Abu Jundal: It’s not Pakistan that is in denial, it’s us

[khail007]

I absolutely agree. We should just treat Pakistan for what it is - an enemy state that deserves to be fought in every sphere and ensure its absolute breakup till it can no longer be a threat.

That's what US did to USSR, and that's what we need to do to Pakistan. Drag them in to a consistent state of war preparedness, make them overspend on military and collapse due to economic implosion.

World will not be an observer at that point. They will step in to ensure the Nukes don't fall in to wrong hands. They'll do it by creating 3-4 separate nations out of Pakistan, clean up the nukes. worst case scenario, let the nukes be part of one of the new nations created (perhaps Punjab).

We need to impress upon the Americans not to keep funding the war machine of Pakistan. Without their Aid/Trade & international support, Pakistan will be reduced to a Chinese vassal like North korea for a couple of decades, and then it'll collapse.

Was there any moment after 1947 when India treated Pakistan as friendly? So do we; after the fall of the Dacca, more than that what else you can do?

Don't you think, that in case, if Pakistan able to settle that account, it would not be any injustice towards India.

Mate, upto today we are enemies and enemies are to fight. No one knows, what will be the tommorrow's scenario.

Last part of your outburst is only the dreams, so I pray for your happy dreams.

 

[deciphercide]

Forget last decade, they've probably written more hateful articles in a week than Pakistan has in 40 years.

Not true. Yes,India has a responsibility to safeguard her own interests but she has been prominently missing from the free-for-all bashing session that the western media has been indulging in with Pakistan in the past. We can beat your face in given the current situation,we simply choose not to.

 

[ares]

Was there any moment after 1947 when India treated Pakistan as friendly? So do we; after the fall of the Dacca, more than that what else you can do?

Don't you think, that in case, if Pakistan able to settle that account, it would not be any injustice towards India.

Mate, upto today we are enemies and enemies are to fight. No one knows, what will be the tommorrow's scenario.

Well if you knew our history ..you would not be saying so ..India and Pakistan were not enemies up until 1965 infact India-Pak shared very healthy relation untill 65..there were periodic defense and social exchanges..even though ..we had boundary disputes in Kashmir and Rann of Kutch sector...we signed..one of the land mark water sharing treaties of last century.

Had Indians thought ..relations with Pakistan would deteriorate so soon and too such levels..we would never signed the treaty, literally handing you the claim on 70% of water entering the Indus river system.

Things changed after your action in 1965 ..which turned us into sworn enemies and incidentally paved the way for Dacca.

 

[timetravel]

Well if new our history ..you would not be saying so ..India and Pakistan were not enemies up until 1965 infact India-Pak shared very healthy relation untill 65..there were periodic defense and social exchanges..even though ..we had boundary disputes in Kashmir and Rann of Kutch sector...we signed..one of the land mark water sharing treaties of last century.

Had Indians thought ..relations with Pakistan would deteriorate so soon and too such levels..we would never signed the treaty, literally handing you the claim on 70% of water entering the Indus river system.

Things changed after your action in 1965 ..which turned us into sworn enemies and incidentally paved the way for Dacca.

why they(Pakistan) did so in 1965 if relations were overall good beween India and Pakistan till then?

and why did the two countries not accept LOC as actual IB from 1947 to 1965 when both were having good relations overall?

If relations were good, then why to fight over Kashmir and why not just be happy with with u have keeping in mind the good relations and solve the issue for once n all by converting LOC to IB. To think if they had done so, then from 1950/60 to till now there could have been so much development on both sides. and also trade b/w the two countries could have been 200 times what is at present. and possibly also open borders b/w the two countries by now.

and also if that had happened then, US wont be able to harm Pakistan or interfere in its affairs like now.. and no Chinese dare to enter Kashmir or hinder Indian growth through Pakistan.

 

[Dance]

Not true. Yes,India has a responsibility to safeguard her own interests but she has been prominently missing from the free-for-all bashing session that the western media has been indulging in with Pakistan in the past. We can beat your face in given the current situation,we simply choose not to.

I meant that in the context of the Pakistani media vs the indian one.

You'll find more hateful articles, news broadcasts, etc coming out of india (including your main channels) then you will out of Pakistan.

 

[Bhairava]

les, news broadcasts, etc coming out of india (including your main channels) then you will out of Pakistan.

That's because genius you find only Pakistanis going on a rampage shooting 166 innocents in India...not 10 Indians going on a murderous rampage in Karachi.

So obviously you will find more articles criticising Pakistan for its complicity in cross border terrorism from India.

 

[ares]

]why they did so in 1965[/B] if relations were overall good beween India and Pakistan till then?

and why did the two countries not accept LOC as actual IB from 1947 to 1965 when both were having good relations overall?

1)GREED for more land.
2) Newly acquired self confidence..that they could best India in a limited armed conflict Kashmir and Kutch ..based on their assessment of Sino-Indian war of 1962.
3) Confidence acquired from spanking new and Modern weaponry received from Americans(free gift for becoming US minions agaist the REDs, joining SEATO, CENTO)

 

[deciphercide]

I meant that in the context of the Pakistani media vs the indian one.

