Afghan National Kills High Ranking US Army Officers
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What? US has sent "troops" to "develop" Afghanistan ? Serious ??
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Majority of Afghanistan's is full of die hard/hardcore Muslims (No way anyone can deny this fact), and the same goes for its loose hanging Army. When you try to play with religion in Afghanistan, that's when your literally asking for trouble (or death).. You dont see Taliban burning Holy Qurans do you?
When Americans laid their first foot in Afghanistan, they had completely lost the hearts of the majority Hardcore Muslims. But now when their playing with Qurans, they can kiss good bye to the Moderate Muslims who atleast tried to understand them.
The Fuccc with American seeking to win hearts and minds.
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You assholes burn our holy books and we will fight against you from any country. Only with respect you will get respect, but American forces disrespected Muslims. This will be their down fall within Afghanistan. Lakh LANAT.
Compared to taliban, anything is development. Atleast now, women can legally work , go to school etc and people don't have to live in fear of getting stoned by the taliban
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What about the numerous Hindu mandirs that have been destroyed and razed in Pakistan in the name of development? Or the disappearances of 35-40 Hindu women monthly in Pakistan to forcibly convert them to Islam? Or the usage of Hindu mandirs to store weapons and ammunition? These facts are available anywhere on the Internet, go check them. I'm not intending to go off-topic but I cited those examples to prove a point here.
How on earth can u expect respect when u fail to give the same? Double standards much??
I in no way support the burning of the Quran. What hapenned was very wrong indeed. But the person who burned the book doesn't deserve death penalty , and in this case , people who had nothing to do with the burning of the book are getting killed. Death penalty is only justified when you take other person's life , rape , or disabling injuries. If you burn the bible in the US , i doubt you will get more than an year in prison. I bet bibles and other religious texts are burnt by extremist muslims , but people keep their calm and don't kill.
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American officers killed in Afghan Interior Ministry
(Reuters) - Two American officers were shot dead at close range inside Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry on Saturday, a U.S. official said, as rage gripped the country for a fifth day over the burning of the Muslim holy book at a NATO base.
NATO recalled all staff working at ministries in the Afghan capital Kabul following the attack, with its top commander in Afghanistan calling the killer a "coward."
"For obvious force protection reasons, I have also taken immediate measures to recall all other ISAF personnel working in ministries in and around Kabul," said General John Allen, adding that the attacker’s actions "will not go unanswered."
The two American officers, advisers to the ministry, were fired on at close range, a U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Taliban claimed responsibility for the shootings, which it said were in retaliation for the desecration of copies of the Koran by foreign troops at NATO’s Bagram air base. Afghan security sources said the two dead were a U.S. colonel and major with NATO forces.
U.S. President Barack Obama has sent a letter to his Afghan counterpart, Hamid Karzai, apologising for what Washington says was the unintentional burning of the Korans, after Afghan labourers found charred copies while collecting rubbish.
The Koran burnings ignited anti-Western fury. Thousands have taken to the streets and at least 27 people have been killed in the protests. Two American soldiers were shot dead on Thursday by an Afghan national army soldier who joined the rallies.
HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE
An Afghan security source said the American officers killed on Saturday had been found dead with gunshot wounds deep inside the heavily fortified Interior Ministry.
"There is CCTV there and special locks. The killer would have had to have the highest security (clearance) to get to the room where they were killed," the source told Reuters.
NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) confirmed two of its servicemen had been killed in Kabul but declined to say if the shooter was a member of the Afghan security forces.
If the shootings are linked to Afghan forces, new questions will arise about Taliban infiltration as well as their ability to secure Afghanistan once NATO combat forces withdraw in 2014.
NATO is supposed to be moving away from a combat role to an advise-and-assist mission as early as next year. That will require NATO to place more staff in ministries.
"The fact that NATO is recalling staff from ministries suggests they are worried about a deep malaise in the Afghan security forces, that they expect more of these attacks," said Kamran Bokhari at STRATFOR global intelligence firm.
The Koran burnings have underscored the deep cultural mistrust between Afghans and the foreign troops who invaded a decade ago to oust the Taliban from power.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said in a statement four high-ranking Americans had been killed. The Islamist group often exaggerate and inflate claims of casualties.
