Aero India 2013

[Icewolf]

I highly doubt FGFA main compartments is even finished when Tejas is still doin test flights

 

[faithfulguy]

I highly doubt FGFA main compartments is even finished when Tejas is still doin test flights

I hope that the lesson India learned is that it should focus more on fundamental research first and forget about making a jet fighter until its domestic metallurgical, electronics, engine and aerospace industry is a little more mature. In the mean time, focus on just purchasing planes from others. It need to decouple the needs of its air force from the capabilities of its domestic aerospace industry.

Right, because India has not made a SINGLE foreign sale of an Indian aviation product?

I won't say not a single one, but can you post all the major sales of India's aviation products in the recent years?

 

[janon]

It won't be the FGFA, it will be the PAK-FA that participates. Not a single prototype of FGFA has taken to the skies yet. So it is unlikely that one will fly in an airshow.

 

[faithfulguy]

Right, so the Rafale is selling like hot cakes? And the French have never bough ANY foreign aviation products?


Please, you people like to deal in generalisations and sweeping remarks but things aren't so simple or so clean cut. Every airshow has similar motivations.

Rafael is definitely not selling well. But its clear that the target customer of the foreign vendors in the Indian Airshow is the Indian arm force. All other customers are secondary. This is not the case with all other air shows. So Indian air show is unique in that way. As for similar motivations, I would agree with you. Everyone wants to make money.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I won't say not a single one, but can you post all the major sales of India's aviation products in the recent years?

Mate, this is hard to do as HAL is not a government controlled entity there is a high degree of secrecy relating to sales and developments.


Briefly- Ecuador,Nepal,Maldives,Burma, Mauritius, Suriname and Bolivia have bought the ALH (in pretty small numbers though- 4-5 units apiece).

Additionally HAL has sold HAL-produced DO-228,Chetaks and Cheetahs to many nations in the IOR and Africa.

Yes it is very modest (particuarly because HAL has pathetic marketing depth and because HAL's product range is very limited),-but it is a start.

Rafael is definitely not selling well. But its clear that the target customer of the foreign vendors in the Indian Airshow is the Indian arm force. All other customers are secondary. This is not the case with all other air shows. So Indian air show is unique in that way. As for similar motivations, I would agree with you. Everyone wants to make money.

Not just India but the entire Asian/M.East region. Aero India is the largest airshow in Asia and one of the largest on earth. Why is the EFT coming to Aero India 2013 when it has already been ruled out of entering Indian service? Eurofighter GmbH say themselves it is to showcase the fighter to the S.Asian/M.East markets.

Aero India is not unique-it is a showcase for everyone for the world.


But let's be honest, India is the biggest weapon importer on the planet does it not make sense for the world's arm manufacturers to come to Aero India year after year?

 

[conworldus]

I think the OP meant T-50/PAKFA right? The FGFA is still on paper.

Anyways, any confirmation?

 

[surya kiran]

I think the OP meant T-50/PAKFA right? The FGFA is still on paper.

Anyways, any confirmation?

Pak-FA not FGFA

 

[Koovie]

3 Rafales To Star At AeroIndia 2013

I can now confirm that 3 Dassault Rafale fighters will fly in for Aero India 2013, kicking off on February 6 at the IAF's Yelahanka base. Two will be on air display duties and the third, a special static display.

This year's show, unlike the last two in 2009 and 2011, is expected to be a decidedly fighter-less one, with the MMRCA competition now down to contract negotiations with France. You know you're in for a pretty flat show when one of the highlights is a Pilatus PC-7 Mk.2 prop trainer. There's no word yet on what else exhibitors will be bringing to fly, though I'm hearing the USAF may fly in a C-17 like they did last year. Also hearing that the Russians might bring in their MiG-29 display team.
Livefist: 3 Rafales To Star At AeroIndia 2013

 

[Skull and Bones]

They could have brought P-8s and PAK FA.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Yay.....The most beautiful plane on display.

 

[Koovie]

They could have brought P-8s and PAK FA.

I guess the navy has better things to do with it than putting it on the Yelahanka AF base. Same goes for the Russians, I mean we will get the first prototype next year and we can then do with it what we want.

 

[arp2041]

They could have brought P-8s and PAK FA.

Buddy, IN's personnel are undergoing a training program on P-8Is in the US, i think it will reach India by march-April this year, so why just see a trailer when we can see entire film??

Besides I don't think AI consists of naval platforms.

 

[arp2041]

May be 1 each of Rafale B (twin seater), Rafale C (single seater) & Rafale M, makes sense.

@sancho @Abingdonboy

I want to know how having fighters & other ac on display in AI effect the sales of them?? as you know that IAF selects them on technical & cost parameters not on there looks, so what sense advertisements make here?? they are not selling it to common public, they are selling it to a highly efficient & no nonsense force like IAF. So why so much hype over AI when MMRCA was on & not now when the contract has been given??

 

[ashok321]

Buddy, IN's personnel are undergoing a training program on P-8Is in the US, i think it will reach India by march-April this year, so why just see a trailer when we can see entire film??

Besides I don't think AI consists of naval platforms.

What do you mean by (ABOVE bold) that?

 

[JanjaWeed]

wow.. these Rafales are having real busy schedule off late. Libya campaign, Mali campaign, Aero India show... looks like busiest fighter aircraft in the world..