Adnan Sami claims he has royal Afghan lineage and his ancestor conquered Kafiristan

[H!TchHiker]

Afghans are of view that everything comes from Allah ?

Its not just views of afghans but all Muslims

and you are defending Afghans in here as if you know every single of them and they are all same according to you with only positive traits in them and none of them keep any hatred, arrogance and racism against Pakistani Muslims especially non Pahstun Pakistani and they don't bad mouth Pakistan even after spending so many years in Pakistan.

You can visit Afghanistan and conduct your survey over there and then share the opinions of afghans about Pakistan and non Pashtun Pakistani and then share your finding with us lol . You can continue taking insult and abuse from those who hate your country because they are from same ethnic group but we will give them taste of their own medicine as no sane person with self respect will like those who hate your existence and identity

everybody has its own view..for some people there ethnicity is above all other thing they will support it whether it is right or wrong does not matter..everybody has its own view..People from PKMAP, ANP and MQM belongs to this group among other quom parast parties and there followers...like we see here and there..You can easily judge there bias and Taasub pasandi whatever they post or reply is only confined to there ethnicity nothing more nothing less...Even if you talked about Mars or juipter they will bring something in it...

 

[Mian Babban]

Ya i know i had figured out khans part in his mothers name already though after i made the post, but then even his father is not a pashtoon and has khan in his name, though that could be because his grandfather had served in afghan courts so he was given Khan title. Atleast this is something I know that many muslim converts adopted name khan because khan used to be considered a muslim name

Check the 19th century record of Persia, a whole lot of Persians were using Khan surname.

 

[Ocean]

Check the 19th century record of Persia, a whole lot of Persians were using Khan surname.

I just shared what i had read.
But i did not get your point regarding persia. Can you expand upon it?

 

[waz]

Only Sami could talk about the magnificence of his Afghan roots and yet sits in India . Has been back in recent years or even ever?

 

[Mian Babban]

I just shared what i had read.
But i did not get your point regarding persia. Can you expand upon it?

My point is , Khan is not a Pashtun title by any means. It was even used excessively by Persians. The person from whom Adnan Sami is claiming descent, Ahmad Jan Khan Hindi, was a Herati and Heratis are by and large people of Persian descent. In Middle east "Hindi" is surname of people whose ancestors were from India. So Adnan Sami is not even descendant of Pashtuns to begin with yet he is calling himself Pathan on twitter. In Indo-Pak any one from Afghanistan is assumed to be "Pathan" even though Afghanistan is very multiethnic country.

 

[django]

I totally disagree with the general Pakistani view that Afghans ( i will here defend my ethnic brethren across Durand only) are namak-haram by nature. By that standards, Sher Shah (whose father was from present-day Pakhtunkhwa) and Khushal Khan Khattak (also from present-day KP) were also namak-harams. In fact all the Afghans (Pashtuns) have been called "namak-haram" in Mughal histories but the fact is their conscience and pride never allowed them to be obsequious and bootlickers of the people who had snatched power and glory from them. Afghans are of view that everything comes from Allah. Only be grateful to Allah. When you help someone, you are supposed to help them for the sake of Allah. Some people think that when they do a favor for you, they own you. Afghans don't accept being owned.


Her mother had Khan in her name because of her husband. In case you dont know, wives in Pakistan and elsewhere put the surname of their husbands after marriage. e.g Gori Khan (wife of Shahrukh Khan)


You are very related to the topic, think hard

What are you saying Babban sahib, only Afghans understand Tauheed!

 

[Ocean]

My point is , Khan is not a Pashtun title by any means. It was even used excessively by Persians. The person from whom Adnan Sami is claiming descent, Ahmad Jan Khan Hindi, was a Herati and Heratis are by and large people of Persian descent. In Middle east "Hindi" is surname of people whose ancestors were from India. So Adnan Sami is not even descendant of Pashtuns to begin with yet he is calling himself Pathan on twitter. In Indo-Pak any one from Afghanistan is assumed to be "Pathan" even though Afghanistan is very multiethnic country.

wait so you are also saying that his father is neither tajak , nor uzbek or hazara nor persian or any other ethnic group from afghanistan but rather he is someone form up, who was given khan name because he was serving in herat.
Ok but i had read that people who would convert to islam would adopt khan as surname as khan was considered a muslims name. Now could it be a wrong info. If you look at subcontinent specially up and bihar there are many khan surname people (there is said to be a small yousufzai population in bihar like dr abdul Qadeer so excluding them ) but rest neither have pushtoon descent nor persian. i mean you will find people with locals features, color, bengali features bihari features etc but with foreign surnames like khan , qureshi, hashmi, farooquis , zuberis, zaidis. etc etc. with due respect to everyones looks, i am not disparaging anyone. But this thing always confuses me.

