Afghan Air Force to acquire 200 aircrafts in only 3 years

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[Neo]

How is Afghanistan going to pay for 200 aircrafts? Even if US donates old F-16's, it would acquire couple of hundreds of $$$ to maintain the fleet, money that Kabul does not have.

 

[Keysersoze]

Well payment would come from Nato and the U.S. However most of them will probably be small trainer types rather than jets. Also a lot of them will be some of the older soviet era aircraft. Did pak return the aircraft that defected a little while back?

 

[Neo]

IIRC we're still holding those aircrafts, but Sir Murad is more relaible source than I am.

Whatever Afghanistan gets, it will suite and fulfill their immediate needs, i.e. fight insurgencies and guerille warfare and provide logistics.
I don't see any harm there, we should not be concerned.

 

[Keysersoze]

Neither do I.....They have barely any infrastructure, let alone the ability to maintain High performance jet fighters.

 

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[Neo]

Thats my first guess aswell, no high end fighter jets.
Lets analyse this, what does Afghanistan need to build an airforce.

4-6 Lockheed C-130 Hercules Heavylift transport
20-40 Bell UH-1H transport and utlity
6-12 Ah-1 Cobra gunships

Maybe some older Russian Frogfoots?

 

[Janbaz]

Thats my first guess aswell, no high end fighter jets.
Lets analyse this, what does Afghanistan need to build an airforce.

4-6 Lockheed C-130 Hercules Heavylift transport
20-40 Bell UH-1H transport and utlity
6-12 Ah-1 Cobra gunships

Maybe some older Russian Frogfoots?

There was this rumour that Canada may donate some old F-18's but even so Agfhanistan can barely adapt a SU 25 in the air force, let alone an older Hornet. It just is too advanced for the country looking at its situation.

 

[solid snake]

We should help Afghanistan build up it's airforce. If we do, they will remember this favor later on when hopefully they are a (relatively) stable country.

 

[kidwaibhai]

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I thought that this might shed some light on the topic that we are discussing at this point in time. I do believed though that whatever happens even if we help the afghans build there air force they will still hate us for supporting the taliban and will always hate us, they will never brotherly relations even though we help protect millions of there citizen in the past years.

 

[Adux]

kidwai,

Pakistan played al la India- Sri Lanka in Afghanistan to some extent. It wanted Afghanistan as its backyard. And was ready to make sure that country never got up on its two toes for that. Tailban did that to Afghanistan and Pakistan made sure it did. Afghanistan under Tailban went back to the stone age, that is not an adage but pure truth. Afghans will have a hard time forgiving Pakistan and Taliban for that.
Most Afghan I have met hate Pakistan more than they hate US. I find that rather interesting

 

[blain2]

kidwai,

Pakistan played al la India- Sri Lanka in Afghanistan to some extent. It wanted Afghanistan as its backyard. And was ready to make sure that country never got up on its two toes for that. Tailban did that to Afghanistan and Pakistan made sure it did. Afghanistan under Tailban went back to the stone age, that is not an adage but pure truth. Afghans will have a hard time forgiving Pakistan and Taliban for that.
Most Afghan I have met hate Pakistan more than they hate US. I find that rather interesting

Afghans hating Pakistan cannot be stereotyped. I have met Afghans in the US who say that they love Pakistan and at the same time many who blame Pakistan for all of Afghanistan's ills. Its a matter of politics and is time specific. During the times of Zia, Afghans loved Pakistan. Pashtuns still care for Pakistan (obviously can't say the same for darri speaking Afghans).

 

[Keysersoze]

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snake !!

what the afghans really need is attack choppers like the longbow ( apache ) to tackle the insurgency. they don't need any fixed-wing fighter aircrafts, bcoz they dont even have enouhg airfields to accomodate 200 + fighters

if u really want to help the afghans then provide them with AH-64s.

also have u ever thought who would train 200 pilots in just under 3-years ??

Ah yes the years you spent as a sniper must have addled you a bit...... .AH-64's are very technically advanced and require a lot of maintenance. They are also very expensive.
3 years is ore than enough time to get a large number of pilots trained. There are also a number of pilots from the russian area still around.



