Afghanistan begins to export products directly to India for the first time

[Capt.Popeye]

First try to read and interpret what you post....... The question still is, how direct, when you have to rely on some one else port, pay them duties, use their land to pass on.....

And if as per the definition of "Direct Trade", Afghanistan was already doing this since long... Pakistan, Iran, China etc. were not dictating them the terms of trades with Europe etc. They were previously paying duties and using land of a neighbor country, they will do the same.

Regarding Indo Afghan trade; Pakistan has imposed many restrictions on what can be traded, how much movement can be allowed and frequently even obstructed/blocked trade. That does not classify as direct trade.
The rest that you are falling back on is a literal school-boy characterisation; I'm afraid.

 

[gslv mk3]

yeh, ever heard of pakistani army, navy and air force?
ever heard of china?

Take this from me,your navy would never want to engage India navaly,and would never try to provoke India
IN still has a qualitatie and quantitative edge over PN

And why areyou dragging China into this?

 

[MohitV]

Take this from me,your navy would never want to engage India navaly,and would never try to provoke India
IN still has a qualitatie and quantitative edge over PN

And why areyou dragging China into this?

because they are the side kicks of a great super hero know as CHINA!!! ...

 

[CZAR]

but still cant generate enough taxes to meet even 75% of its budget what shame lol.

Stick to theatrics and trolling, my friend. Most fact based arguments will only dent your silly ego, given how pathetically your country is doing on most parameters.

For instance, you chose to highlight the fiscal deficit. India has its own issues, we are aiming to reign in the fiscal deficit at sub 4.8% (of GDP) levels. And though these numbers are little to boast about, it still looks like the lesser of the two evils when compared to Pak's fiscal deficit of a whooping 8.7% (of GDP) for FY 2012-13.

Now, quickly go google some poverty related facts to help you save face.

 

[S.A.]

Regarding Indo Afghan trade; Pakistan has imposed many restrictions on what can be traded, how much movement can be allowed and frequently even obstructed/blocked trade. That does not classify as direct trade.
The rest that you are falling back on is a literal school-boy characterisation; I'm afraid.

Naa, Read your previous post again..... I will quote it here. As per your above post:

Direct Trade is Trade that is directly arranged for and controlled by the two parties concerned. I.E. in all its implications, negotiations, setting of conditions and tariffs, arranging finances such as L.Cs, deciding what items to be traded etc etc.

How India and Afghanistan independently can set these terms.... How they can by pass Iran on these matters... How they will control the trade on Iranian soil... And if they can't, then its not a direct trade...

 

[karan.1970]

but still cant generate enough taxes to meet even 75% of its budget what shame lol.

Atleaset not having to go asking for bailouts from IMF

 

[Capt.Popeye]

yeh, ever heard of pakistani army, navy and air force?
ever heard of china?

Yes, we've heard of paksitani navy, army and air force.
In 1971 and 1999 we last heard of them, not much else.

Yes, we've also heard of china.
But never seen them in 1971 or 1999; not on the paksitani side.
Though their help was earnestly sought in those times of 'dire-straits'.
So anything else? apart from calling "Nanny", in times of trouble?

 

[karan.1970]

So you are agreeing that heading is wrong..... Afghanistan can never export or import directly (except from its neighbors) being a land locked country. There will always be a middle man for Afghanistan... This is another matter who is more reliable and who is not.....

Not really. Will depend on the terms of the trade agreement. For example, if India is willing to take delivery in Iran and own the transportation to India, then there is no middle man. This was something which wasnt possible when Pakistan as involved

 

[qamar1990]

Take this from me,your navy would never want to engage India navaly,and would never try to provoke India
IN still has a qualitatie and quantitative edge over PN

And why areyou dragging China into this?

they have a hand in gawadar, and you putting your ships near gawadar will not sit well.

Stick to theatrics and trolling, my friend. Most fact based arguments will only dent your silly ego, given how pathetically your country is doing on most parameters.

For instance, you chose to highlight the fiscal deficit. India has its own issues, we are aiming to reign in the fiscal deficit at sub 4.8% (of GDP) levels. And though these numbers are little to boast about, it still looks like the lesser of the two evils when compared to Pak's fiscal deficit of a whooping 8.7% (of GDP) for FY 2012-13.

Now, quickly go google some poverty related facts to help you save face.

im glad you realize about how much more poverty india has, refer to the bolded part lol.

pakistan is in a civil war, in five years pakistan will either do same as india or better.

Atleaset not having to go asking for bailouts from IMF

how does india meet its budget? when it doesnt have enough money?

 

[gslv mk3]

they have a hand in gawadar, and you putting your ships near gawadar will not sit well.

Do you think China would do that?with India so close??
And why should they??

 

[karan.1970]

how does india meet its budget? when it doesnt have enough money?

We find money... we are after all baniyas

 

[qamar1990]

Yes, we've heard of paksitani navy, army and air force.
In 1971 and 1999 we last heard of them, not much else.

Yes, we've also heard of china.
But never seen them in 1971 or 1999; not on the paksitani side.
Though their help was earnestly sought in those times of 'dire-straits'.
So anything else? apart from calling "Nanny", in times of trouble?

the last time we fought, india got its as s whooped, we still hold the highest peak in kargil.

and the reason china was brought up is becuase gawadar is being run by them, and they will bring their ships into gawadar, so do you think indian navy parking its vessels 100 miles away will sit well them?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Naa, Read your previous post again..... I will quote it here. As per your above post:

Direct Trade is Trade that is directly arranged for and controlled by the two parties concerned. I.E. in all its implications, negotiations, setting of conditions and tariffs, arranging finances such as L.Cs, deciding what items to be traded etc etc.

How India and Afghanistan independently can set these terms.... How they can by pass Iran on these matters... How they will control the trade on Iranian soil... And if they can't, then its not a direct trade...

They have. It is a bi-partite trade arrangement between India and Afghanistan which passes through Iran. Chah Bahar was financed, built and is being operated by India. Iran does not need Chah Bahar yet in any major terms. While Afghanistan does; as an alternative to the Pakistani route. This is a need shared by India too. Later even countries are likely to climb on the Chah Bahar 'band-wagon', keep watching.

Similarly the rail-link to the Afghan border will be built and operated by India. Iran is and will continue to earn the revenues from the link. While buttressing its strategic relationship with Afghanistan. Why do you think Iran facilitated it all? All the aspects of it as I explained earlier.

It is simply a three way arrangement; which is 'win-win' for all the tri-partite partners. But as I said more players will enter. Watch for the Russians and even NATO and the Americans. If Balochistan does not stabilise; then even the Chinese will need a shorter and economical (and most of all a more secured) route to the Sea. Both China and India have made large investments in Afghanistan.

 

[qamar1990]

We find money... we are after all baniyas

.......,........

Do you think China would do that?with India so close??
And why should they??

do i think?

have you been reading the news?
they are already doing it.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

the last time we fought, india got its as s whooped, we still hold the highest peak in kargil.

and the reason china was brought up is becuase gawadar is being run by them, and they will bring their ships into gawadar, so do you think indian navy parking its vessels 100 miles away will sit well them?

Hey Greenhorn; you have'nt even read the thread or understood what it is all about or what is happening in Chah Bahar.
You are just clueless about the proceedings, but are persistently spewing around.
You simply don't seem to even know $hit from molasses.
So go some place else, now.