"A devoted Mujahid hero, Abdul Rahman, killed four high-ranking Americans," he said.
"The attack came from the mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate in revenge for the American soldiers’ repeated desecration of our religion, especially the latest intentional incident in the Bagram airfield which they burnt Korans," he added, using another name the group call themselves.
DESECRATION
An Afghan security source said the shooting of the two Americans in the Interior Ministry could be connected to the burning of the Korans.
Muslims consider the Koran to be the literal word of God and treat each copy with deep reverence. Desecration is considered one of the worst forms of blasphemy.
Hundreds of people tried to overrun a compound in the northern Kunduz province housing workers from the U.N. Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, but were held back by police, Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi said.
In April last year protesters angry over the burning of Korans by an obscure pastor in the United States stormed a U.N. compound in northern Balkh province, killing seven people.
The protests could dent plans for a strategic pact that Washington is considering with Kabul which would allow a sharply reduced number of Western troops to stay in the country well beyond their combat exit deadline.
There have been several instances of Afghan troops and forces turning on NATO troops. NATO servicemen and staff live and work primarily at their bases, but also frequent the barricaded Afghan ministries dotted around Kabul on official business.
General Allen said an investigation had been launched. A U.S. official described the pullout of staff from Afghan ministries as a precaution.
Read more: American officers killed in Afghan Interior Ministry
(Reuters) - Two American officers were shot dead at close range inside Afghanistan’s Interior Ministry on Saturday, a U.S. official said, as rage gripped the country for a fifth day over the burning of the Muslim holy book at a NATO base.
NATO recalled all staff working at ministries in the Afghan capital Kabul following the attack, with its top commander in Afghanistan calling the killer a "coward."
"For obvious force protection reasons, I have also taken immediate measures to recall all other ISAF personnel working in ministries in and around Kabul," said General John Allen, adding that the attacker’s actions "will not go unanswered."
The two American officers, advisers to the ministry, were fired on at close range, a U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Taliban claimed responsibility for the shootings, which it said were in retaliation for the desecration of copies of the Koran by foreign troops at NATO’s Bagram air base. Afghan security sources said the two dead were a U.S. colonel and major with NATO forces.
U.S. President Barack Obama has sent a letter to his Afghan counterpart, Hamid Karzai, apologising for what Washington says was the unintentional burning of the Korans, after Afghan labourers found charred copies while collecting rubbish.
The Koran burnings ignited anti-Western fury. Thousands have taken to the streets and at least 27 people have been killed in the protests. Two American soldiers were shot dead on Thursday by an Afghan national army soldier who joined the rallies.
HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE
An Afghan security source said the American officers killed on Saturday had been found dead with gunshot wounds deep inside the heavily fortified Interior Ministry.
"There is CCTV there and special locks. The killer would have had to have the highest security (clearance) to get to the room where they were killed," the source told Reuters.
NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) confirmed two of its servicemen had been killed in Kabul but declined to say if the shooter was a member of the Afghan security forces.
If the shootings are linked to Afghan forces, new questions will arise about Taliban infiltration as well as their ability to secure Afghanistan once NATO combat forces withdraw in 2014.
NATO is supposed to be moving away from a combat role to an advise-and-assist mission as early as next year. That will require NATO to place more staff in ministries.
"The fact that NATO is recalling staff from ministries suggests they are worried about a deep malaise in the Afghan security forces, that they expect more of these attacks," said Kamran Bokhari at STRATFOR global intelligence firm.
The Koran burnings have underscored the deep cultural mistrust between Afghans and the foreign troops who invaded a decade ago to oust the Taliban from power.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said in a statement four high-ranking Americans had been killed. The Islamist group often exaggerate and inflate claims of casualties.
"A devoted Mujahid hero, Abdul Rahman, killed four high-ranking Americans," he said.
"The attack came from the mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate in revenge for the American soldiers’ repeated desecration of our religion, especially the latest intentional incident in the Bagram airfield which they burnt Korans," he added, using another name the group call themselves.
DESECRATION
An Afghan security source said the shooting of the two Americans in the Interior Ministry could be connected to the burning of the Korans.
