Afghan Taliban leader taught, preached in Pakistan, despite government vow to crack down

[A-Team]

Why is this news anymore?

While Afghans have been issuing visas to Pak Talis with one way ticket to the Afterlife [ Mullah Fazullah will follow suit ] , Afghan Talis on the other hand are enjoying the nice warm weather in Quetta

Moral of the story : Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-taliban-quetta-idUSKCN1290ZP

For 15 years until his sudden disappearance in May, the new leader of the Afghan Taliban insurgency openly taught and preached at the Al Haaj mosque in a dusty town in southwestern Pakistan, associates and students told Reuters.

Details of Haibatullah Akhundzada's life in Kuchlak, near the city of Quetta, have not previously been reported, and could put further pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down on militants openly living there.

@Spring Onion

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Why is this news anymore?

While Afghans have been issuing visas to Pak Talis with one way ticket to the Afterlife [ Mullah Fazullah will follow suit ] , Afghan Talis on the other hand are enjoying the nice warm weather in Quetta

Moral of the story : Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-taliban-quetta-idUSKCN1290ZP

For 15 years until his sudden disappearance in May, the new leader of the Afghan Taliban insurgency openly taught and preached at the Al Haaj mosque in a dusty town in southwestern Pakistan, associates and students told Reuters.

Details of Haibatullah Akhundzada's life in Kuchlak, near the city of Quetta, have not previously been reported, and could put further pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down on militants openly living there.

@Spring Onion

It's not news.

 

[Counterpunch]

We do not have the technology yet to pick out the potential future terrorist from millions of Afghans that we are hosting for decades now. And we are not bold enough to tell our Muslim brethren to stay inside the camps and not go out and seek education, impart education, practice your religion freely and do businesses at your will at the cost of our own local businesses

We are working to improve our skills and the bundles of thanks we are getting in return from Afghans are helping us learn fast.

 

[Arsalan]

Why is this news anymore?

While Afghans have been issuing visas to Pak Talis with one way ticket to the Afterlife [ Mullah Fazullah will follow suit ] , Afghan Talis on the other hand are enjoying the nice warm weather in Quetta

Moral of the story : Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.
________________________

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-taliban-quetta-idUSKCN1290ZP

For 15 years until his sudden disappearance in May, the new leader of the Afghan Taliban insurgency openly taught and preached at the Al Haaj mosque in a dusty town in southwestern Pakistan, associates and students told Reuters.

Details of Haibatullah Akhundzada's life in Kuchlak, near the city of Quetta, have not previously been reported, and could put further pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down on militants openly living there.

@Spring Onion

Actually, this is NOT news anymore, it is the same old propaganda that i have now come to expect as a routine matter!!

While pointing out some one working for Taliban who have lived in Pakistan in the past, do not forget that there are MILLIONS of Afghani people living here and a major part of your ANA also have people who have been in Pakistan. So they too are trained and educated and taught and preached in Pakistan? That makes ANA a Pakistani stooge?

Afghanistan have to clean up its own mess and it is doing absolutely doing nothing to do that other than blaming Pakistan or others. The day they start working properly and with honesty things will change for better! Unfortunately, for the hole region, this do not seems to be happening any time soon. The screw up by Afghan forces in Kundz is a recent example of extremely incompetent forces.

 

[A-Team]

Actually, this is NOT news anymore, it is the same old propaganda that i have now come to expect as a routine matter!!

While pointing out some one working for Taliban who have lived in Pakistan in the past, do not forget that there are MILLIONS of Afghani people living here and a major part of your ANA also have people who have been in Pakistan. So they too are trained and educated and taught and preached in Pakistan? That makes ANA a Pakistani stooge?

Afghanistan have to clean up its own mess and it is doing absolutely doing nothing to do that other than blaming Pakistan or others. The day they start working properly and with honesty things will change for better! Unfortunately, for the hole region, this do not seems to be happening any time soon. The screw up by Afghan forces in Kundz is a recent example of extremely incompetent forces.

Arsalan you know that I am perfectly reasonable Afghan and I know you are a reasonable Pakistani, it is not that Afghans have no faults yes we do, we have made mistakes in the past and continue to make some right now but in order for Afghans and Pakistanis to make it work they need to be honest with each other, you know very well that Ghani wanted and still wants to make peace with Pakistan and thus takes action against those threatening Pakistani interest and he is genunie in his outreach but you do know that Pakistan can and must her influence to bring these people to negotiation or force them out of Pakistan, I think this a reasonable request that sane Pakistanis must have talk internally.

 

[Riz]

Why is this news anymore?

While Afghans have been issuing visas to Pak Talis with one way ticket to the Afterlife [ Mullah Fazullah will follow suit ] , Afghan Talis on the other hand are enjoying the nice warm weather in Quetta

Moral of the story : Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.
________________________

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-taliban-quetta-idUSKCN1290ZP

For 15 years until his sudden disappearance in May, the new leader of the Afghan Taliban insurgency openly taught and preached at the Al Haaj mosque in a dusty town in southwestern Pakistan, associates and students told Reuters.

