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Zormat, Paktia – It is the early morning on the route connecting Gardez with the little town of Zormat, when a U.S. supply convoy is abruptly halted – an Improvised Explosive Device (IED) has been discovered on the road. Because of the US troop drawdown, the convoy’s final destination, Combat Outpost Zormat, no longer hosts a bomb squad, and an Explosive Ordnance Disposal team has to be dispatched all the way from Forward Operating Base Gardez in order to clear the road for the Americans. After five long hours the IED is finally destroyed in a controlled detonation.

The IED consisted of three 60mm mortar rounds and an Italian anti-tank mine. According to a U.S. combat engineer, this IED, since it contained an “anti-handling device,” was configured to be picked up by Afghan National Army soldiers, who often lack adequate equipment to defuse roadside bombs. As U.S. troops are pulling out of the region, the majority of roadside bombs are now specifically designed to target members of the Afghan National Security Forces. Insurgents see the Afghani government rather than coalition forces as the principle enemy in this year’s fighting season.

Most of the 90-odd ISAF bases will shut down over the next 12 months, and the troop level of 98,000 men in early June will in all likelihood decrease to 15,000 by the end of 2014 (with a zero option being considered). In traditional insurgent hotbeds such as Zormat, dominated by the fiercely independent Mansur tribe and flooded with insurgents from Pakistan, this means that Afghan government forces have to adopt flexible strategies in dealing with the enemy if they are to channel their resources.

A US soldier investigating an IED on the Gardez Zormat road in Pakia ProvinceThe unofficial and scaled-down major objective for ISAF is to train Afghan National Security Forces to the point where they will be able to control the country’s population centers and strategically important assets such as major roads and mountain passes after 2014.

The more ambitious goal of pacifying the entire country is now passé. These scaled-down objectives can already be seen at the district and company level. According to Captain J.D. Caddell, commander of D company of the 1-506th Regiment at Combat Outpost Zormat: “One can broadly divide the district into three areas: There are those areas that are a no-go for Afghan Forces, then there are areas where they will only go with U.S. air support, and there are the areas where they will go on their own.”

This local geographical division has not changed over the years. The principal aim of the government forces in Zormat is to protect larger towns and the roads connecting them, leaving certain areas, despite occasional raids, effectively under insurgent control. The soldiers of the 1st Kandak (battalion) in Zormat, are not worried about the U.S. departure. According to Sergeant First Class Abdul Qayoom: “We have been trained for nine years by the Americans which is enough! It is good that American Forces are withdrawing! We have to see for ourselves how well we will be doing!” Lieutenant Aboul Chafer emphasizes that there are still many challenges, but he also states: “This is our country. It is our responsibility to secure it. It was a good decision for the U.S. to pull back, although we have taken quite a lot of casualties.”

Captain Mohamed Di, 28, a supply officer in the 1st Kandak, states that “We need more funding. It is hard to keep informants on payrolls. Without informants we cannot use our artillery to strike at the enemy because of our rules of engagement. We also need better Afghan air support!” At the same time he confidently asserts: “The quality of our forces has increased dramatically over the past year!”

Captain Caddell and some of his men of D Company consulting with Afghan officersr at Afghan Combat Outpost Ramen KhylIn an interview Lt. General Mark Miley, Commander of the ISAF Joint Command, said, “Roughly speaking, the insurgency-driven violence is for the most part isolated to specific areas which make up about 15-20 percent of the geographical landscape of Afghanistan. That is not to say that the government does not control those areas, they are just contested. The ANA fighting capability is not conclusive, but very promising.”

Progress has indeed been steady. Afghan forces have been launching more independent operations than ever. One, code named Operation Simurgh (“Phoenix”), launched on July 23 in the provinces of Paktia, Logar, Nangarhar and Kabul and involving 2400 security forces, has resulted in the death of more than 200 insurgents to date. The operation is still ongoing according to Dawlat Waziri, spokesman of the Afghan Defense Ministry. Afghan forces have so far not requested any ISAF support; the operation is entirely Afghan-led with no coalition ground forces involved. Signs of improvement can also been seen in Zormat district.

On an inspection tour of the Afghan Combat Outpost Ramen Khyl, Captain Caddell and his officers were impressed with the professionalism of the Afghan National Army unit stationed there. “Force Protection and the outpost defenses are set up just like we would do it,” he notes. An American offer to provide security while the ANA company was celebrating the end of Ramadan was politely refused. “The Afghan government in Kabul may still need some support, but out here in Zormat, we can handle the situation on our own!” says Captain Mohamed Di with a smile on his face.


Afghan Forces Not Worried about US Departure | Flashpoints | The Diplomat
 
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@Sher Malang

any comment on this buddy??

That's the truth, they have received enough trainings from US/NATO and now they have local trainers; they know the terrain more then ISAF without GPS or any other modern navigation systems, all they need is weapons to fight and bleed for their country.
 
