AERO INDIA 2009: India unveils plans for LCA 'Mark 2'

[Indian Su30 MKI]

JF17 should be 4th by western standards. honestly i think the JF-17 is mostly a budget fighter without any specialties. maybe something like 1980's F-16s.

Ok. Sir how many FC 1 i guess China is inducting.

 

[below_freezing]

Ok. Sir how many FC 1 i guess China is inducting.

zero. it does not meet PLAAF requirements.

 

[karan.1970]

no its not like that, LCA is an Indian venture , JF-17 is join venture with Pakistan-China, So comparing JF-17 with LCA is not good at this stage, We will look at it after LCA rolls out, As of Now JF-17 has its first squadron if Iam not wrong

A better comparison of JF 17 project wrt Pakistan is of SU MKI for India.. With some key differences with the main one being Su30 being an extablished platform modified by Russia for IAF, where as JF 17 's first commercial release itself is built specifically for PAF. However the contribution of Pakistan to JF 17 is very much same as India's contribution to MKI i.e. mainly funding and indigenous manufacturing..

 

[Indian Su30 MKI]

zero. it does not meet PLAAF requirements.

okay.How many J10?

 

[flaming arrow]

JF17 should be 4th by western standards. honestly i think the JF-17 is mostly a budget fighter without any specialties. maybe something like 1980's F-16s.

Thats correct jf-17 is a budget fighter but its potency can be increased by adding the western avionics and better radar,something the pakiatanis were trying,they know the challenege up in the sky is getting tougher everyday,it also goes to show that the chinese tech is yet deficient in (atleast fr the time being) in coming close to what the west has to offer else we would have not been hearing about french deal n that deal...

 

[Indian Su30 MKI]

Thats correct jf-17 is a budget fighter but its potency can be increased by adding the western avionics and better radar,something the pakiatanis were trying,they know the challenege up in the sky is getting tougher everyday,it also goes to show that the chinese tech is yet deficient in (atleast fr the time being) in coming close to what the west has to offer else we would have not been hearing about french deal n that deal...

so JF 17 is built only for selling purpose to Pakistan,Bangladesh....and I think eqypt

 

[flaming arrow]

so JF 17 is built only for selling purpose to Pakistan,Bangladesh....and I think eqypt

WE need to give chinese thier due credit on this,its business and they played it well poor nation which cannot afford very expensive jets need a cheap yet a capable jet good enough of securing thier skys,,JF-17 is just that chinse made it fr others,PLAAF has j-10 sukhoi and its copy j-11 for thier needs they will refine it,improve and upgrade it with time,perect example is J-10 which really is a good jet,chinese will give it the benefit of thier increasing tech knowlege with time

 

[Join]

A better comparison of JF 17 project wrt Pakistan is of SU MKI for India.. With some key differences with the main one being Su30 being an extablished platform modified by Russia for IAF, where as JF 17 's first commercial release itself is built specifically for PAF. However the contribution of Pakistan to JF 17 is very much same as India's contribution to MKI i.e. mainly funding and indigenous manufacturing..

Indian components in Sukhoi 30 MKI is more than what pakistan has In Jf-17....

The Su-30MKI contains not only Russian, French, South African and Israeli Customer Furnished Equipment (CFE), but also a substantial percentage of Indian designed and manufactured avionics. They took six years to develop from start to MKI. Advanced avionics were developed by DRDO under a project code named "Vetrivale" (a Tamil name for the victorious lance carried by the youthful Lord Karthikeya or Murugan, a son of Parvati and Shiva) in close collaboration with the PSUs and the IAF. Indian avionics have been received and acknowledged enthusiastically by the Russian principals.

