Aero India 2013

[Abingdonboy]

Sir,your images are not visible.

Weird- I can see them!

 

[S-DUCT]

Weird- I can see them!

FIXED.
Changed my date from 1/1/08 to 12/2/13

 

[Manas]

Mate, I know, and I know that you know. I was just trying to educate some other Indian friends.

I know a dozen other stories, where our guys met your guys at the middle-mans place in Dubai.

Haha nice story whatever floats your boat.

See the difference between india and pakistan is that we have the industrial base to absorb technology while you don't. Simple.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

New Design For India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

India has unveiled an updated design for its fifth-generation fighter concept, known as the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

Representations of the fighter have changed often in the last few years. But the scale 1:8 model of the concept displayed at last week’s Aero India 2013 show in Bengaluru is understood to be the final airframe and platform with which the program will proceed.

The twin-engine, stealthy, multirole fighter was first unveiled at the Aero India show in 2009, in the form of a metallic wind-tunnel model. At the show in 2011, a reshaped model saw its designers give it an F-22-like sensibility.

The final design, or at least the one the concept designers have put out this year, is strongly reminiscent of the Northrop Grumman YF-23 experimental fighter prototype that lost to the Lockheed-Martin led F-22 Raptor program in 1991.

The AMCA’s new fuselage is stretched, with symmetric trapezoidal wings, notably losing the leading edge extensions that were thought to be part of the design. The aircraft is to sport an internal weapons bay and fully indigenous stealth technologies under development, including radar-absorbent paint and composites.

That is the plan, at any rate. With the country’s Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) program increasingly adrift ahead of a 2015 squadron service target, there has been skepticism within the Indian air force (IAF) about the pragmatism of committing resources toward an indigenous fifth-generation platform, especially when more than $10 billion will soon be committed to the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL)-Sukhoi PAK FA-based fighter program. But those concerns haven’t stood in the way of resources and funding flowing into the AMCA program and an elaborate wish list of technologies being lined up to define an aircraft that almost certainly won’t see a first flight before the next decade.

“Let’s be clear: the HAL-Sukhoi program isn’t a joint effort,” says an IAF officer with Bengaluru-based Training Command. “The airframe will be identical to the ones the Russians currently have in flight test. Our decision to go with a single-seat configuration is principally to avoid potential time overruns that will almost certainly be part of designing such a configuration. The maximum that HAL will do is insert a few systems of our choice and play lead integrator for the ‘MKI,’ if you will. Therefore, it is imperative that India look ahead and begin developing technologies and platforms like the AMCA. We cannot forever be a buyer of aircraft that are conceptualized, designed by others, and simply assembled or license-built here.”

A senior scientist at the AMCA directorate in Bengaluru says, “We have the fourth-generation Tejas on the one hand. But evolutionary technologies we are developing for the AMCA are on the cutting edge. They hope to be comparable with the best in the world. If we need a little help along the way in the interests of pragmatism, cost and time, we will study the feasibility of cooperation. But this ideally needs to be a fully Indian program. Sensitive stealth technologies will not be shared by foreign technology companies.”

A brief list of the ambitious technologies that India’s Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) hopes to equip the AMCA with includes a panoramic active matrix cockpit, triplex fly-by-light electro-optic architecture, serpentine air intakes to suppress radar signature and an optic-fiber-based digital flight control computer.

 

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[BlueDot_in_Space]

It seems AF LCA tejas has been tested for lighting protection and rain water proofing as per below updates

 

[Jayanta]

New Design For India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

India has unveiled an updated design for its fifth-generation fighter concept, known as the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).

Representations of the fighter have changed often in the last few years. But the scale 1:8 model of the concept displayed at last week’s Aero India 2013 show in Bengaluru is understood to be the final airframe and platform with which the program will proceed.

The twin-engine, stealthy, multirole fighter was first unveiled at the Aero India show in 2009, in the form of a metallic wind-tunnel model. At the show in 2011, a reshaped model saw its designers give it an F-22-like sensibility.