By the way i am an islamabadi , and my information about rest of pakistan is very poor.

 

[Javad]

If Adnan Sami claims he is a Barakzai Durrani and his family were settled in Herat before they moved to Peshawar.. he might be right. Most of the important positions all over Durrani empire(incl. Herat, Kashmir etc) were held by individuals belonging to the powerful Durrani tribe's. Even today there is a sizeable pashtun population in Herat.
Secondly there was a lot of internal struggle between the different Durrani subtribes(Saddozai, Muhammadzai, Barakzai, Bamizai etc. ) to gain power..the losing part were either killed or they sought refuge in neighbouring empires. That is why you will find many Durrani's in Peshawar, Kohat, Quetta, Srinagar and even many in India.
I don't like Adnan Sami either but it is quite funny to see how we pakistanis are trying to prove him as a liar out of sheer hate.. let him claim whatever he wants to.. It is not our problem..

 

[Mian Babban]

wait so you are also saying that his father is neither tajak , nor uzbek or hazara nor persian or any other ethnic group from afghanistan but rather he is someone form up, who was given khan name because he was serving in herat.
Ok but i had read that people who would convert to islam would adopt khan as surname as khan was considered a muslims name. Now could it be a wrong info. If you look at subcontinent specially up and bihar there are many khan surname people (there is said to be a small yousufzai population in bihar like dr abdul Qadeer so excluding them ) but rest neither have pushtoon descent nor persian. i mean you will find people with locals features, color, bengali features bihari features etc but with foreign surnames like khan , qureshi, hashmi, farooquis , zuberis, zaidis. etc etc. with due respect to everyones looks, i am not disparaging anyone. But this thing always confuses me.

By the way i am an islamabadi , and my information about rest of pakistan is very poor.

Khan is not a title of every Muslim or of a particular ethnicity. In Indian context, it was title of the nobility during Delhi sultanate and Mughal periods.

 

[Kabira]

His great gradfather was 1st cousin of Afghan king Amanullah Khan. Why his royal family moved to Peshawar? And now he is drinking spit of hindutvas to remain in India by trying to prove he is actually afghani It's all right we just need to remind him to own up his grandmother as well-

https://twitter.com/x/status/880318028616880128

https://twitter.com/x/status/881016190885183488

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Adnan is looking forward to acting in the film which is very different from shooting music videos. He will be living a character that he can empathize with well owing to his Afghan roots. The character has been inspired from the stories of his forefathers. “We belong to the royal family of King Amanullah and still have palaces in Herat, Afghanistan. My great grandfather conquered Kafirastan and renamed it Nuristan. My grandfather was a provincial governor. After my father’s death, I’m the family patriarch now. I’ve never spoken about that part of my life because I didn’t want my family to open any doors for me but carve a niche on my own. Since I took a path no one had tread, they didn’t know which doors to open anyway.”
https://bollyspice.com/singer-adnan-sami-making-acting-debut-with-musical-adventure-afghan/

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For a film , he has fabricated his lineage. He is claiming royal linage from Barakzai dynasty but the person he is mentioning to be his great grandfather is Ahmad Jan whose full name was "Hakim Ahmad Jan Khan Hindi" , obviously he was man of Indian descent.

I knew it!!!!!..............so adnan sami is descended from the same community of whom millions are risking life and limb to enter Pakistan and are also envious & resentful of our nation. Explains the betrayal and "Namak Harami" nature.

adnan sami's true origin can probably be traced 100 years ago to an incident in a Kabul brothel involving a Hindu dalit.

 

[Ocean]

Khan is not a title of every Muslim or of a particular ethnicity. In Indian context, it was title of the nobility during Delhi sultanate and Mughal periods.

So the vast population from central india who have khan titles were all rank holders in sultanate darbars and mughal era? Anyways, i need to research that more.