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That's the truth, they have received enough trainings from US/NATO and now they have local trainers; they know the terrain more then ISAF without GPS or any other modern navigation systems, all they need is weapons to fight and bleed for their country.

am very skeptical.. they have been there for barely 10 years and secondly they need to be paid properly so that they dont defect..
who will pay their bill?
 
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That's the truth, they have received enough trainings from US/NATO and now they have local trainers; they know the terrain more then ISAF without GPS or any other modern navigation systems, all they need is weapons to fight and bleed for their country.


whats your thought on post Nato withdrawal scenario??can ANA hold Taliban all by itself??I think ANA is capable enough.all they need now is a capable AF that will pound Talibs from the air..
 
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That's the truth, they have received enough trainings from US/NATO and now they have local trainers; they know the terrain more then ISAF without GPS or any other modern navigation systems, all they need is weapons to fight and bleed for their country.

Thats the Truth my arse - Kabhiii aooo naa zaraaa Khyber khusboo lagaaa keii ! :kiss3:

Tereiii sareiii GPS wagheraa siidhaaa kar deiiin geiii ! :D
 
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am very skeptical.. they have been there for barely 10 years and secondly they need to be paid properly so that they dont defect..
who will pay their bill?

I think all they need is to fight for a cause..if they defect for shoddy pay,then they deserve tyrannical rulers like Taliban..but yes,a better pay as well as better living condition makes thing easier.I think the funds Afghanistan will get from USA/Nato will be enough to pay the soldiers.. @Sher Malang whats your thought on this???
 
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I think all they need is to fight for a cause..if they defect for shoddy pay,then they deserve tyrannical rulers like Taliban..but yes,a better pay as well as better living condition makes thing easier.I think the funds Afghanistan will get from USA/Nato will be enough to pay the soldiers.. @Sher Malang whats your thought on this???
no army man fights for a cause.. you fight for yourself, your family, your tribe.. nation comes next ... that how it is in south asia.. and afgans are no special.

so if you dont pay them well, dont support them, they will be demoralized and you will see large scale defection.
 
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Afghans weren't worried in the late 1980s either when Soviets withdrew as they had armed Afghanistan with 2,000 SCUD-B Ballistic missiles (17 of which also landed in Pakistan) as well as other fantasy toys. However, by 1996 Taliban reigned over 90% of the country and that's despite the Taliban did not even exist until 1992.

Pray my Afghan brothers, pray very hard. You know what's coming for you.
 
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no army man fights for a cause.. you fight for yourself, your family, your tribe.. nation comes next ... that how it is in south asia.. and afgans are no special.

so if you dont pay them well, dont support them, they will be demoralized and you will see large scale defection.

Defection happens in this kind of warfare..we saw that in Iraq(even with better pay) as well as in various countries fighting terrorism..we'll see it here.there is no exception.but better intelligence needs to prevail that as well as prevent insider attack..its "Insider Attack" that really erodes the morale.
 
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Afghans weren't worried in the late 1980s either when Soviets withdrew as they had armed Afghanistan with 2,000 SCUD-B Ballistic missiles (17 of which also landed in Pakistan) as well as other fantasy toys. However, by 1996 Taliban reigned over 90% of the country and that's despite the Taliban did not even exist until 1992.

Pray my Afghan brothers, pray very hard. You know what's coming for you.

The brotherly love is really overwhelming

On Topic> The Post-US Departure Afghanistan may descend into chaos again if right measures are not taken.

Though, if the upcoming "Good" Taliban agrees to keep good relations with India and provides only lip service to the power waging proxy war in J&K, it will suffice.

It will be even better if post-2014 we benefit from mineral wealth from Afghanistan; good relations with post 2014 govt might enable this.
 
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Afghans weren't worried in the late 1980s either when Soviets withdrew as they had armed Afghanistan with 2,000 SCUD-B Ballistic missiles (17 of which also landed in Pakistan) as well as other fantasy toys. However, by 1996 Taliban reigned over 90% of the country and that's despite the Taliban did not even exist until 1992.

Pray my Afghan brothers, pray very hard. You know what's coming for you.

and we all know who threw their weight behind Taliban scums..at that time,Taliban were not fighting against a country,but another militant group.nor they were in the headlines.but this time,its impossible to happen.
 
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The love....brotherly love is really overhelming

We have sacrificed so much by confronting two superpowers for the liberation of Muslim Afghanistan. Every Afghan understands our brotherly love for them.
 
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and we all know who threw their weight behind Taliban scums..at that time,Taliban were not fighting against a country,but another militant group.nor they were in the headlines.but this time,its impossible to happen.

Only 466 days until January 1, 2015.
 
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I think all they need is to fight for a cause..if they defect for shoddy pay,then they deserve tyrannical rulers like Taliban..but yes,a better pay as well as better living condition makes thing easier.I think the funds Afghanistan will get from USA/Nato will be enough to pay the soldiers.. @Sher Malang whats your thought on this???

That's more than enough for ANSF but we are negotiating with the US to have maximum authority of 4.1bln$/y for one decade.

Taliban is now a corney issue in Afghanistan no one bothers to think about them we have bigger issues to deal with for the next decade.
 
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