Achakzai seeks new Afghania province from Afghan border to Attock, Mianwali

[H!TchHiker]

Going by Durand line agreement, Nuristan province of Afghanistan belongs to Pakistan, it was annexed by Afghans illegally. I suggest Achakzai demand its return. Its a nice piece of real estate.




@Braith Tell us what India thinks about all this because I know you care a lot about what India thinks (Source).

To begins with Afghan is a Persian word so no Pashtun should be proud of this label unless you're a citizen of Afghanistan, in which case you have no choice. Hence, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (Keyword: Pakhtun-khwa), is a much better representation of our true identity than some Persian imported word. From a historical point of view, Achakzai, and you, are wrong.

For those interested in my debate with @Braith on this matter, please refer to this thread.

LOL don't provoke him what if he come here with the thread of Armchair politician or Kala-Angrez ...and what not..Let him be in his filtered mode..

 

[PakGuns]

These so called Politicians be it Nawaz, Zardari, Achakzai, Maulana Fazal, should have basic common sense that Building Infrastructure won't finish Poverty, its Education, Enlighten the Populous, Declaring Education Emergency, Look at the Literacy rate of Srilanka its around 98% even when They were being attacked by Tamil Tigers, their Children never stopped going to school...
Have seen this from my own eyes...

WE have so many sane minds...wow.. I salute you sir...

 

[jupiter2007]

Here is the suggestion from someone.

http://www.qissa-khwani.com/2013/09/new-provinces-for-new-pakistan.html

 

[Jzaib]

All anti state actors are supporting PMLN

 

[jupiter2007]

Max mian,

handover Hazara division to Punjab

I had suggested as much in a recent post.

Regards

NO, Pakistani Punjab province should be split into at least 6 smaller provinces.

Hazara Potohar province might be a better option.

Creating a province for the refugees ?
Does this happens in other world ? Or in history?

Not for refugees but for the betterment of country.

 

[Spring Onion]

from Afghan border to Attock? so where KPK will go?

 

[FlyingAce]

Its all about the Status Quo, These Political Elite has been Exposed Pants down be it in Corruption, Lieing, Supporting Anti State Actors or Compromising NATIONAL SECURITY!
People of Pakistan should come out in Force irrespective of any political party affiliation & demand a New System that is made for the People & by the People for Populous Welfare, as Pakistan was to be a Social Welfare State for everyone irrespective of their Religious Believes...

 

[Braith]

Going by Durand line agreement, Nuristan province of Afghanistan belongs to Pakistan, it was annexed by Afghans illegally. I suggest Achakzai demand its return. Its a nice piece of real estate.




@Braith Tell us what India thinks about all this because I know you care a lot about what India thinks (Source).

To begins with Afghan is a Persian word so no Pashtun should be proud of this label unless you're a citizen of Afghanistan, in which case you have no choice. Hence, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (Keyword: Pakhtun-khwa), is a much better representation of our true identity than some Persian imported word. From a historical point of view, Achakzai, and you, are wrong.

For those interested in my debate with @Braith on this matter, please refer to this thread.

Afghan is not a Persian word, the original word is Awghan and its a native word. In the old texts of India the word has been written as "Avagana ", which proves that its not a term coined in Iran/Persia. Hsuen Tsang, in 629 A.D, refers to the Afghans north-east of Ghazni in its chinese form " O-Po-Kien" and he was a traveler from China not Iran.....

Also Iranians and Tajiks are our cousins. Pashto is descendant of Avestan language and thats why it shares vocabulary with Dari.....so if you are calling yourself a Pashtun then you can not have disdain for Farsi and other Indo-Iranian languages.....

Here is comparison of few words in Avestan and Pashto

Word:Mountain

Avestan:Ghairi

Pashto: Ghar


Word:Horse

Avestan:Aspa


Pashto: Aas (Aspa is also used)


Word : Dog

Avestan:Span

Pashto:Spay

 

[H!TchHiker]

from Afghan border to Attock? so where KPK will go?

Greater KP ....No he is saying create this province for people from afghanistan..or lar aw bar KP ?
Look at the edge of boundaries. He is mentally in medieval age.

