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Acting Brotherhood General Guide's Arrest a Major Blow to the Group [Egypt]

Is that what it means or is that what you want it to mean?

It was a sincere question because I have never seen, may be you have posted but I have not seen, your posts that are sympathetic to PLO.

Hamas has always wanted to be represented within the PLO and to give up governance of Gaza.

That's good.

Abbas faction of PA wants the military factions to disarm and Hamas/IJ refuse to do so.

Other than disarming are there any other conditions, like say behavior of Hamas and IJ with the common people ?

While other elements of PLO/PA are fine with the armed factions playing a role within the national consensus.

How many elements of PLO / PA are not fine ? Because by a web search I see that at least PFLP supports the Syrian government while Hamas as far as I know doesn't.
 
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You are showing you are naive, MB of Egypt chose non-violent approach in response to Sisi's onslaught against their supporters. If they chose to change that your Sisi is going to disappoint you and flee Egypt.
Quite an imagination you’ve got... they can ALWAYS try to change that, but no more tissue should they use afterwards. They know well why the Rabaa Massacre happened and they are more than sure how many and how much many Egyptians support Sisi.
As for Hamas, only in your delusional dreams would they allow a situation like the I mentioned in previous posts. We'll drag Egypt into war with Israel and end something called Al Sisi and anyone who serves Israel before his own country.
How many Egyptians share your view? You’ve been to Egypt so share it with us. I don’t find him ‘serving’ anyone but his country first and foremost and either way you’re locked in the same mind circulation w/ many others like MB members and nearly anyone who opposes Egypt nowadays. مع اخواتك
 
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Egyptians like other Arabs are dumb

After decades of dictatorship and military rule they finally get a revolution and a democratically elected government

The region mainly useless GCC, plot against the new Government alongside Egyptian military and secular elite


They instigate a coup with Copts at the centre within a year of the new government taking power



Rather then waiting for elections, they murder their own citizens, wipe out any democratic opposition


Place a new military dictatorship in power and all the old subservience to USA, GCC, Jews etc




Useless, useless people are these Arabs (and I'm.a Sunni Muslim)
 
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After decades of dictatorship and military rule they finally get a revolution and a democratically elected government

And that "democratically elected government" brought in this Taliban-style element called Maria "Islamic" TV which was run by women for women and how did that look like in operation ?

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@ARCH٤R, what became of this TV station ?
 
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Egyptians like other Arabs are dumb

After decades of dictatorship and military rule they finally get a revolution and a democratically elected government

The region mainly useless GCC, plot against the new Government alongside Egyptian military and secular elite


They instigate a coup with Copts at the centre within a year of the new government taking power



Rather then waiting for elections, they murder their own citizens, wipe out any democratic opposition


Place a new military dictatorship in power and all the old subservience to USA, GCC, Jews etc




Useless, useless people are these Arabs (and I'm.a Sunni Muslim)
Ikhwans weren’t democratic nor were they welcomed by the majority of Egyptians anymore, people lived close to Rabaa and they knew how ‘innocent’ the MB was, should you hear about melee weapons, small arms and people getting shot at, having blocked entrance to the square and were left with AKs and other arms in the hands of violent protesters and the majority also view their Islamisation ‘Pathetic’. (And I’m an Egyptian).
Go on and look at what the pro MB protesters did, shooting at us on the bridges.
Who chose Sisi and saw him a revolutionist in the first place?
-Is it a coup? Yes.
=Was it bad for Egypt? No.
No MB, no effort to merge religion & intentions w/ the politics.
That’s your opinion and here is mine:
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And that "democratically elected government" brought in this Taliban-style element called Maria "Islamic" TV which was run by women for women and how did that look like in operation ?

Maria+Islamic+TV+Egypt.jpg


Mideast_Egypt_Maria_Channel_0fbf3.jpg


120730063719-egypt-veiled-tv-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg


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@ARCH٤R, what became of this TV station ?
I’m not familiar with such channels but I recall jokes at such after 2013. I believe it stopped but I’m sure another would show up anyways (and somewhere else)...
 
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And that "democratically elected government" brought in this Taliban-style element called Maria "Islamic" TV which was run by women for women and how did that look like in operation ?

Maria+Islamic+TV+Egypt.jpg


Mideast_Egypt_Maria_Channel_0fbf3.jpg


120730063719-egypt-veiled-tv-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg


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@ARCH٤R, what became of this TV station ?


Yeah,, and
 
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Ikhwans weren’t democratic nor were they welcomed by the majority of Egyptians anymore, people lived close to Rabaa and they knew how ‘innocent’ the MB was, should you hear about melee weapons, small arms and people getting shot at, having blocked entrance to the square and were left with AKs and other arms in the hands of violent protesters and the majority also view their Islamisation ‘Pathetic’. (And I’m an Egyptian).
Go on and look at what the pro MB protesters did, shooting at us on the bridges.
Who chose Sisi and saw him a revolutionist in the first place?
-Is it a coup? Yes.
=Was it bad for Egypt? No.
No MB, no effort to merge religion & intentions w/ the politics.
That’s your opinion and here is mine:
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So you geniuses after decades of brutal military rule plotted to overthrow the first democratically elected government in Egypt and reimpose military dictatorship that bowed to the US, GCC and the Jews after ONLY one year?????