Muslims consider the Koran to be the literal word of God and treat each copy with deep reverence. Desecration is considered one of the worst forms of blasphemy.
Hundreds of people tried to overrun a compound in the northern Kunduz province housing workers from the U.N. Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, but were held back by police, Interior Ministry spokesman Sediq Sediqqi said.
In April last year protesters angry over the burning of Korans by an obscure pastor in the United States stormed a U.N. compound in northern Balkh province, killing seven people.
The protests could dent plans for a strategic pact that Washington is considering with Kabul which would allow a sharply reduced number of Western troops to stay in the country well beyond their combat exit deadline.
There have been several instances of Afghan troops and forces turning on NATO troops. NATO servicemen and staff live and work primarily at their bases, but also frequent the barricaded Afghan ministries dotted around Kabul on official business.
General Allen said an investigation had been launched. A U.S. official described the pullout of staff from Afghan ministries as a precaution.
Read more: American officers killed in Afghan Interior Ministry
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Nato pulls out of Afghan ministries after Kabul attack
Nato has withdrawn all its personnel from Afghan ministries after two senior US officers were shot dead in the interior ministry building in Kabul.
Nato said an "individual" had turned his gun on the officers, believed to be a colonel and major, and had not yet been identified or caught.
Nato commander Gen John Allen condemned the attack as "cowardly".
The shootings come amid five days of deadly protests over the burning of copies of the Koran by US soldiers.
Taliban statement
The interior ministry was put in lock-down after the shootings, officials said.
The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says eight shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance.
Local media reports said the gunman was an Afghan policeman but this has not been confirmed.
The reports suggest the incident followed a "verbal clash".
Gen Allen said he condemned the attack, adding: "We will pursue all leads to find the person responsible. The perpetrator of this attack is a coward whose actions will not go unanswered."
He said: "For obvious force protection reasons, I have also taken immediate measures to recall all other Isaf personnel working in ministries in and around Kabul."
But Gen Allen added: "We are committed to our partnership with the government of Afghanistan to reach our common goal of a peaceful, stable and secure Afghanistan in the near future."
The UK Foreign Office confirmed it had "withdrawn civilian mentors and advisers from institutions in the city as a temporary measure".
The Pentagon said the US condemned the killings "in the strongest possible terms".
Press secretary George Little said Afghan Defence Minister Gen Abdul Rahim Wardak had called US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta to apologise for the shootings.
Mr Little said Mr Panetta was calling on Afghanistan to take decisive action to protect Nato forces.
Isaf spokesman Brig Gen Carsten Jacobson said that Nato could not yet reveal the identity of those killed.
He also said: "We cannot confirm where the killer came from, what his nationality was, whether he was in uniform or not, all these questions are not known."
Early reports suggest the two officers were shot in the ministry's command and control centre.
The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul says this is where representatives of 34 provinces meet to plan security.
He quotes sources as saying that Interior Minister Bismullah Khan was having a meeting with senior Western officials elsewhere in the building when the shooting took place.
The Taliban said in a website statement that it carried out the attack in response to the Koran burnings.
But Gen Jacobson would not be drawn on any link to the protests.
He said: "We have seen an emotional week, we have seen a busy week - but it would be too early to say this incident was linked."
He added: "It is very regretful to see the loss of life again on this day, and that includes the loss of life that we have seen around demonstrations."
Obama apology
Angry protests over the burning of the Korans continued on Saturday, with a UN compound in the city of Kunduz set alight.
Four people were killed and dozens injured in clashes in the city, according to local doctors. Three more people were killed in the southern province of Logar.
The governor's house in Laghman province also came under attack on Saturday and there were demonstrations in Paktia, Nangarhar and Sari Pul provinces.
Nearly 30 people have died since the protests began on Tuesday.
US personnel apparently inadvertently put the books into a rubbish incinerator at Bagram air base, near Kabul.
US President Barack Obama has apologised for the Koran-burning incident.
In a letter to his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai, Mr Obama said the books had been "unintentionally mishandled".
Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book with deep reverence.
BBC News - Nato pulls out of Afghan ministries after Kabul attack
Nato has withdrawn all its personnel from Afghan ministries after two senior US officers were shot dead in the interior ministry building in Kabul.