If Adnan Sami claims he is a Barakzai Durrani and his family were settled in Herat before they moved to Peshawar.. he might be right. Most of the important positions all over Durrani empire(incl. Herat, Kashmir etc) were held by individuals belonging to the powerful Durrani tribe's. Even today there is a sizeable pashtun population in Herat.
Secondly there was a lot of internal struggle between the different Durrani subtribes(Saddozai, Muhammadzai, Barakzai, Bamizai etc. ) to gain power..the losing part were either killed or they sought refuge in neighbouring empires. That is why you will find many Durrani's in Peshawar, Kohat, Quetta, Srinagar and even many in India.
I don't like Adnan Sami either but it is quite funny to see how we pakistanis are trying to prove him as a liar out of sheer hate.. let him claim whatever he wants to.. It is not our problem..

You do not like this thread you can IGNORE it. We will discuss every bit of info about adnan sami and shred it apart and bash him as he deserve that for his constant hate-spewing on us. And anyone WHO FAKES his lineage DESERVES to be called out.

 

[Kabira]

What are you saying Babban sahib, only Afghans understand Tauheed!

Allah give everything is muslim belief not unique to afghanis, like when someone have to many kids he will say allah will provide them. That doesn't mean you can be ungrateful lol I wonder what Islam say about ungrateful people. Said this I have watched videos of afghani refugees IN Pakistan. They always thanked Pakistani people for hosting them and they were happy in Pakistan. They never said this is allah's land and we have right to stay. Very different then what we see on social media. Just youtube afghan refugees in Pakistan, Islamabad etc

State relations are not good for obvious reasons and in reality this Sami Ghenda is real ungrateful type. He is trying very hard on social media to please afghanis and indians. Even some afghanis on twitter now question his Afghan royal lineage who had to move to Peshawar and now have Indian passport, dhobi ka kutta. lol He will be treated like dog by nationalist afghanis when they find out his lies.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I am not asking you to love them. Afghan hates you because of nationalism and you hate them also because of nationalism. Your loyal/patriot is his namak-haram/traitor and his loyal/patriot is your namak-haram/traitor. Things are not in black and white, and right and wrong here is relative to the convictions of Pakistanis and Afghans

You are not getting it. yea political narrative in Afghanistan can hardly be described as Pakistan-friendly and this actually impacts the views of the Afghans to blame Pakistan for all ills in their society. My problem with Afghans is not because of nationalism or because of their ethnicity. My views about Afghans have changed drastically in the past few years after having interaction with them and knowing their thought process, arrogance and racism. It has less to do with politics between two countries. This sort of arrogance and bad mouthing I did not even heard from Indians even when boht countries are enemy at state level. . Afghans are free to hate us by staying in their own country but when they will bad mouth Pakistan after staying and living in Pakistan and after causing all sort of havoc in our social structure then surely they will be called as nimak haram, ungrateful, traitors etc

everybody has its own view..for some people there ethnicity is above all other thing they will support it whether it is right or wrong does not matter..everybody has its own view..People from PKMAP, ANP and MQM belongs to this group among other quom parast parties and there followers...like we see here and there..You can easily judge there bias and Taasub pasandi whatever they post or reply is only confined to there ethnicity nothing more nothing less...Even if you talked about Mars or juipter they will bring something in it...

If I had some power then I would have deported all such people who are obsessed with their ethnicity and place it before country . They should have no right of having Pakistani ID card and nationality when they don't value national identity and don't care about national interests

 

[Mian Babban]

You are not getting it. yea political narrative in Afghanistan can hardly be described as Pakistan-friendly and this actually impacts the views of the Afghans to blame Pakistan for all ills in their society. My problem with Afghans is not because of nationalism or because of their ethnicity. My views about Afghans have changed drastically in the past few years after having interaction with them and knowing their thought process, arrogance and racism. It has less to do with politics between two countries. This sort of arrogance and bad mouthing I did not even heard from Indians even when boht countries are enemy at state level. Afghans are free to hate us by staying in their own country but when they will bad mouth Pakistan after staying and living in Pakistan and after causing all sort of havoc in our social structure then surely they will be called as nimak haram, ungrateful, traitors etc


If I had some power then I would have deported all such people who are obsessed with their ethnicity and place it before country . They should have no right of having Pakistani ID card and nationality when they don't value national identity and don't care about national interests

When two nations or communities are not at good terms with each other they often say bad things against each other. For example Hindustani Mohajirs and Pashtuns often say bad things against each other including racist stuff, and it stemmed from politics in Karachi. If they are calling you **** and dhalkhor, you are calling them Bachabaz and namak-haram. Hen first or egg first is irrelevant

Afghans and Hindi Muslims had in fact best relations out of all before 1947

Now listen to this buffoon, thats the real racism

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