Now you know why Egyptians blame the Copts, you took democracy from them and reimposed military dictatorship



MB was elected, the military and deep state hated them
Egyptians after a few years could have voted for a alternative party

But rather then the people have the right to choosh you geniuses reimpose MILITARY DICTATORSHIP



That is retarded beyond belief and Copts take much of the blame
 
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Says who?????? The first democratic elections they had they voted for MB

From what I understand, the progressive among the Egyptians accepted the removal of the West-supported MB and Morsi from governance.

Egyptian members like @Mahmoud_EGY and @ARCH٤R can speak in detail.

And you overestimate the legitimacy of the so-called Democracy system. In India the BJP was elected twice through "democratic" vote. In USA every four years the people vote one of two "democratic" parties which do not solve local problems like homelessness but go around waging war around the world.
 
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From what I understand, the progressive among the Egyptians accepted the removal of the West-supported MB and Morsi from governance.

Egyptian members like @Mahmoud_EGY and @ARCH٤R can speak in detail.

An elected government was replaced by the SAME OLD military dictatorship that ruled Egypt for decades

Surely your brain can comprehend this


Now Egyptians again have no choice or democratic elections, the opposition is in jail
 
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Surely your brain can comprehend this

Don't be impertinent.

An elected government was replaced by the SAME OLD military dictatorship that ruled Egypt for decades
Now Egyptians again have no choice or democratic elections, the opposition is in jail

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And you overestimate the legitimacy of the so-called Democracy system. In India the BJP was elected twice through "democratic" vote. In USA every four years the people vote one of two "democratic" parties which do not solve local problems like homelessness but go around waging war around the world.
If I can mention Venezuela here, Maduro governs through the legacy of Hugo Chavez who became president through elections. If you support MB / Morsi because they were once "democratically" elected, and do that for India and USA, you should do that also for Venezuela and for the ideology of Chavez which would stand against the MB / Morsi way of looking at the world.
 
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So you geniuses after decades of brutal military rule plotted to overthrow the first democratically elected government in Egypt and reimpose military dictatorship that bowed to the US, GCC and the Jews after ONLY one year?????

Now you know why Egyptians blame the Copts, you took democracy from them and reimposed military dictatorship



MB was elected, the military and deep state hated them
Egyptians after a few years could have voted for a alternative party

But rather then the people have the right to choosh you geniuses reimpose MILITARY DICTATORSHIP



That is retarded beyond belief and Copts take much of the blame
The Military rule wasn’t as brutal as you think, nor was a dictatorship spared when the MB came... they were socializing with other forces in the region, planning to go here and there but what about what the people wanted? Power cuts were hours long and they didn’t bother negotiating for any energy deals. Choosing ministers and government officials based on their loyalty to the MB and not attributes, yet I remember 2 weird things that happened:
- An MB member on TV suggesting that we use Proxies against Ethiopia.
- The president asking the public to save in energy saying ‘Instead of using ten lamps use less.’
= Well then instead of caring about certain groups in the region why not go first and make a deal with a country to supply electricity? KSA was there but ha!! They aren’t on the same frequency.
The security forces collaborated with criminals while robbing houses, and their government wasn’t willing to pay for churches that were burned and robbed because of their control of the security forces and you ask why did the military intervene?
They intervened because it was the last the MB didn’t control, the last thing left of secularism in the country. The MB agreed to send troops to Syria to fight by the side of the US, Sisi now has rejected. So tell me: How is Sisi or nowadays Egypt submissive to the US or Zionists? How is it that Egypt fulfills what certain parties want? It’s the US who fulfills what the GCC or others who have money want, with them the republicans would lack support for campaigns and so on... How is it that Bernie Sanders isn’t the Democratic nominee despite being the most popular? Because it’s the money of the people who supports the Democrats who decide.
USA every four years the people vote one of two "democratic" parties which do not solve local problems like homelessness but go around waging war around the world.
I’ve just answered your question, because they simply are runned by the people who fund them, not vice versa.
Now you know why Egyptians blame the Copts, you took democracy from them and reimposed military dictatorship
Now you know why we took the side of the Military Elites and Secularists instantly. I have to put down the truth: Most of the Sisi supporters aren’t Copts.
And for sure: we were blessed with MB members in Rabaa screaming in the microphones and saying :’Hankhaleeha dam’ ‘We’ll make it bloody’.
Or: ‘What happens in the Sinai (terror attacks) is a reply for the Sisi’s coup and it’ll stop when Sisi backs down from his actions’
They can give you more freedom of speech when it comes to the government decisions but surely not when it’s about their relations with X,Y,Z and their decisions when it comes to giving someone that certain position because it was what they wanted, you could ask witnesses who lived by their protesting areas on how innocent they were, after all why would you stand by someone who holds a weapon without a license and you expect security measures to not be applied towards this? If they weren’t to die that day then they would have surely died another day because of their idiocy and violence.
That is why the MB was identified as a terrorist organization later on, but like what many say: Under pressure from the Military.
Don’t expect the MB to be objectively protected by the US, the US has seen the difference between 2012 and 2015, and now they see the difference between 2012 and 2020.
 
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