The final design, or at least the one the concept designers have put out this year, is strongly reminiscent of the Northrop Grumman YF-23 experimental fighter prototype that lost to the Lockheed-Martin led F-22 Raptor program in 1991.

The AMCA’s new fuselage is stretched, with symmetric trapezoidal wings, notably losing the leading edge extensions that were thought to be part of the design. The aircraft is to sport an internal weapons bay and fully indigenous stealth technologies under development, including radar-absorbent paint and composites.

That is the plan, at any rate. With the country’s Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) program increasingly adrift ahead of a 2015 squadron service target, there has been skepticism within the Indian air force (IAF) about the pragmatism of committing resources toward an indigenous fifth-generation platform, especially when more than $10 billion will soon be committed to the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL)-Sukhoi PAK FA-based fighter program. But those concerns haven’t stood in the way of resources and funding flowing into the AMCA program and an elaborate wish list of technologies being lined up to define an aircraft that almost certainly won’t see a first flight before the next decade.

“Let’s be clear: the HAL-Sukhoi program isn’t a joint effort,” says an IAF officer with Bengaluru-based Training Command. “The airframe will be identical to the ones the Russians currently have in flight test. Our decision to go with a single-seat configuration is principally to avoid potential time overruns that will almost certainly be part of designing such a configuration. The maximum that HAL will do is insert a few systems of our choice and play lead integrator for the ‘MKI,’ if you will. Therefore, it is imperative that India look ahead and begin developing technologies and platforms like the AMCA. We cannot forever be a buyer of aircraft that are conceptualized, designed by others, and simply assembled or license-built here.”

A senior scientist at the AMCA directorate in Bengaluru says, “We have the fourth-generation Tejas on the one hand. But evolutionary technologies we are developing for the AMCA are on the cutting edge. They hope to be comparable with the best in the world. If we need a little help along the way in the interests of pragmatism, cost and time, we will study the feasibility of cooperation. But this ideally needs to be a fully Indian program. Sensitive stealth technologies will not be shared by foreign technology companies.”

A brief list of the ambitious technologies that India’s Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) hopes to equip the AMCA with includes a panoramic active matrix cockpit, triplex fly-by-light electro-optic architecture, serpentine air intakes to suppress radar signature and an optic-fiber-based digital flight control computer.

The mock up was suitable for Bankipore fair not an International Air show. The Fin with no LE sweep is an outrage.Surely someone must have cared to see the fin of the Raptor/ F35/PKFA. This is the work of someone who does it for pay and not passion.! Why? All our top people are chosen for “high administrative abilities” and not for “high technical flair” . So we have large sound Organizations but not necessarily excellent aeroplanes. Elsewhere the pamper the Engineers-even the prickly ones- just as we pamper Sachin who gets the runs. The team manager carries the water so that the troops can stay on the firing line!

The sad point is for this model to have been made it must have been sanctioned at a fairly high level- say G at least. No one saw the gross errors and pitfalls in the shape- there are several .The model must have had the Western aero community quietly laughing up its sleeves. The danger is that shoddy project work leads to bad concepts lurking in the programme and they can be the devil to iron out later. In one’s more cynical moments one is tempted to think that perhaps that is the Original objective.

 

[BlueDot_in_Space]

The mock up was suitable for Bankipore fair not an International Air show. The Fin with no LE sweep is an outrage.Surely someone must have cared to see the fin of the Raptor/ F35/PKFA. This is the work of someone who does it for pay and not passion.! Why? All our top people are chosen for “high administrative abilities” and not for “high technical flair” . So we have large sound Organizations but not necessarily excellent aeroplanes. Elsewhere the pamper the Engineers-even the prickly ones- just as we pamper Sachin who gets the runs. The team manager carries the water so that the troops can stay on the firing line!

Dont comment when you don't have the knowledge of the subject, because it makes you look like an .......

 

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[sancho]

Might have missed this pic, but it's the first of Brahmos fitted on MKI that I saw:

 

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