Nato said an "individual" had turned his gun on the officers, believed to be a colonel and major, and had not yet been identified or caught.
Nato commander Gen John Allen condemned the attack as "cowardly".
The shootings come amid five days of deadly protests over the burning of copies of the Koran by US soldiers.
Taliban statement
The interior ministry was put in lock-down after the shootings, officials said.
The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says eight shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance.
Local media reports said the gunman was an Afghan policeman but this has not been confirmed.
The reports suggest the incident followed a "verbal clash".
Gen Allen said he condemned the attack, adding: "We will pursue all leads to find the person responsible. The perpetrator of this attack is a coward whose actions will not go unanswered."
He said: "For obvious force protection reasons, I have also taken immediate measures to recall all other Isaf personnel working in ministries in and around Kabul."
But Gen Allen added: "We are committed to our partnership with the government of Afghanistan to reach our common goal of a peaceful, stable and secure Afghanistan in the near future."
The UK Foreign Office confirmed it had "withdrawn civilian mentors and advisers from institutions in the city as a temporary measure".
The Pentagon said the US condemned the killings "in the strongest possible terms".
Press secretary George Little said Afghan Defence Minister Gen Abdul Rahim Wardak had called US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta to apologise for the shootings.
Mr Little said Mr Panetta was calling on Afghanistan to take decisive action to protect Nato forces.
Isaf spokesman Brig Gen Carsten Jacobson said that Nato could not yet reveal the identity of those killed.
He also said: "We cannot confirm where the killer came from, what his nationality was, whether he was in uniform or not, all these questions are not known."
Early reports suggest the two officers were shot in the ministry's command and control centre.
The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul says this is where representatives of 34 provinces meet to plan security.
He quotes sources as saying that Interior Minister Bismullah Khan was having a meeting with senior Western officials elsewhere in the building when the shooting took place.
The Taliban said in a website statement that it carried out the attack in response to the Koran burnings.
But Gen Jacobson would not be drawn on any link to the protests.
He said: "We have seen an emotional week, we have seen a busy week - but it would be too early to say this incident was linked."
He added: "It is very regretful to see the loss of life again on this day, and that includes the loss of life that we have seen around demonstrations."
Obama apology
Angry protests over the burning of the Korans continued on Saturday, with a UN compound in the city of Kunduz set alight.
Four people were killed and dozens injured in clashes in the city, according to local doctors. Three more people were killed in the southern province of Logar.
The governor's house in Laghman province also came under attack on Saturday and there were demonstrations in Paktia, Nangarhar and Sari Pul provinces.
Nearly 30 people have died since the protests began on Tuesday.
US personnel apparently inadvertently put the books into a rubbish incinerator at Bagram air base, near Kabul.
US President Barack Obama has apologised for the Koran-burning incident.
In a letter to his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai, Mr Obama said the books had been "unintentionally mishandled".
Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book with deep reverence.
BBC News - Nato pulls out of Afghan ministries after Kabul attack
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Yes it is indeed time for Americans to come home, however humiliate it is.
The neocons were warned about Afghan, but they didn't heeded, and now they're still talking big.
Bring ALL TROOPS home and never leave our soils except emergency rescues. We the people will make sure the neocons will never assume the presidency.
The neocons were warned about Afghan, but they didn't heeded, and now they're still talking big.
Bring ALL TROOPS home and never leave our soils except emergency rescues. We the people will make sure the neocons will never assume the presidency.
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I'm not muslim, but I'm not an idiot American. You don't go to an Islamic country and burn the words of god and then say "oops, my bad, I didn't know." You did know. You've been there for more than a decade and you actively try to "win hearts and minds." I'm sure somebody had told them that burning a quran is wrong and what the Quran means to muslims.
Also, sad that Afghans need such an incident to take action. The simple fact that a bunch of dogs are walking on the soil of your country should be enough to rise up.
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Also, sad that Afghans need such an incident to take action. The simple fact that a bunch of dogs are walking on the soil of your country should be enough to rise up.
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thanks for the laugh
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How on earth can u expect respect when u fail to give the same? Double standards much??
Naturally... anything that is done offensive by others is wrong while whatever they do is perfectly alright.
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