Afghan ‘Peace Plan’ Revealed In Leaked Document

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hi moderators, @Dubious, please take care of this @a--team

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Any document accepted from a foreign power will complete colonization. Pakistan has not been able to get rid or free itself of its colonial past, Afghans will rue the day they agreed foriegn influence.

 

[lemurian]

What do you think,will it be one constitution for all or something like India where some provines/regions(maybe all) have their own laws(sharia) but on state level,secular?

India does not have any such arrangement. Constitution of India is applicable to all territories, subject to certain restrictions in Art. 370. Personal law including Law relating to marriage, adoption, inheritance etc. are religion specific, not regional.

 

[T-123456]

India does not have any such arrangement. Constitution of India is applicable to all territories. Personal law including Law relating to marriage, adoption, inheritance etc. are religion specific, not regional.

Take a good look at the map and tell me im wrong.
Yellow; Countries where sharia applies in personal status issues(such as marriage,divorce,inhertance,and child custody)
Its a law,what is secular about such a law?

 

[lemurian]

Take a good look at the map and tell me im wrong.
Yellow; Countries where sharia applies in personal status issues(such as marriage,divorce,inhertance,and child custody)
Its a law,what is secular about such a law?

Your original phrasing is not correct. India's Constitution applies to all. There is no provincial application of Sharia Law unlike Aceh in Indonesia. The Constitution is also secular in character. Article 44 states that The State shall endeavour to secure for citizens a uniform civil code throughout the territory of India. However in practice, Secularism in India simply means equal treatment of all religions. The State does not have any religious character, nor give preference to one religion over another. Also, Personal law is not region-specific, but religion specific.

 

[T-123456]

Your original phrasing is not correct. India's Constitution applies to all. There is no provincial application of Sharia Law unlike Aceh in Indonesia. The Constitution is also secular in character. Article 44 states that The State shall endeavour to secure for citizens a uniform civil code throughout the territory of India. However in practice, Secularism in India simply means equal treatment of all religions. The State does not have any religious character, nor give preference to one religion over another. Also, Personal law is not region-specific, but religion specific.

Ok,lets call it religion based.
So,how is it secular when Muslim in India is at the mercy of some cleric for personal issues?

 

[lemurian]

Ok,lets call it religion based.
So,how is it secular when Muslim in India is at the mercy of some cleric for personal issues?

It depends. For example, if a Muslim is married under Special Marriage Act, 1954, he would be subject to that Act. But, yes, the bulk of Muslim personal Law in India is uncodified, and all attempts at codifying the same have been frustrated. Due to Political reasons.

https://www.thehindu.com/2003/08/10/stories/2003081000221500.htm

 

[T-123456]

It depends. For example, if a Muslim is married under Special Marriage Act, 1954, he would be subject to that Act. But, yes, the bulk of Muslim personal Law in India is uncodified, and all attempts at codifying the same have been frustrated. Due to Political reasons.

https://www.thehindu.com/2003/08/10/stories/2003081000221500.htm

In my country,this will never happen,all citizens have the same rights.

 

[Dubious]

@a--team Please mind your language. We do not tolerate personal insults!
Others please refrain and keep it civil

 

[rashid.sarwar]

Taliban has one condition for American invaders, leave Afghanistan and we will take care of the rest ourselves...

 

[a--team]

Taliban has one condition for American invaders, leave Afghanistan and we will take care of the rest ourselves...

Invaders? Who gives a rat's *** what a foreign backed proxy think.

Why they leaked this..
Afghan dogs don't want peace at any cost. They want billions to be flowing by us.

Why they leaked this..
Afghan dogs don't want peace at any cost. They want billions to be flowing by us.

@Dubious, Hope you do notice garbage like this too!

 

[TheDarkKnight]

You should know the abc of geopolitics, the US's interest is to continue their military presence in Afghanistan and we have convergence of interests there until there is a strong national security apparatus.

Sure there is an interest, but at what cost. The troop loss has been manageable, but the 17 years of war fatigue and financial cost. Staying in Afghanistan also requires dealing with Pakistan or Iran or Russia which is not easy. It needs to be seen how much Trump is able to steer the American foreign policy; he sentiment here is why should we spend money? why should we send our troops - even NATO is getting criticized by Trump!

Sorry to break it to you, but seems your investments on bearded barbarians didnt pay off in Syria as well, seems Asad is here to stay on your flank!! Bet that keeps you awake at night.

Now come on be honest - was it only Turkey in the anti Asad camp? The victory is for Russia and Iran here - GCC and the west camp - that includes your financier and protector US - has lost in removing Asad. Now two factors will help Turkey overcome any geo political challenge, unity and strong professional military. These are two things that Afghans wish to have; in fact if they even had one of these things then the situation would have been a lot better!

US withdrawal from Syria should be quite alarming for Afghans. ISIS is not defeated yet a withdrawal was announced. One wonders if US, or Trump, would do the same in Afghanistan as well? After all OBL is dead, Afghans have ANA, and Taliban are not as bad as AQ or ISIS!

Invaders? Who gives a rat's *** what a foreign backed proxy think.

This is sad; all parties in Afghanistan are foreign backed in one way. The Govt is foreign backed by US dollars, the ANA is foreign backed by US Army, The Taliban by … etc etc.​