmussen said


"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."--Otto von Bismarck


Lol....Beating behind bushes!!!
There is a very nice phrase in Persian for these type of meetings where no fruitful result is expected ... It translates into " Sit , Talk , Leave " in English :rofl:
 
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If Pakistan won't collaborate, it will face more international isolation.
 
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If Pakistan won't collaborate, it will face more international isolation.

Aren't we already ? :azn: and do we look like we give a damn **** about the fantasized international isolation ? How is Iran doing with sanction , what progress China made after arms embargo ?
A new block is forming in the world , it is just that you guys are doing what i described in my above post ...
Over 35k causalities and massive damage to our country in this useless war has opened our eyes ... GoP will not co operate further ... NATO can do whatever the **** they want to do ... About time they learn to fight their own war and deal with Taliban !
 
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Pakistan is in a very poor situation. First of all we cannot really totally cut-off our ties with the U.S. That would be like suicide to automatically get world sanctions... It is possible only if we have an alternative, but that would be Russia, which again still recognizes us as an enemy. Some may argue that Pakistan alone would do fine but in reality that is not possible because we depend our economy on trade, investments and the truth is we can't even produce a rickshaw. The only alliance that Pakistan can benefit/progress, wouldn't worry about threats is through neighbours: China and Iran.
 
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"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."--Otto von Bismarck


But Of course , realizing the ground realities has never been a habit of your lot :D The world of fantasy suits you guys better :lol:


I think you took my words otherwise or rather negatively that was a pun for US, NATO & not for Pakistan. The whole world knows that solution of Afghan imbroglio is not possible without Pakistan on board though they may say something else on camera.
 
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stupid CNN didn't even realize how oxymoronic the title is? let the czechs and spaniards make up all plans they can make up, and let the norwegians and estonians give the plans all the consent and support they can possibly give - but without pakistan on board, what "strategy" are these nitwits and pansies talking about? lol, good luck with that

Pakistan has no part to play in the Afganistan internal matters. Pakistan should assure that its land will not be used by Haqanni network and other ISI run terror network this is what the NATO is working on.
The deal is that West,US and India will invest in the rebuilding of war torn Afganistan until 2024 by then ANA can defend themselves.

The title is correct it is pakistan assurance that is not agreed].
Your leaders are misleading you after the withdrawl of majority of NATO forces still there will be considerable special forces and military experts stationed in Kabul for detrrance against Taliban. Talivan strength is close to 10000 and ANA alone is 180,000 plus 20000 NATO forces(estimated) until 2024 are enough to stop Taliban take over.
So no need for Pakistan in this case, only assurance is to stop the infiltration from pakistani side, Which pakistan is not giving.

Scenrio after withdrawl: Terror attacks on both sides os Durand line but Afganistan will slowly but surely progress as a democratic country. If Taliban agrees the terms with Nato then the development of Afganistan with its vast mineral resources and strategic location as a gate way of cental Asia will speed up.

Pakistan has missed a golden opportunity to come to terms with NATO. Do you think the West will bend over for your blakmail by holding terror as your trump card. The latest Bannu jail break and terror attacks on the embassies increased the west determination to stabilize Afganistan without pakistan's help as it is of no use to trust you people.
 
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Pakistan has no part to play in the Afganistan internal matters. Pakistan should assure that its land will not be used by Haqanni network and other ISI run terror network this is what the NATO is working on.
The deal is that West,US and India will invest in the rebuilding of war torn Afganistan until 2024 by then ANA can defend themselves.

The title is correct it is pakistan assurance that is not agreed[/SIZE].
Your leaders are misleading you after the withdrawl of majority of NATO forces still there will be considerable special forces and military experts stationed in Kabul for detrrance against Taliban. Talivan strength is close to 10000 and ANA alone is 180,000 plus 20000 NATO forces(estimated) until 2024 are enough to stop Taliban take over.
So no need for Pakistan in this case, only assurance is to stop the infiltration from pakistani side, Which pakistan is not giving.

Scenrio after withdrawl: Terror attacks on both sides os Durand line but Afganistan will slowly but surely progress as a democratic country. If Taliban agrees the terms with Nato then the development of Afganistan with its vast mineral resources and strategic location as a gate way of cental Asia will speed up.

Pakistan has missed a golden opportunity to come to terms with NATO. Do you think the West will bend over for your blakmail by holding terror as your trump card. The latest Bannu jail break and terror attacks on the embassies increased the west determination to stabilize Afganistan without pakistan's help as it is of no use to trust you people.


Is it your analysis or dictation, whatever you said does not match with the ground realities inside Afghanistan the post soviet withdrawal scenario will be repeated again but this time it will be more organized.
 
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Pakistan has no part to play in the Afganistan internal matters. Pakistan should assure that its land will not be used by Haqanni network and other ISI run terror network this is what the NATO is working on.

Do you think the West will bend over for your blakmail by holding terror as your trump card. The latest Bannu jail break and terror attacks on the embassies increased the west determination to stabilize Afganistan without pakistan's help as it is of no use to trust you people.

Contradictory statements , huh ?

You are asking Pakistan for assistance yet planning to stabilize Afghanistan without our help ? :azn: The same what NATO is doing right now !

The West determination is very well judged by their decision to abandon Afghanistan in 2014 ... You do not need to tell because actions are speaking louder than words ...

I think you took my words otherwise or rather negatively that was a pun for US, NATO & not for Pakistan. The whole world knows that solution of Afghan imbroglio is not possible without Pakistan on board though they may say something else on camera.

Yes , I missed a bit ... Sorry for that :) Edited
 
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Is it your analysis or dictation, whatever you said does not match with the ground realities inside Afghanistan the post soviet withdrawal scenario will be repeated again but this time it will be more organized.

Post soviet withdrawl Afganistan is ruled by weak govt. with out any external support. The case now is different Afganistan has considerable backing by the west and Nato and its army is developing in addition to that US special forces and military instructors will stay.
Taliban cannot take Kabul this time.

Contradictory statements , huh ?

You are asking Pakistan for assistance yet planning to stabilize Afghanistan without our help ? :azn: The same what NATO is doing right now !

The West determination is very well judged by their decision to abandon Afghanistan in 2014 ... You do not need to tell because actions are speaking louder than words ...



Yes , I missed a bit ... Sorry for that :) Edited
The only help pakistan can do is by not allowing its territory used by terror networks apart from that Nato can take care of Afganistan.
 
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we can help by blocking transits router other than nato, we can help by sending back refugees, we can also by supporting freedom fighters, we can kill those doing terorrists act from RAW camps in Afganistan.. It would be good if others are gonna sideline Pakistan especialy India who want great share in Afgan so that it can contain Pak.
 
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we can help by blocking transits router other than nato, we can help by sending back refugees, we can also by supporting freedom fighters, we can kill those doing terorrists act from RAW camps in Afganistan.. It would be good if others are gonna sideline Pakistan especialy India who want great share in Afgan so that it can contain Pak.

India has more priorities than containing pakistan in Afganistan. It is about economy and transit route to oil rich central asia.
Pakistan is not in a state to challenge India those days are over a long time ago.
 
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