You'll find more hateful articles, news broadcasts, etc coming out of india (including your main channels) then you will out of Pakistan.

Untrue. India can string you up whenever she chooses to. Take the Saudi-Iran conflict of ideologies(?) for example... Saudi Arabia hasn't missed a single step from strangling Iran with oil exports,even going to the extent of being a benefactor for all,all in the eventual plan to leave Iran up a sh*t creek.

For what it's worth, India has refrained from targeting Pakistan,be it at an international forum or pressuring the United States to act against you.

We don't bow our ties and shine our shoes for anyone else!!!

 

[Dance]

That's because genius you find only Pakistanis going on a rampage shooting 166 innocents in India...not 10 Indians going on a murderous rampage in Karachi.

So obviously you will find more articles criticising Pakistan for its complicity in cross border terrorism from India.

Like I said earlier, its more like someone is too obsessed with Pakistan:
These are example of the excellent journalism that comes from your country when it comes to Pakistan :

Indianexpress.com : comments : Pak 'spy' pigeon caught on border, police suspect ISI hand

US team`s visit to Gilgit-Baltistan unnerves Pak

US designates Afghanistan as major non-Nato ally and hits Pak with drone strikes - The Times of India

'ISI officer the brain behind fake currency' - Hindustan Times

US team`s visit to Gilgit-Baltistan unnerves Pak

And none of this has do with 26/11. Such a professional media

 

[timetravel]

1)GREED for more land.
2) Newly acquired self confidence..that they could best India in a limited armed conflict Kashmir and Kutch ..based on their assessment of Sino-Indian war of 1962.
3) Confidence acquired from spanking new and Modern weaponry received from Americans(free gift for becoming US minions agaist the REDs, joining SEATO, CENTO)

thats pretty bad move by the ones in power in Pakistan... on one hand offfering to fight hand in hand in 62, and attacking India after just 3 years of that time... someone messed up real bad Pakistan policy...

India and Pakistan were like estranged brothers after 47, but even if separate u dont attack ur brother.

if Jinnah was there I am sure he would not have tolerated or allowed attack on India in 65 or ever for some Kashmir or some other land or for anything else.

 

[Bhairava]

Like I said earlier, its more like someone is too obsessed with Pakistan:
These are example of the excellent journalism that comes from your country when it comes to Pakistan :

Indianexpress.com : comments : Pak 'spy' pigeon caught on border, police suspect ISI hand


US team`s visit to Gilgit-Baltistan unnerves Pak

US designates Afghanistan as major non-Nato ally and hits Pak with drone strikes - The Times of India

'ISI officer the brain behind fake currency' - Hindustan Times

US team`s visit to Gilgit-Baltistan unnerves Pak

And none of this has do with 26/11. Such a professional media

What about the terrorist who was found uncastrated in FATA ? Is he an Indian ?

The basic point is once you have experienced the cross border terrorism from a neighboring country for close to 3 decades then you obviously have a very skeptical media.

 

[Icewolf]

I absolutely agree. We should just treat Pakistan for what it is - an enemy state that deserves to be fought in every sphere and ensure its absolute breakup till it can no longer be a threat.

That's what US did to USSR, and that's what we need to do to Pakistan. Drag them in to a consistent state of war preparedness, make them overspend on military and collapse due to economic implosion.

World will not be an observer at that point. They will step in to ensure the Nukes don't fall in to wrong hands. They'll do it by creating 3-4 separate nations out of Pakistan, clean up the nukes. worst case scenario, let the nukes be part of one of the new nations created (perhaps Punjab).

We need to impress upon the Americans not to keep funding the war machine of Pakistan. Without their Aid/Trade & international support, Pakistan will be reduced to a Chinese vassal like North korea for a couple of decades, and then it'll collapse.

You're in RAW??

 

[KingMamba]

Not true. Yes,India has a responsibility to safeguard her own interests but she has been prominently missing from the free-for-all bashing session that the western media has been indulging in with Pakistan in the past. We can beat your face in given the current situation,we simply choose not to.

Who is we exactly???

 

[KingMamba]

thats pretty bad move by the ones in power in Pakistan... on one hand offfering to fight hand in hand in 62, and attacking India after just 3 years of that time... someone messed up real bad Pakistan policy...

India and Pakistan were like estranged brothers after 47, but even if separate u dont attack ur brother.

if Jinnah was there I am sure he would not have tolerated or allowed attack on India in 65 or ever for some Kashmir or some other land or for anything else.

Ayub Khan never wanted to attack India. It was hawks like Z.A Bhutto who forced him into it and the most ironic thing is that after the war they forced him to step down.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

india continues to milk on 26/11 drama and it's my basic belief they'll continue to do so....empty rhetoric, "dossiers" of literature and hypothetical unsubstantiated prose; media statements and taking heresy as "evidence"

so it's them who are in constant denial....if they have a problem with our court rulings, its not at all our problem



same way they want to keep "qasab" alive for as long as is possible, they'll try to keep 26/11 drama alive as well.....

"milking" on the issue and nothing else....we know also india's credibility when it comes to blind accusations


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