Afghanistan - Airfields

Afghanistan has a number of major and secondary airfields at which cargo flights could deliver some tens of thousand of metric tons of goods annually. Six Afghan airfields probably can handle long-range, heavy transports such as the Il-76, capable of carrying up to 40 metric tons of cargo. Another seven smaller airfields can handle at least short-range, light *to-medium, transport aircraft-such as the An-26, An-32, and C-130* which can carry up to 20, metric tons of cargo.

By mid 1985 the Soviets had built or significantly improved seven airbases: Herat, Shindand, Farah, Qandahar, Kabul International Airport, Bagrami, and Jalalabad. Airfields at Mazar a Sharif, Konduz, Ghazni, and Pol a Charkhi also were improved somewhat. All were turned into all weather, jet air bases (although: Jalalabad continued to be principally for helicopters). The two most important air bases, where the sensitive technical support and maintenance capabilities were located, were at Bagrami and Shindand the former serving as the supreme local headquarters for the entire Soviet military operation in Afghanistan. Most military aircraft were not permanently based at any one field, for maintenance and support were concentrated at these two fields. No Afghans were permitted on the Shindand Air Base.

In the early 1990s Afghan Air Force units were reportedly deployed at five airfields around the country -- the military air bases at Shindand, the Kabul International and Kandahar dual use civil/military airfields, and the civilian airports at Herat and Mazar-e Sharif. Other military air bases include Bagram and Jalalabad. Civilian airfields include Kunduz, Maimana, Shebergan, and Talulqan. Another large concentration of Soviet personnel was at Bagram, some 50 kilometers north of Kabul.

Bagram was regarded as the most critical air base in the country, with the greatest concentration of aircraft and Air Force personnel, along with an independent regiment and a brigade from the 108th Kabul-based MRD. Soviet troops operated from Shindand Airbase in western Afghanistan during the 1980s, with a division (5th GMRD)) protecting this second most important airbase. Soviet fixed-wing aircraft were used to attack villages which might serve as Mujahideen bases, while helicopter gunships attacked guerrillas in contact with Soviet ground troops.

The Rabbani government air force bombarded Shindand airbase held by Hezb-e Islami in August 1992. To the north of Kabul, the city of Charikar and Bagram military airbase were recaptured by the Taliban in early 1997. In September 1997 the Taliban captured the eastern province of Farah and the city of Shindand, site of Afghanistan's largest air force base.

The Combined Forces Air Component Commander (CFACC) was delegated the Airspace Control Authority (ACA) for Afghanistan and the Kabul Flight Information Region (FIR) effective 0730 UTC 11 February 2002 until further notice. As of 2005 operational aerodromes in Afghanistan were: Kabul International (OAKB), Kandahar (OAKN), Bagram (OAIX), and Kunduz (OAUZ). Civil aircraft operations at other airfields may be permitted with prior approval.

Key priorities, for the period 2004-2010, in the civil aviation and tourism subprogram include the following public investments: Upgrading of Kabul Airport to a fully-fledged international airport meeting ICAO standards; Upgrading Herat, Mazar and Jalalabad airports to international standards; Upgrading 15 major domestic airports at Badakshan, Bamyan, Bost, Chagcharan, Faizabad, Gardez, Khawahan, Khost, Kunduz, Maymana, Qala-I-Naw, Sheberghan, Taloqan, Yakawlang, and Zaranz.

 

[Keysersoze]

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"AH-64's are very technically advanced and require a lot of maintenance. They are also very expensive."



u mean to say that fixed wing aircrafts r not expensive?? or they do not require maintenance ???

but snipes apart i thank u for the information on the afghan air-bases

Well Pakistan has opted for AH-1's rather than the AH-64 for this very reason. When I refer to technically advanced I refer to most of the electronic systems that are required to make it (AH-64)effective. Whereas a lot of jet aircraft would have the ability to do the tasks required of it without as much maintenance.

 

[Bull]

Russian helis are best suited i wud say, they are cheap to maintain.