Details of Haibatullah Akhundzada's life in Kuchlak, near the city of Quetta, have not previously been reported, and could put further pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down on militants openly living there.

@Spring Onion

Go first finish Taliban on the Tajikistan afghanistan Border, they taken Helmand now they are Heading towards 5 more districts

 

[Sine Nomine]

Haibatullah Akhundzada's

One day he will be welcomed like Hikmatyar have been.

 

[manojb]

Strategic asset of deep state

 

[A-Team]

One day he will be welcomed like Hikmatyar have been.

As an Afghan he is welcome right now.

 

[IceCold]

Why is this news anymore?

While Afghans have been issuing visas to Pak Talis with one way ticket to the Afterlife [ Mullah Fazullah will follow suit ] , Afghan Talis on the other hand are enjoying the nice warm weather in Quetta

Moral of the story : Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.
________________________

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-taliban-quetta-idUSKCN1290ZP

For 15 years until his sudden disappearance in May, the new leader of the Afghan Taliban insurgency openly taught and preached at the Al Haaj mosque in a dusty town in southwestern Pakistan, associates and students told Reuters.

Details of Haibatullah Akhundzada's life in Kuchlak, near the city of Quetta, have not previously been reported, and could put further pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down on militants openly living there.

@Spring Onion

First of all i dont buy this bs specially the way its described but lets be clear about one thing Pakistan will do what favours Pakistan and no body else. From 2001 to date the new government in Afghanistan has shown no intent of improving bilateral ties with Pakistan. On the contrary it has jumped on the Indian Bandwagon and speaks their tongue. Not just that but openly allows anti Pakistan elements to operate from there.
We have remained hospitable to Afghans for more than 3 decades, no more. If Afghanistan wants to play hard ball and become a party to Indo Pak conflict than rest assured Afghanistan will be replied in the same Coin.
As for Afghans issuing one way visa, dont make me laugh. First get a country before talking like you own the place. Right now your government does not have authority beyond kabul and certain places and here you are talking big. If it wasnt for the americans we know damn well where ANA stands. So yeah save it.

 

[Khan_21]

As an Afghan he is welcome right now.

Hekmatyar should never been welcomed. How many millions did he kill during the civil war ? These sort of deals is exactly the reason why you guys are in such a mess. Why such short memories? The guy razed down kabul and killed thousands of people.

Your government should be making deals with people that hold 10-30 % of your land.

 

[pakistani342]

As an Afghan he is welcome right now.

Yes last week the visiting Pak Senators precisely stated this: that now Hakmetyar is now a Good Taliban -- they said now like a Catholic he's made his confession and has gone from Bad Terrorist to Good Terrorist.

I guess the Afghan government does make a distinction between Good and Bad Terrorist.

 

[A-Team]

First of all i dont buy this bs specially the way its described but lets be clear about one thing Pakistan will do what favours Pakistan and no body else. From 2001 to date the new government in Afghanistan has shown no intent of improving bilateral ties with Pakistan. On the contrary it has jumped on the Indian Bandwagon and speaks their tongue. Not just that but openly allows anti Pakistan elements to operate from there.
We have remained hospitable to Afghans for more than 3 decades, no more. If Afghanistan wants to play hard ball and become a party to Indo Pak conflict than rest assured Afghanistan will be replied in the same Coin.
As for Afghans issuing one way visa, dont make me laugh. First get a country before talking like you own the place. Right now your government does not have authority beyond kabul and certain places and here you are talking big. If it wasnt for the americans we know damn well where ANA stands. So yeah save it.

All i hear is blah blah, what are you on about?

 

[ebrahym]

Pakistan is not playing ball, will only do business when Afghans defeat her proxies on the battlefield, until then this circus will continue.

bro withh all due respect
stop this stupidity of blaming PAK over everything and realize a simple fact
Afghans have to work for Afghanistan
its not Pakistan's responsibility
we have lost much for Afghanistan
if you want us to leave you alone
give us a reason?
either fight back or make peace
u have been fighting for more than a decade

just give amnesty to haqqani as well and Talibans will fall like palace of cards

 

[A-Team]

Yes last week the visiting Pak Senators precisely stated this: that now Hakmetyar is now a Good Taliban -- they said now like a Catholic he's made his confession and has gone from Bad Terrorist to Good Terrorist.

I guess the Afghan government does make a distinction between Good and Bad Terrorist.

Nope we don't, there is a difference between them accpeting our concstiatuon, laying down their arms and living peaceful in the country and also promising not to attack a neighbouring country.

Pakistan's definition of good Tali is " you can attack afghanistan, kill their people no prbs" as long as you don't bother Pakistan, but TTP is bad because the attack Pakistan. For us the good Talis are those who abide by the law, disarm and become peaceful citizens of course they will have to account what they did in the last one decade or more.

See the difference?

Hekmatyar should never been welcomed. How many millions did he kill during the civil war ? These sort of deals is exactly the reason why you guys are in such a mess. Why such short memories? The guy razed down kabul and killed thousands of people.

Your government should be making deals with people that hold 10-30 % of your land.

You need to read how reconciliation has worked in Africa and former Yugoslavia.