 

[Khanate]

Afghan is not a Persian word, the original word is Awghan and its a native word. In the old texts of India the word has been written as "Avagana ", which proves that its not a term coined in Iran/Persia. Hsuen Tsang, in 629 A.D, refers to the Afghans north-east of Ghazni in its chinese form " O-Po-Kien" and he was a traveler from China not Iran.....

Also Iranians and Tajiks are our cousins. Pashto is descendant of Avestan language and thats why it shares vocabulary with Dari.....so if you are calling yourself a Pashtun then you can not have disdain for Farsi and other Indo-Iranian languages.....

Here is comparison of few words in Avestan and Pashto

Word:Mountain

Avestan:Ghairi

Pashto: Ghar


Word:Horse

Avestan:Aspa


Pashto: Aas (Aspa is also used)


Word : Dog

Avestan:Span

Pashto:Spay

Patently false.

The word Afghan has its roots in Persian.

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The earliest mention of the name Afġān (Abgân) is by Shapur I of the Sassanid Empire during the 3rd century CE. From a more limited, ethnological point of view, “Afḡān” is the term by which the Persian-speakers of Afghanistan (and the non-Paṧtō-speaking ethnic groups generally) designate the Paṧtūn

Source: Encyclopædia Iranica

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In essence, if you are calling yourself Afghan, rather than Pakhtun, then it is no different than the word Indian, an English word that British imposed on the people of subcontinent and people across the border still wear this badge of shame as a colonial hangover. Similarly, some African Americans refer to each other as nigga which is driven from a derogatory word which their European slave masters imposed on them. What you're arguing for is that people continue to internalise identities imposed on them by foreigners, i.e., Indian, Nigga, Afghan, etc. You are promoting cultural imperialism.

Also Iranians and Tajiks are our cousins. Pashto is descendant of Avestan language and thats why it shares vocabulary with Dari.....so if you are calling yourself a Pashtun then you can not have disdain for Farsi and other Indo-Iranian languages.....

And the same people have demanded that the name of Afghanistan be changed to Khorasan.

 

[Well.wisher]

NO, Pakistani Punjab province should be split into at least 6 smaller provinces.

Hazara Potohar province might be a better option.

Not for refugees but for the betterment of country.

Well I don't have any problem giving them a place in our country , those who are not corrupt should be given pakistan citizenship . but I think we don't have much resources .
The better option is giving them jobs in army .

 

[Spring Onion]

Greater KP ....No he is saying create this province for people from afghanistan..or lar aw bar KP ?
Look at the edge of boundaries. He is mentally in medieval age.

There is no lar aw bar simple as that. There are Pakistani Pukhtoons and Afghanistani Pashtoons. In between are only commies (few left in Pakistan in shape of Afrasiyab and co), and those who run away to Australia, Germany, UK Canada etc etc when Afghanistan was and is facing troubled time hence this lar aw bar shit is just their figment of imagination.

Achakzai does not qualify to represent Pukhtoons, Pashtoons since he did not do anything for protection of Pashtoons In Balochistan against barbarism of BLA terrorists. The BLA terrorists are successfully on spree of Pashtoon genocide in Balochistan to change the demography. There is a ethnic cleansing of Pashtoon in Balochistan by BLA terrorists. Achkazai also failed to speak against it as well as failed to work for uplift of Pashtoons there.

He is not known to KPK Pukhtoons.

As far as Afghan refugees are concerned according to international law and law of the land those who are here for more than 30 or 30 years as entitled to citizenship but you cannot give them a province. This is stupidest idea which can be destructive.

 

[RealNapster]

Achakzai, the Altaf Hussain of KPK.

The Altaf Husain of Balochistan Actually.

 

[Braith]

The earliest mention of the name Afġān (Abgân) is by Shapur I of the Sassanid Empire during the 3rd century CE. From a more limited, ethnological point of view, “Afḡān” is the term by which the Persian-speakers of Afghanistan (and the non-Paṧtō-speaking ethnic groups generally) designate the Paṧtūn

Source: Encyclopædia Iranica

Mention of Abgan name in Sassanian inscription is a fact, but the rest is not established fact, just opinion of Iranica. Afghans have served in the courts of various Iranian dynasties or have been under the rule of Iranian dynasties so it should not be surprising that Afghan is getting mentioned in one of the Sassanian inscription.

Afghan is not alien word like Pathan, its part of our language , literature and history

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Send his backside to Kabul just as how traitor MQM should be sent to India.