Afghan govt wants IAF support to crush Taliban as fighting worsens across the country

[Meengla]

The lack of adjacent borders is the biggest hurdle for the IAF to target the Taliban terrorists.
Pakistan will not allow overflight to IAF and i doubt iran wants to be dragged into the Afghanistan conflict by giving access to its airspace.
If the central Asian countries airspace can be used , aerial bombing of the taliban will be good training for the IAF. It can be done with complete deniability.

You are right about the lack of adjacent border as a big hurdle but it is not the 'biggest' hurdle. For a moment assume that India has unrestricted access to Afghanistan or at least a secure air corridor. Even then I don't think India would dare send a single fighter aircraft into Afghanistan: It would be spotted. Afghanistan airspace must be monitored by regional powers and Pakistan would be tipped about Indian plans. I am pretty certain Pakistan would send in troops, even in plain clothes, with SAM to try to take out Indian jets. So you can pretty much be sure that gloves would come off and Pakistan will openly aid Taliban to take over Kabul--not hard to do so, actually.

But it's all a moot point: Indians are far smarter than that and they would not be openly involved in Afghanistan--especially not after Modi has managed to alienate even Russia and, thanks to the attempted annexation of Kashmir, China is far more antagonistic toward India. Besides, India has already achieved a lot in Afghanistan by hurting Pakistan. India shouldn't worry too much about what's happening in Afghanistan.

 

[nangyale]

If the mighty Indian war machine wants more (dil mangta hai aur), then it's the perfect opportunity.
Your rapists brethern need help, and they need it fast.

 

[Leviza]

They will never send IAF to Afghanistan
Everyone knows china will use this and provide ground to air and it will be big damage to IAF

but first they need balls to go in which they can’t buy regardless of how much cash they have

 

[nangyale]

Come on India where are your Shershaah's. Time to bring forward your mighty Raptor of the east. The Teja and prove to Kabul you really are a friend who can deliver.

 

[Deltadart]

It's another case of the Vedic fascist hindu regime thinking too highly of it's abilities to influence events in the region. Their wild fantasies of grandeur and glory always leads them to their false bravado, which in turn leads them to disappointment and helplessness.

When the reality dawns on them that they are totally incapable of throwing their military might around without some very serious repercussions to their fascist state. They become frustrated and it results in their giving out excuses and becoming peace lovers. Even when their backers in the west urge indians to show their much touted abilities to emulate their Zionist brethren and cut "moozlims" down to size with deadly weapons. Even their cheering section and go to apologists "experts" like Christine unfair, and michael kugelman in the US have to remind their indian benefactors that they are not up to the job. Telling indians the plain truth might hurt their chances of making money in the future from indians. No one tells the indian that have very limited military abilities and even smaller balls, and that the cost of pleasuring themselves by poking their nose in others business is very high

 

[American Pakistani]

Afghans have been back stabbed by their own blood brothers RSS Hindutva BJP Gov?

Not all Afghans though. Just the puppet ones who India use and abuse.

@Topic, I wish India does help though. It's gonna be a great India vs Pakistan without Pakistan risking international sanctions.

 

[Wood]

So if we run a basic metric of Indian news your suggestion is that foriegn news especially on Pakistan or China related topics will be less than 10% or even 20% of all content?
After all, content is run based on the interest of consuming audience. More so, it would also belie the number of Indians that visit this site, comment on Pakistani issues or other topics relating to it as well.
@Foxtrot Alpha @Slav Defence ideas on who could do this metric to rubbish this sanctimonious claim from across the border.

This topic is about Afghan interests. Not related to Pakistan or China. Indian news does not say much about Afghanistan. With respect to Pakistan, Indian news usually talks about terrorism and economic collapse. With regard to Chinese, Indian news is mostly about border struggles and economic disparity.

I'm not bein sanctimonious at all. Most Indians come here because they cannot resist a touch of schadenfreude. Personally, I hang out to watch the nationalist brigade from both sides throw feces at each other

 

[Deltadart]

India has very little to gain and everything to loose by participating in the Afghan war. Access to Pakistani backyard was good while it lasted; it came at almost no cost for the last decade. Now it will be back to the old form of militia support that India was engaged in prior to US invasion.

Only real factor that will make India reconsider is something like an F-35 offer from US. Even then, it would be a monumental task for the ruling gov. to sell the idea to Indian public.

Meanwhile, you keep pleasuring yourself on this thought now, okay!

 

[Wood]

Meanwhile, you keep pleasuring yourself on this thought now, okay!

I'll would like to say that it does not bother me either way; but that would trouble you with an obligation to drum up another verbal abuse to retort. So, whatever floats your boat.

 

[SQ8]

This topic is about Afghan interests. Not related to Pakistan or China. Indian news does not say much about Afghanistan. With respect to Pakistan, Indian news usually talks about terrorism and economic collapse. With regard to Chinese, Indian news is mostly about border struggles and economic disparity.

I'm not bein sanctimonious at all. Most Indians come here because they cannot resist a touch of schadenfreude. Personally, I hang out to watch the nationalist brigade from both sides throw feces at each other

The claim you made in the post is “Indian local news is usually dominated by more grounded domestic problems.” - it doesn’t matter what freudian reason you come here for, but to say that the level of obsession Indian media has with Pakistan is anything less than manic compared to how it truly impacts Indian lives can be proven wrong with simple metrics.

 

[Wood]

The claim you made in the post is “Indian local news is usually dominated by more grounded domestic problems.” - it doesn’t matter what freudian reason you come here for, but to say that the level of obsession Indian media has with Pakistan is anything less than manic compared to how it truly impacts Indian lives can be proven wrong with simple metrics.