The following are the components developed by Indian agencies:

Mission Computer cum Display Processor - MC-486 and DP-30MK (Defence Avionics Research Establishment - DARE)
Radar Computer - RC1 and RC2 (DARE)
Tarang Mk2 Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) + High Accuracy Direction Finding Module (HADF) (DARE
IFF-1410A - Identification Friend or Foe (IFF)
Integrated Communication suite INCOM 1210A (HAL)
Radar Altimeter - RAM-1701 (HAL)
Programmable Signal Processor (PSP) - (LRDE)
Multi Function Displays (MFD) - Samtel/DARE
The 32-bit Mission Computer performs mission-oriented computations, flight management, reconfiguration-cum-redundancy management and in-flight systems self-tests. In compliance with MIL-STD-1521 and 2167A standards, Ada language has been adopted for the mission computer's software. The other DARE-developed product, the Tarang Mk2 (Tranquil) radar warning receiver, is manufactured by state-owned BEL at its Bangalore facility.

These avionics equipment have also been certified for their airworthiness in meeting the demanding standards of Russian military aviation. The cumulative value of such indigenous avionic equipment is estimated to exceed Rs. 250 lakhs per aircraft. Since the core avionics were developed by a single agency (DRDO) - they have significant commonality of hardware and software amongst them using a modular approach to design. This obviously results in major cost and time savings in development; it also benefits the user in maintenance and spares inventories.

The DRDO has gone a step further and come out with a new design of the Core Avionics Computer (CAC) which can be used with a single module adaptation across many other aircraft platforms. Thus the CAC which is derived from the computers designed for the Su-30MKI will now be the centre piece of the avionics upgrades for the MiG-27 and Jaguar aircraft as well. The CAC was demonstrated by DRDO at the Aero India exhibition at Yelahanka and attracted a good deal of international attention. Taken together with the systems already developed indigenously for the LCA (such as the Digital Flight Control Computer and HUD), clearly Indian avionics have a significant export potential in the burgeoning global market for avionics modernisation.

The navigation/weapons systems from the various countries were integrated by Ramenskoye RPKB.

HAL will supply components to Irkut for 300 Su-30s meant for export to Malaysia and Algeria apart from those meant for IAF

 

[Indian Su30 MKI]

WE need to give chinese thier due credit on this,its business and they played it well poor nation which cannot afford very expensive jets need a cheap yet a capable jet good enough of securing thier skys,,JF-17 is just that chinse made it fr others,PLAAF has j-10 sukhoi and its copy j-11 for thier needs they will refine it,improve and upgrade it with time,perect example is J-10 which really is a good jet,chinese will give it the benefit of thier increasing tech knowlege with time

Yes brother we should appreciate the hard work of the chinese

 

[below_freezing]

okay.How many J10?

as many as necessary. right now probably only 300, 400 maximum. in times of increased tensions with countries to the far east these numbers can be changed.

the JF-17 is unfortunately weaker than the Su-30. heavy fighters like the Su-30 outgun, outmanuever, and outrange the JF-17.

 

[Indian Su30 MKI]

as many as necessary. right now probably only 300, 400 maximum. in times of increased tensions with countries to the far east these numbers can be changed.

Which Country Bro. lol

 

[intelarpit]

A better comparison of JF 17 project wrt Pakistan is of SU MKI for India.. With some key differences with the main one being Su30 being an extablished platform modified by Russia for IAF, where as JF 17 's first commercial release itself is built specifically for PAF. However the contribution of Pakistan to JF 17 is very much same as India's contribution to MKI i.e. mainly funding and indigenous manufacturing..

Bhaiya kisko bata rahe ho...

Just because MKI doesnot have JV in its name......MKI is not Indian

Let them laugh and we will come up with LCA just like Arjun

 

[Justin Joseph]

@ all members

This is the thread about LCA Mark 2 please stick your discussion to the topic.

thanks

 

[below_freezing]

Which Country Bro. lol

a very good question, there are two of these, both have red and white as colors of the flag but one of them also have blue.

its finally good to be able to have a discussion without bashing of either country.

 

[faithfulguy]

a very good question, there are two of these, both have red and white as colors of the flag but one of them also have blue.

its finally good to be able to have a discussion without bashing of either country.

Sounds like you do not regard India as an enemy. red/white and blue, what have the French done this time?

In any case, this thread is about LCA Mk2. coming out in 2060