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Should not have gotten involved with Osama bin Laden in the first place. Remember that we tried for 10 YRS in appealing to the Taliban before 9/11. Ten yrs is plenty enough time. Now the lesson for the region is that if you do not want a mess, do not mess with US. TEN YRS of negotiations.
Frankly it was couple of weeks..probably more time would have resulted a different scenario but Mr Bush was more keen on military solutions
10 years ago USA just wrapped up and left a unstable govt while sanctioning Pakistan in the process..
In other words left with huge mess in Afghanistan and victory in Europe with German unification ...
If anything I doubt a lesson was learnt by anyone not to mess with usa...though 10 of thousands of people did end up losing there families to war..damaging usa soft power

Should not have gotten involved with Osama bin Laden in the first place. Remember that we tried for 10 YRS in appealing to the Taliban before 9/11. Ten yrs is plenty enough time. Now the lesson for the region is that if you do not want a mess, do not mess with US. TEN YRS of negotiations.
Frankly it was couple of weeks..probably more time would have resulted a different scenario but Mr Bush was more keen on military solutions
10 years ago USA just wrapped up and left a unstable govt while sanctioning Pakistan in the process..
In other words left with huge mess in Afghanistan and victory in Europe with German unification ...
If anything I doubt a lesson was learnt by anyone with respect to " not to mess with usa" ..though 10 of thousands of people did end up losing there families to war across the globe..damaging usa soft power
 
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The fact that you think the US won in Afghanistan is what makes me think you're delusional.
I did not say we won in Afghanistan. So for you to read that, it means you have a reading comprehension problem. I said we defeated the Taliban. Big difference.
 
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I did not say we won in Afghanistan. So for you to read that, it means you have a reading comprehension problem. I said we defeated the Taliban. Big difference.

In a few line describe , in your opinion , what would it take for you to say ( an believe ) that "you won in Afghanistan" , what's missing from saying and believing that you actually won ?
 
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In a few line describe , in your opinion , what would it take for you to say ( an believe ) that "you won in Afghanistan" , what's missing from saying and believing that you actually won ?
If it make you guys orgasmic that we 'lost' Afghanistan, then I will indulge you: THE US LOST AFGHANISTAN.

We just seriously kicked Taliban butts on the way to losing Afghanistan. :enjoy:
 
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If it make you guys orgasmic that we 'lost' Afghanistan, then I will indulge you: THE US LOST AFGHANISTAN.

We just seriously kicked Taliban butts on the way to losing Afghanistan. :enjoy:

I think US has won the war .. that's how I look at it but it seems like you are not able to convince your own selves that you have won , which is what I'm trying to understand why is that the case , what do you feel is still left to win .. you HAVE won .... its over.

There is a book Moby Dick, written by an American author , it's about a white whale and captain's journey to hunt it down, perhaps US generals need to read that and find closure for themselves.
 
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