.. such a claim can be substantiated only if you monitor the entire spectrum of Indian media 24 x 7. I suppose you do that.

 

[Goenitz]

The lack of adjacent borders is the biggest hurdle for the IAF to target the Taliban terrorists.
Pakistan will not allow overflight to IAF and i doubt iran wants to be dragged into the Afghanistan conflict by giving access to its airspace.
If the central Asian countries airspace can be used , aerial bombing of the taliban will be good training for the IAF. It can be done with complete deniability.

India has one base in Tajikistan I guess. Plus India has its battle group, it can use Arabian sea.

Anyway, this shows that neither india is regional nor super power. Also, it shows how it was difficult for Pak to protect its eastern wing in 71.

 

[Splurgenxs]

India has one base in Tajikistan I guess. Plus India has its battle group, it can use Arabian sea.

Anyway, this shows that neither india is regional nor super power. Also, it shows how it was difficult for Pak to protect its eastern wing in 71.

Interesting draw on the 71 conflict , but not quite. The geographies are quite different.

India could still position some shortrange ballistic misses and fire them ,without commiting any live resources, and extending itself too far out, assuming India has that.

Iran is also an angle that can be utilized.

The problem is that there are many players and any overt plays wont bide well for anyone except America , that was already neck deep.

The way i see it , i think no one cares about Afghan govt , what they care about is there interests. So countries are clamoring to reduce the fallout.
Taliban have there fickle opinions on there religion and i dont see them swaying on anything against it.

Let see how much Pakistan can mange to diffuse.

 

[Goenitz]

Interesting draw on the 71 conflict , but not quite. The geographies are quite different.

India could still position some shortrange ballistic misses and fire them ,without commiting any live resources, and extending itself too far out, assuming India has that.

Iran is also an angle that can be utilized.

The problem is that there are many players and any overt plays wont bide well for anyone except America , that was already neck deep.

The way i see it , i think no one cares about Afghan govt , what they care about is there interests. So countries are clamoring to reduce the fallout.
Taliban have there fickle opinions on there religion and i dont see them swaying on anything against it.

Let see how much Pakistan can mange to diffuse.

hmhm.. somewhat different. . ballistic missile is a stupid option unless Taliban are concentrated at one point somewhere.
Sure, no one cares for the other.

However, what kind of image of India this news portrays. That a country is calling for help against declared 'terrorists', but India can't help her. I mean how can India sell the idea that India can tackle China like putting a blockade near Malaka as a quad member if need rises.

Plus, Dehli didn't respond to two military aggressions:
1. One was Chinese intrusion and subsequent patrolling limit inside India territory (just IA built up more forces and develop infrastructure)
2. Pak attack on 27th Feb, which India considered "attack on military installation" and then didn't response
@Windjammer

the 3 billion$ investment rhetoric has a deeper meaning, that India cannot protect its own investment (monetary, political, strategic, etc) in Afghnaistan. This diminishes India persona of regional or big power.

Lastly, Pak doesn't control Taliban. I don't question their valour and determination but they lack discipline and are unpredictable. The notion that Pak is controlling is a hogwash from west and utopia from our side (if we believe we control them.)

 

[Splurgenxs]

hmhm.. somewhat different. . ballistic missile is a stupid option unless Taliban are concentrated at one point somewhere.
Sure, no one cares for the other.

However, what kind of image of India this news portrays. That a country is calling for help against declared 'terrorists', but India can't help her. I mean how can India sell the idea that India can tackle China like putting a blockade near Malaka as a quad member if need rises.

Plus, Dehli didn't respond to two military aggressions:
1. One was Chinese intrusion and subsequent patrolling limit inside India territory (just IA built up more forces and develop infrastructure)
2. Pak attack on 27th Feb, which India considered "attack on military installation" and then didn't response
@Windjammer

the 3 billion$ investment rhetoric has a deeper meaning, that India cannot protect its own investment (monetary, political, strategic, etc) in Afghanistan. This diminishes India persona of regional or big power.

Lastly, Pak doesn't control Taliban. I don't question their valour and determination but they lack discipline and are unpredictable. The notion that Pak is controlling is a hogwash from west and utopia from our side (if we believe we control them.)
the 3 billion$ investment rhetoric has a deeper meaning, that India cannot protect its own investment (monetary, political, strategic, etc) in Afghanistan. This diminishes India persona of regional or big power.

Lastly, Pak doesn't control Taliban. I don't question their valour and determination but they lack discipline and are unpredictable. The notion that Pak is controlling is a hogwash from west and utopia from our side (if we believe we control them.)

Im not a representative of any country neither is anyone here , anything said and done falls completely on the apparatus that spews it.

India will portray the same image that it has been and every country does , looking after its interests.

People are fickle and have selective miopia , 5 years down the line things will be completely different. America was an ally once now Russia , down the line who knows.

And depending on how things go , people will either rejoice or wallow in hindsight.
Hindsight is always 20/20

Delhi responded with what it thought would work, optics and perceptions will always be subject to bias.
On the ground , The LOC is peaceful and China is backing off . What does that mean? Did India , win , loose , stalemate , achieve objective, got beaten silly?
Could you think of any other theater that this might be addressing?

3 billion is chump change, Compared to the shocks the markets will face on a declared conflict.
Something Pakistan could emulate for its sake.
One can give the same rhetoric to, the USSR and America and China on topics i don't need to elaborate on. What about Pakistan on Kashmir status quo change?


Yes no one controls the Taliban , they think they do , but they dont , the only one controlling the Taliban are the instincts that drive there tribal nature.
The moment one would think they control them is the moment they will lose a limb. Keeping the rabid nature caged is the best option.