Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] Development | Updates & Discussions.

[Imran Khan]

india will have stealth in papers and files even in 2030 . we have seen already how indians work

 

[Deino]

By 2025 is ambitious to say the least

No, in fact it is IMPOSSIBLE!

 

[applesauce]

2025?

i see, so a barely working prototype with 95% foreign components will be ready by 2150 is what they're saying.

 

[Indos]

Congratulations on being proving us wrong. We said 3 Tr USD and it is 2.9446 Tr USD as per your source. We fell short by 0.055 Tr USD which is less than 2pc of target figure. This is inspite of two waves of covid. You proved right.

India economy is already close to 3 trillion USD since 2019 and every body knows that, but to pass that 3 trillion marks is something that Indian hoping, same thing when Indonesia wanted to pass for the first time the 1 trillion USD mark in 2017.

What I said is that India is not likely passing 3 trillion USD mark this year, that is because many Indian member already said in PDF and even make a special thread that India economy has already 3 trillion USD economy. Indian Wki member is so quick to add that 3 trillion but not correcting the number after IMF revison came in November, it shows the important of that 3 trillion passing in the mind of Indian.

Passing that number is indeed something that any Indian wants to see, but not easy to do that due to several circumtances , it is similar like how Indonesia gets difficulty to reach 1 trillion USD mark and become trillion dollar countries club despite having already been 900 billion USD nominal GDP since 2011, but due to our gradual currency depreciation then we can only pass it in 2017.

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

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[Zapper]

India is on a Mission to Build a Stealth Fighter by 2025
The Indian Air Force’s delivery timeline is liable to change in the coming years as the project moves further along, but the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft is currently expected to make its maiden flight by 2025, with serial production to begin by 2028.

by Mark Episkopos

Here's What You Need to Remember: The effort is being led by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

The Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) program has its roots in an Indian effort to modernize the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) stock of older fighters, including the SEPECAT Jaguar and Dassault Mirage 2000. The AMCA project has undergone multiple iterations, but the core requirement is for a stealth, single-seat multi-role multirole fighter.

In 2018, India withdrew from the joint Russian-Indian Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) program to manufacture a new fighter based on Russia’s Su-57 fighter jet. Though the IAF had its share of concrete technical reservations with the FGFA—centered mainly on the Su-57’s stealth performance and the production challenges facing its bespoke Izdeliye 30 engine—New Delhi’s decision to withdraw from the FGFA program was not without its political context. Namely, the FGFA partnership gradually became a liability in light of India’s goal to build up its domestic defense industry as part of the government’s 2014 Make in India initiative.
The AMCA, then, is as much a technical project as it is part of New Delhi’s broader policy effort to reinvest in India’s defense sector. The effort is being led by India’s Defence Research and Development Organisation and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and is likewise slated to involve efforts from local contractors.

The details have shifted somewhat in the past decade, but here is where the AMCA project currently stands. As a fifth-generation fighter with “sixth-generation characteristics,” the AMCA will boast a very low radar cross-section for superior stealth performance, integration of certain AI-based systems for streamlined operation, and an advanced cockpit display with a touch screen interface. The AMCA’s avionics suite will be headlined by a large suite of advanced radars and electronic warfare systems.
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The AMCA will also reportedly feature thrust-vectoring engines for superior maneuverability, an impressive feat considering all the other advanced technologies being packed into it. Little is known about the AMCA’s armaments, which reportedly will be carried entirely in an internal weapons bay configuration to maximize stealth performance and deep penetration capability. The fighter will feature Beyond-Visual Range missile targeting capability. In addition to the usual crop of air-to-air missiles, standoff weapons, and guided bombs, the fighter will also reportedly support directed-energy weapon (DEW) systems; it is unknown precisely what form the fighter’s rumored DEW capability will take.
The AMCA seems more similar to Lockheed Martin’s F-35 jet than to Russia’s Su-57 jet or China’s J-20 jet, in that it’s designed as a role-flexible fighter capable of executing a wide range of missions depending on loadout. The AMCA appears to be a complement rather than a replacement, for the IAF’s air superiority fighters, serving as a flexible force multiplier with superior penetration capabilities.

The IAF’s delivery timeline is liable to change in the coming years as the project moves further along, but the AMCA is currently expected to make its maiden flight by 2025, with serial production to begin by 2028.

India is on a Mission to Build a Stealth Fighter by 2025

The Indian Air Force’s delivery timeline is liable to change in the coming years as the project moves further along, but the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft is currently expected to make its maiden flight by 2025, with serial production to begin by 2028.

nationalinterest.org

You should've known by now any India related news will be turned into a massive troll fest...are you dumb enough not to realize that until now or are you just another troll adversary!!

