Afghan forces raid Pakistani village

[JAT BALWAN]

So no1 in the army or govt was shown the body... hmmmm....call me silly but till this day im not buying the story that obl was in abbotabad or killed there.

amreekeeis making you fool ... beware...

 

[cheekybird]

amreekeeis making you fool ... beware...

Leave the amreekeeis...whats with our govt..everything abt the raid was hushed...

 

[Irfan Baloch]

They will continue to amass troops on our border driven by their paranoia of us. All while the foreign forces will enter from their western borders, do their business and leave.

my innocent bholay nath friend

do you have the data on the positions of your armor and infantry formations along the border with Pakistan? Do you know that your air force in combat forward bases
please dont be so naive we are only responding in a much lesser strength to what you have.
An innocent Indian journalist raised a similar question to Musharraf just listen to the video fro 5:00 and give me a better answer and tell me that Musharraf’s figures are wrong.

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There is no paranoia, it is just hard fact. I have travelled throughout the Kashmir and Punjab borders with India and have seen the deployment myself. I have myself been involved in border skirmishes in Bhimber sector with Indian forces deployed across the river so please don’t make such statements that lack facts.

Trust me that we are not all quarrelsome people and love peace , respect and prosperity as much as you do. You tend to give far too much weight to the hate mongers on our side and use it to apply on our all nation while you are aware yourself that you got your own breed of hate mongers who expose themselves from time to time. The burning of Samjhota express is just one example that wont fade from the memory for a long time just like you wont forgive the Mombai massacre.

We were forced to move our formations from KP even when your army aggressively started deploying more units along the borders after the mombai attacks and was seen assembling in battle groups int eh assembly areas primed for assault on short notice.

Pray, do tell what could have been our response other than getting ready to defend out side with our forces?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Of course not. Army or government saw the body of wives or survivors or unknown guards, not OBL. Amazing, world's one most terrrost wanted OBL was under the nose of Pakistan military comfortable houses in Abottabads. That's damn fcking embarrasing to our pride of Pakistan Military we respect them blindly.

Government officials or Army interviewed wives, children, and survivors, not OBL.

yea damn embarrasing that.
but tell me how do you propose to interview a dead guy?

Well, Pakistan military came too late to save the country and the dead guy was already removed from Pakistan soil. Then they dumbed to the sea, imam prayed it in the US aircraft carrier.

We didn't buy this story. The most dangerous corrupt Pakistan military officers behind curtains acknowledged OBL living in Abottabad. Was OBL valued to Pakistan? No, it is not valued to Pakistan but Pakistan military and selling-out.

Continue to hue and cry fakes in the public, behind curtains more acceptable.

so what is your problem with the death of OBL?
yes its embarrassing that we failed to find him and Americans did it for us and then dumped him in the sea?
which most dangerous corrupt Pakistan military officers behind curtains acknowledged OBL living in Abbotaabad? how did you know they were dangerous and corrupt if they were behind curtains? did they ask you for money before they said what they said?

Pakistan military would have cashed OBL for decades had it found it itself. our so called aid was already stopped and we were not even getting our own bills paid by the NATO that was using our resources so I dont know how you think our behind the curtain corrupt military guys were selling themselves out by not showing OBL?

Did you see the living conditions of his place? It was a ***** site. How was that guy of any value to us who was so poor in basic hygiene and cleanliness? Such accusations defy all logic honestly.
And listen whether or not you like it, but it’s a popular opinion and belief that OBL was indeed there and the SEALs popped him in the forehead. His wives testified that so I will give their statements more weight than some conspiracy theorist.
Bottom line is, our intelligence services failed to locate him and the world has all the good reasons to criticise and suspect us for the all the time to come.

PS. sorry I didnt want to make another post to your answer sisnce its off-topic but since I made the mistake of responding to you so I am completing it here.
but thats it

 

[Shapur]

That border is almost non existant. Stupid mofo Brits drawing lines on paper thinking they can create borders. lol

 

[VelocuR]

yea damn embarrasing that.
but tell me how do you propose to interview a dead guy?

Well, Pakistan military came too late to save the country and the dead guy was already removed from Pakistan soil. Then they dumbed to the sea, imam prayed it in the US aircraft carrier.

We didn't buy this story. The most dangerous corrupt Pakistan military officers behind curtains acknowledged OBL living in Abottabad. Was OBL valued to Pakistan? No, it is not valued to Pakistan but Pakistan military and selling-out.

Continue to hue and cry fakes in the public, behind curtains more acceptable to tarnish reputation and image of Pakistan.

 

[Omar1984]

Pakistan army should also raid Afghani villages and towns. There are a lot of enemies of Pakistan in Afghanistan. I know ISI is in Afghanistan. They will take revenge one way or another.

 

[Jungibaaz]

This is just sad.

The army and the power we boast, the amount of money we spend on the military, in return the leadership seem to be defeating the purpose of an army.

I see F-16s, I see tanks, subs, frigs, missiles and nukes.

But I can't see anything to be proud of.

 

[SolarFlare]

We should show these Afghanis what we are made out of. I say blow two or three suspected terrorist housing villages up in Afghanistan. I mean, there must be terrorists in those villages?

 

[BATMAN]

We should show these Afghanis what we are made out of. I say blow two or three suspected terrorist housing villages up in Afghanistan. I mean, there must be terrorists in those villages?

According to Gilani we cannot return favor because we are responsible state.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Pakistan army should also raid Afghani villages and towns. There are a lot of enemies of Pakistan in Afghanistan. I know ISI is in Afghanistan. They will take revenge one way or another.

haha if we go by the articles posted by the Indians about the ISI hold on Afghanistan then yes.
but what to do with the guys here who are saying that USA wont let us do anything?

there was one article posted by one of the obssesive compulsive poster which said that an Al Qeda/ taliban leader was complaining that he doesnt even dare take a pee in Afghanistan without the approval of the ISI

now consider that and then the tease by some Indian who are saying that Americans wont let us do the similar raid when they themselvees cant even stop Haqqanis and TTP guys moving in and out of Afghanistan (I didnt say BLA because they are hositing them in Kabul).

coming to this incident, its a very bad development and wont help in attaining peace in Afghanistan at all. because now the Pakistani side will be less willing in cooperation which is understandable.

by the way as far as us raiding Afghan villiages is concerned, we wont do such a thing because they are our Pashton brothers who have relations here on our side. we wont copy the American troops who have no regard for human life inside Afghanistan or Pakistan also we wont copy the ANA troops who are mostly nonPashtons and have the hatred for Pashtons just because they got the beating from Taliban.

I have serious doubts about the ANA claims. if indeed there were taliban there, then these ANA troops wont have made it alive over there. the same ANA that doesnt even have the control outside few blocks beyond Kabul can come in pakistan and attack a Taliban compound?

yea right.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I must add that all those people who are praising the raid and declaring the victims as Taliban are actually doing harm to themselves.

Because without any knowledge or care and going into details of the incident, they are actually exposing their sham support for the Baloch too!!!

YES baloch… they are forgetting that the ANA criminals actually abducted and then killed the Baloch nationals…. The same Baloch if they had died under suspicious circumstances then people would have been blaming ISI and FC and crying rivers over the death of the Baloch.

What the Afghan forces did was nothing short of a criminal act like drug mafias or robbers do, they abducted 2 people and then took them to Afghanistan and then shot them dead!!

Why all this effort if indeed these Baloch villagers were indeed some dangerous taliban? And whats the point of killing them when they were in their custody and in Afghanistan? Isn’t it a war crime to kill prisoners? How can ANA show itself to be morally higher than the Taliban?

I suspect that it was a pure criminal raid and when they saw that the abducted people were of no value then they shot them. This is what these guys are doing to fellow Afghan countrymen . they have setup check posts and they extort money from traders and travelers. They loot and plunder and commit all sorts of serious crimes on their own population and when the outrage reaches the human right watch or independent media they showcase them as raids on Taliban. Since there is no way to independently verify their claims so there is no one to challenge them because no NGO, media person or human rights activist can dare to step out of Kabul without the escort of the same people whose colleagues are suspects of the crimes.

Before writing any more meaningless one-liners and celebrating the deaths of my fellow Baloch do consider the forum guidelines and their possible enforcement. Doing so, you are only exposing yourself how sincere you are about your expressions of solidarity for Baloch.

And finally a humble request to all Pakistanis who are making enraged postings and demanding reprisal on Afghans, Please grow up and don’t make yourself look silly. People across the border in Afghanistan are our brothers and cousins and although we are citizens of two independent and sovereign countries but we have centuries old shared values, traditions and customs and we have lived with love respect and honor together for centuries and seen off many invaders in the past and we will see off the yanks too once they wont even have enough paper to print any more Dollars to fund their wars.

 

[regular]

This is pathetic. After U.S. raids now even afghani army that is just few years old

Where was Pakistan forces

Oh! So tomorrow India will raid too and nobody will know anything except the media....its a damn shame for our prestigious, loyal, trustworthy Army.....

 

[saiyan0321]

this is just sad us i understand but afghni too i say blow up the entire kandahar and kill hundreds of their soldiers to punish afghanistan what will happen if they enter our terrain but we wont do it bcz we are a "responsible state"

 

[HANI]

Oh! So tomorrow India will raid too and nobody will know anything except the media....its a damn shame for our prestigious, loyal, trustworthy Army.....

Ur wrong in this sir one thing is for sure if Indian's will come then there will be a equal and quick reply back because we never leave then with out a reply never