 

[Farhan Bohra]

India economy is already close to 3 trillion USD since 2019 and every knows that, but to pass that 3 trillion marks is something that Indian hoping, same thing when Indonesia pass for the first time the 1 trillion USD mark in 2017.

What I said is that India is not likely passing 3 trillion USD mark this year, that is because many Indian member already said in PDF and even make a special thread that India economy has already 3 trillion USD economy. Not to mention if you see on Wikipedia stating in 2021 India economy has already reach 3 trillion USD. Same like Indonesia that gets difficulty to reach 1 trillion USD despite of have already been 900 billion USD nominal GDP since 2011, but due to our currency depreciation then we can only pass it in 2017.

List of countries by GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What Indian GDP figures or Indonesian GDP figures have to do with AMCA? Seriously wtf?

The writer is Western reporter, they dont know Asian fighter development so deeply. The publication is not as good as publication from Janes (which has local/region correspondent) etc.

Better use Indian site like Tarmac where the project director is interviewed directly. Tejas will be developed in stages and first block will be 4.5 generation fighter with Stealthy design, mostly similar with KF21/IFX

Janes is a good publication for Indian development? They don't even have first hand information from India. And they are good? Hmmmm.

Sixth Gen, AI.... Really??
That too in 2025....Really???
And that too by India.... Really????

Smelling what now? Must be good sh*t...?

its most likely talking about Voice Activated Control System, VACS is already developed for Super Sukhoi. So nothing new here,

 

[Indos]

What Indian GDP figures or Indonesian GDP figures have to do with AMCA? Seriously wtf?

Janes is a good publication for Indian development? They don't even have first hand information from India. And they are good? Hmmmm.

Look on previous conversation between me and that Indian member, then you will understand, I dont need to spoon feed you.

Janes is good publication rather than this news on the OP. You need to improve your thinking ability when it comes to understand the context of the conversation.

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

You should've known by now any India related news will be turned into a massive troll fest...are you dumb enough not to realize that until now?

That @Surya 1 guy is not an Indian just like @TEJAS spokesperson.

They post news and make tall claims to invite Pakistani trolls.

 

[Farhan Bohra]

Look on previous conversation between me and that Indian member, then you will understand, I dont need to spoon feed you.

Janes is good publication rather than this news on the OP. You need to improve your thinking ability when it comes to understand the context of the conversation.

You publishing figures of GDP number on AMCA thread, and justifying it? And if you believe Janes is a good publication, then I have nothing more to say and just to laugh at your ignorance.

 

[waz]

Only five nations in the world can make from scratch a turbofan capable to power and fit a jet fighter, the US, UK, France, Russia and China.
You simply cannot pledge to make your 'own' stealth fighter if you can't make the power plant i.e. the most important part of any such project.
This is why many sideline the Gripen, although a great aircraft but with a US engine, so prone to sanctions and not truly Swedish.

 

[Stranagor]

The details have shifted somewhat in the past decade, but here is where the AMCA project currently stands. As a fifth-generation fighter with “sixth-generation characteristics,” the AMCA will boast a very low radar cross-section for superior stealth performance, integration of certain AI-based systems for streamlined operation, and an advanced cockpit display with a touch screen interface. The AMCA’s avionics suite will be headlined by a large suite of advanced radars and electronic warfare systems.

And why not '7th generation personality' and '8th generation humor' -- while you are at it? Don't waste ambition.

 

[Surya 1]

And why not '7th generation personality' and '8th generation humor' -- while you are at it? Don't waste ambition.

It is from the article published in US media. BH will not hrlp.

That @Surya 1 guy is not an Indian just like @TEJAS spokesperson.

They post news and make tall claims to invite Pakistani trolls.

This is from US news articles. If some guys can not digest and trolls, it is their problem.

 

[Farhan Bohra]

Only five nations in the world can make from scratch a turbofan capable to power and fit a jet fighter, the US, UK, France, Russia and China.
You simply cannot pledge to make your 'own' stealth fighter if you can't make the power plant i.e. the most important part of any such project.
This is why many sideline the Gripen, although a great aircraft but with a US engine, so prone to sanctions and not truly Swedish.

while azm can? Strawman argument?

 

[waz]

while azm can? Strawman argument?

Of course not why do think it can? Pakistan simply does not have that level of capability. Oh yes seeing as I have Pakistani flags you’d pop it in. If you paid careful attention to detail you’d notice that I used the Gripen as an example.

 

[Black Tornado]